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Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 26, 2021 3:57 PM GMT
To explain what's going on here, there were 689 deaths involving COVID-19 of people who were fully vaccinated between 6 August and 3 September 2021, according to PHE Technical briefings 20 and 22. Which is more deaths among the vaccinated in four weeks over August than the whole first 6 months of this year! Yet the ONS has added those first 6 months to get the result they wanted.
Report duncan idaho November 26, 2021 3:57 PM GMT
US data also wrong?


Unvaccinated people in the US are at a 14 times greater risk of dying from covid-19 than those who are fully vaccinated against coronavirus, according to data from September published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 26, 2021 3:59 PM GMT
This has all been covered on UK Column News where they explain everything.....even the simplest of simpletons might have a chanceHappy
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 26, 2021 4:03 PM GMT
Even the ONS report itself states half-way through:  “the ASMRs [age-standardized mortality rates] do not show causal links between vaccines and risk of mortality”.

But who's going to read half the report to see that?
Report duncan idaho November 26, 2021 4:04 PM GMT
fair enough, screaming...that ONS report does sound flawed to some extent statistically
Report duncan idaho November 26, 2021 4:06 PM GMT
as a retard and simpleton, i'll leave the rabbitholes to you enlightened individuals and wish you well
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 26, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
I appreciate that, duncan. Genuinely.
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 26, 2021 4:16 PM GMT
Duncan, no one has called you a retard or simpleton. I was actually referring to myself as I am not educated to a high degree and require things explained to me in a simple format. Just saying UK Column News explain it all really simply even i get what is going on in this crazy world.
Report duncan idaho November 26, 2021 4:27 PM GMT
ok, DB...fairly sure xaar did tho..no matter
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 26, 2021 4:31 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh2Sj_QpZOA

Anyone seen this? Duncan, i appreciate the reply. We should all be working together to get the truth about what is going on but the divide in society is alarming. Ive even had problems within my own family with this and it is slowly destroying us all.Sad
Report duncan idaho November 26, 2021 4:31 PM GMT
Overall, we rate the UK Column a strong right-wing biased conspiracy website that frequently promotes false or misleading information.


not for me..cheers
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 26, 2021 4:33 PM GMT
Just out of interest where did you get that information from?
Report DancingBraveTheBest November 26, 2021 4:39 PM GMT
https://www.ukcolumn.org/about-uk-column
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 26, 2021 4:41 PM GMT
The Office for Statistics Regulation has now complained to the Office of National Statistics about that headline!

The headline in the publication is the age adjusted risk of deaths involving COVID-19 for vaccinated and unvaccinated groups for the period 2 January to 24 September. This was also the key message in the main tweet associated with the publication. Focusing on the headline figure has been unhelpful and has undermined the more helpful analysis provided later in the report.

...

The data cover a period when very few people had two doses of vaccination, to a period when the majority of the adult population had two doses (data taken from gov.uk on 24 November 2021 show second dose uptake for age 12 and over in England was 0.8% on 10 January 2021 and 77.4% by 24 September 2021). It also covers a period when case rates varied significantly as well as the levels of natural immunity in the population.

...

Given the analysis carried out, more should have been done to highlight the uncertainty associated with the headline figure. The publication itself did go some way towards putting the headline figure in context, but this was not the case in the more condensed description in the tweet.

https://osr.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/correspondence/ed-humpherson-to-emma-...
Report EastLower Gooner November 26, 2021 4:59 PM GMT
Super Covid in Belgium…guess it’s already in the UK but just a case of no one being tested for it as yet.

People going to end up with more jabs than a Pacquio fight with all the boosters they’ll end up being forced to take.
Report JetLoneStar November 26, 2021 5:45 PM GMT
The flock will be wandering around like Hellraiser.
Report EastLower Gooner November 26, 2021 6:31 PM GMT
Named…OMICRON

:o
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 26, 2021 7:51 PM GMT
Good point Gaze.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 26, 2021 7:56 PM GMT
We don't know a lot about the effects of caffeine during pregnancy on you and your baby. So it's best to limit the amount you get each day. If you're pregnant, limit caffeine to 200 milligrams each day. This is about the amount in 1½ 8-ounce cups of coffee or one 12-ounce cup of coffee

Yeah, but they seem to know EVERYTHING about a fast tracked, not properly trialed vaccination. You really can't make this stuff up.
Report swiftynifty November 26, 2021 8:02 PM GMT
I've been trying to post an article I read about the vaccine causing impotence but I've been unable to get it up.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 26, 2021 8:05 PM GMT
Trying looking through your scrapbook of Carole Voderbum pictures first, Swifty. Devil
Report EastLower Gooner November 26, 2021 8:49 PM GMT
Naming it Omicron can only mean one thing….

https://youtu.be/Ia5c78zlyxw

Lrrrr is on his way to Earth Laugh

Been racking my brain the last hour wondering where I heard Omicron before lol
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 26, 2021 9:09 PM GMT
He was the last Irish jockey to ride at 7 stone.
Report GEORGE.B November 26, 2021 10:07 PM GMT
I've been thinking about this advocating that people who decline the jibby jab should be denied medical care, and you know what, I'm now actually in agreement with it!

It's a tough decision, but I guess if I become seriously ill, I'm just going to have to do without being potentially placed in an induced coma and put on a ventilator for weeks / months.

#Gutted
Report Gaze733 November 26, 2021 10:31 PM GMT
Some idiot reported my posts again. Show yourself you pathetic coward.
Report Gaze733 November 26, 2021 10:34 PM GMT
It's one thing to not believe in something, it's another to call the mods to censor facts you don't like.
Report Gaze733 November 26, 2021 10:38 PM GMT
Censorship is the most infuriating problem in our "free" society. If you need to censor someone to win a debate, it means your arguments are sh1t and you're wrong.
Report Gaze733 November 26, 2021 10:51 PM GMT
George, I've been thinking the same thing. If I could sign a waiver that would give me ALL pre-2020 freedoms back if I waived my right to medical care, I would do it in a second. But there would be no point in signing it if I can't even go to a restaurant. Also, I don't know if "medical care" means everything or just covid-related treatment.
Report Whippin Piccadilly November 27, 2021 9:15 AM GMT
A new variant originating in a third world country, pharmaceutical companies start readying a new vaccine and their share prices start climbing. Hmmm, who could have predicted this would happen?
Report Gaze733 November 27, 2021 12:07 PM GMT
Conspiracy theorists 3 months ago: "there will be a new variant and lockdowns in winter"

Absolutely shocking, no one could have predicted it.
Report Gaze733 November 27, 2021 12:09 PM GMT
When I talked to people in the summer, they actually believed we'd be free by winter. So ridiculously naive.
Report saddo November 27, 2021 1:32 PM GMT
Just 3 weeks, back in March 2020.
Report EastLower Gooner November 27, 2021 1:47 PM GMT
Saka boooooom
Report EastLower Gooner November 27, 2021 1:47 PM GMT
Oops sorry…wrong thread Blush
Report MJK November 27, 2021 4:11 PM GMT
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/mma/7981560/ufc-diego-sanchez-covid-clot-pneumon...
Report Deptford November 27, 2021 5:00 PM GMT
2 cases found here, there you go.
Report saddo November 27, 2021 5:06 PM GMT
Hello Deptford, you got your results yet?
Report GEORGE.B November 27, 2021 5:18 PM GMT
MJK 27 Nov 21 16:11
https://www.thesun.ie/sport/mma/7981560/ufc-diego-sanchez-covid-clot-pneumonia/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=irishsunsportfacebook&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1638023276

I don't know what this stuff is he took as a 'remedy' for his symptoms, but a quick google search reveals:

after infusion or injection, including fever, difficulty breathing, rapid or slow heart rate, tiredness, weakness or confusion. If these symptoms occur, contact your healthcare provider or seek immediate medical attention as some of these symptoms have required hospitalization.

but never mind that, it's deffo the covid that's caused his hospitalisation, right?
Report The Management November 27, 2021 5:26 PM GMT
All these high performance athletes collapsing - Am I the only one that's thinking maybe the Vaccine just doesn't mix well with either cocaine or illegal performance enhancing drugs?

Have lots of pro cyclists fallen off their bikes? - that would surely confirm my hunch.
Report saddo November 27, 2021 5:30 PM GMT
The Management 27 Nov 21 17:26 
All these high performance athletes collapsing

.........................

You might get in bother for suggesting that is more than coincidence TM
Report JetLoneStar November 27, 2021 5:37 PM GMT
Report The Management November 27, 2021 5:39 PM GMT
Double jabbed here Saddo - but you can't be too careful - I have told Bayern Munich that I won't be able to play this evening! It seems they have reluctantly replaced me up-front with some Polish fella.
Report The Management November 27, 2021 5:41 PM GMT
I just hope he doesn't score and keep me out for the rest of the season.
Report ladycarla November 27, 2021 5:42 PM GMT
A new deadly variant wear your masks again but we won't stop the source(flights still allowed in) does Boris ever learn.
Report saddo November 27, 2021 5:45 PM GMT
They've no idea if it's deadly or not. South African health chief says it is mild.
Report JetLoneStar November 27, 2021 5:54 PM GMT
here we go, "will boris ever learn" "should have closed the borders sooner" "should have locked down faster"


will people ever learn is the better questionPlain
Report ladycarla November 27, 2021 6:10 PM GMT
You miss understand stood, if it's that bad we got to wear masks why are 300 plus people allowed in a confined space for 12 hour flights.
Report Deptford November 27, 2021 6:54 PM GMT
Not yet saddo.
Report Life-Lucky November 27, 2021 7:28 PM GMT
Never mind all that, have we saved the NHS yet?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves November 27, 2021 8:49 PM GMT
Three young Belgian cyclists suffer heart problems after a race:
https://rtv.be/artikels/jonge-kempense-wielrenners-krijgen-hartklachten-na-vaccinatie-a102612

Greg van Aevermat, 36, pro cyclist, "form dip" since vaccine:
https://www.indeleiderstrui.nl/wielrennen/van-avermaet-wijst-naar-vaccin-als-oorzaak-vormdip-op-deze-manier-heeft-wk-geen-zin/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Ceylin Alvarado, 23, pro cyclist, out for season due to blood complications:
https://www.nu.nl/sport-overig/6160296/veldrijdster-alvarado-voorlopig-niet-in-actie-door-verstoord-bloedbeeld.html

Greg Luyssen, 22, Belgian pro cyclist, ends career due to heart issues:
https://kw.be/sport/wielrennen/wielerbelofte-greg-luyssen-22-uit-de-panne-over-gedwongen-afscheid-door-hartprobleem-dat-akelig-gevoel-wil-ik-nooit-meer/


Kyle Warner, pro BMX cyclist, has pericarditis post vaccine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aebtcTi7EaA



They're the only ones I can find in cycling. Far fewer than football, where there are even cases of refs and linesmen collapsing:

Ghanaian referee collapses during AFCON Match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvPQO44NzN4

Helen Edwards, linesman, taken off in World Cup qualifier owing to heart issues:
https://www.rtl.de/cms/dfb-spiel-unterbrochen-linienrichterin-vom-platz-getragen-4834888.html
Report GEORGE.B November 27, 2021 9:16 PM GMT
Just seen that the face nappies have been mandated again

from the summmer of 2020, this guy must be a f*cking prophet

https://twitter.com/coxsorange/status/1464691949584142345
Report ladycarla November 27, 2021 9:20 PM GMT
Let's hope this study is just a rogue one-off or it could be a massive worry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEBGl8MVE-c
Report JetLoneStar November 27, 2021 9:44 PM GMT
I remember at the start Dr. Campbell was revered and one of the go-to's, then he started not even questioning the narrative, but showing data that contradicted the propaganda, he's now not so revered.

Go figure.
Report ladycarla November 27, 2021 10:14 PM GMT
JET- Been on the chablis all day I don't know which side you're on LaughLaugh My bad apologies Sad
Report JetLoneStar November 27, 2021 10:26 PM GMT
I'm on the side that knows all this nonsense has f all to do with 'public health'

enjoy the chablis Laugh
Report ladycarla November 27, 2021 10:30 PM GMT
We're on the same side Cool I will pour another one to celebrate LaughLaugh
Report Manoleeds November 27, 2021 10:30 PM GMT
Hoping that racecourses count as hospitality as I'm not going if muzzles are expected in the betting shops and bars .
Report GEORGE.B November 28, 2021 11:51 AM GMT
Neil Clark
@NeilClark66
·
5h
It’s not ‘just a mask’. EU citizens dutifully did what their govts told them & kept their masks on in the summer & autumn. And what did it lead to? Vaccine Passports & more lockdowns. Mask compliance is the step towards further, harsher restrictions as we saw last winter in UK.
Report Greg_Gory November 30, 2021 10:29 AM GMT
Omicron B is an anagram of NO CRIMBO
wake up ffs Laugh
Report Greg_Gory November 30, 2021 10:32 AM GMT
Either that or B Moronic Laugh
Report GEORGE.B November 30, 2021 11:07 AM GMT
One of their own MPs probably has their intentions sussed:

Mark Harper
@Mark_J_Harper
·
16h
⚠️ As you can see in the clip above, if restrictions are further strengthened at the end of the 3 week period (20 Dec - when House is in recess) the Govt isn’t ruling out signing those restrictions into law by decree…depriving the Commons of the right to debate and vote on them.

Which no doubt the Labour Party will be all for.
Report Movewiththetimes November 30, 2021 11:20 AM GMT
Sneaky *******
Report Life-Lucky November 30, 2021 11:59 AM GMT
Just been to WH Smith, no signs or posters up regarding masks -
Report swiftynifty November 30, 2021 12:06 PM GMT
Sky news now live from Victoria. Reporter says most people abiding by new rules. First 5 youngish blokes walking behind her and not a mask in sight.
Report swiftynifty November 30, 2021 11:32 PM GMT
A Scottish female rugby player has died suddenly. Something is going on.
Report Life-Lucky December 1, 2021 8:59 AM GMT
A Scottish female rugby player has died suddenly. Something is going on.

Rare
Report GEORGE.B December 1, 2021 10:00 AM GMT
Breaking news - three people have "escaped" from a "quarantine" camp in Australia - search underway and major police checkpoints were set up Crazy

https://twitter.com/JannerDarren/status/1465950548654493696
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk December 1, 2021 10:29 AM GMT
Madness.
Report spyker December 1, 2021 11:32 AM GMT
i've asked this a number of times before and surprisingly didn't get an answer so here goes again, what would you lot have done with gas masks in the war that you claim to have won yourselves but never took part in? I'm not sure they were ever used (there is some doubt as to how effective they would have been) yet they had to be carried by everyone everywhere and you got arrested if you didn't? The danger was unseen and unproven yet pretty much everyone did as they were told for the duration. I won't even bother asking about blackouts as you def wouldn't have bothered to shut the curtains.
Report saddo December 1, 2021 11:44 AM GMT
It's a virus with cold like symptoms for most, not a 1000 lb bomb ffs.
Report Angela Rebecchi December 1, 2021 12:38 PM GMT

Dec 1, 2021 -- 11:44AM, saddo wrote:


It's a virus with cold like symptoms for most, not a 1000 lb bomb ffs.


Laugh

Report howard December 1, 2021 12:59 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Life-Lucky December 1, 2021 1:03 PM GMT
These wartime analogies are a hoot! Keep 'em comin'
Report EastLower Gooner December 1, 2021 1:19 PM GMT
Reminds me of this…wartime racing

https://youtu.be/0EPdJlxO26Y

All credit to them for using real horse names imo
Report GEORGE.B December 1, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
Good to see spyker making a t!t of himself again with his WW2 'comparisons'

spyker 01 Dec 21 11:32 
i've asked this a number of times before and surprisingly didn't get an answer so here goes again, what would you lot have done with gas masks in the war that you claim to have won yourselves but never took part in? I'm not sure they were ever used (there is some doubt as to how effective they would have been) yet they had to be carried by everyone everywhere and you got arrested if you didn't? The danger was unseen and unproven yet pretty much everyone did as they were told for the duration. I won't even bother asking about blackouts as you def wouldn't have bothered to shut the curtains.

Totally Fake 'President' James Delingpole
@JamesDelingpole
Masks serve the same function that gas masks served early in WW2: a propaganda psy op designed to elevate the state of fear
Report cardifffc December 1, 2021 1:49 PM GMT
all the crackpots and nutjobs of the forum have gathered on this thread
Report Movewiththetimes December 1, 2021 1:52 PM GMT
Saddo I nearly choked on my sandwich then LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report DancingBraveTheBest December 1, 2021 1:52 PM GMT
CCFC i sincerely hope you dont come to regret the above comment. Surley, surely fgs you can see things are not right and there are some very tough times coming.
Report Life-Lucky December 1, 2021 4:08 PM GMT
Greece will fine its older refuseniks 100 euros a month. Doubtless to be withheld from pensions. I'm ready to live on a ton less a month WHEN Johnson et al bring that to the UK
Report JetLoneStar December 1, 2021 8:54 PM GMT
Ursula Von Der Leyen says it's time the EU thinks about mandatory vaccination for all EU states


What is really going on here??
Report SontaranStratagem December 1, 2021 9:05 PM GMT
New World Order agenda jet

Theyve scared my uncle into having the jab now and he was the biggest anti vaxxer going ffs but hes been ill and cant hold his beer down so he ran to book his jab and hes niw flipped on it all

My thinking is with the colder weather this winter itll mean less vitamin D and more drain and illness like symptoms, trust me most who talk a good game will give in sadly

They havent the minerals for a war so feck em, they cant be trusted or relied upon anyway
Report screaming from beneaththewaves December 1, 2021 9:47 PM GMT
Medical emergencies in the crowd caused two Premier League matches to be halted on Wednesday night.

The game between Watford and leaders Chelsea was stopped for more than 30 minutes after a supporter suffered a cardiac arrest during the first half.

The fan was stabilised before being taken to hospital.

Later, the start of the second half between Southampton and Leicester was delayed by about 15 minutes after a supporter was taken ill.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59499149
Report cardifffc December 1, 2021 10:14 PM GMT
dont tell you are blaming the vaccine
Report JetLoneStar December 1, 2021 10:16 PM GMT
Ye how could it be the vaccine, people have been having heart attacks at football games for as long as I can remember, the athletes too!

basically dont believe what you are seeing with your own eyes

regards, factchecker.
Report GEORGE.B December 1, 2021 10:19 PM GMT
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

― George Orwell, 1984
Report The Knight December 1, 2021 10:20 PM GMT
This business of stopping football matches because of a 'medical emergency' is surely not being thought of as a possible problem with the vaccine is it?

My god. to start with, today someone only need break a fingernail in public and panic sets in but aside from my contempt for the drama-fuelled society we now live in, let's look at the business of medical emergencies at a football match shall we?

To begin with, in the Dagenham v Salford TV cup tie a few weeks back, the medical emergency was someone with a cut head having stumbled over bringing a cup of tea back to where he was standing. He pleaded to be left alone but the stewards and medical staff carted him away on a stretcher, no doubt loving the chance to invoke their 'procedures'. And as for the TV commentator that night, I thought he was going to cry at one point.

Now, tonight a reported heart attack victim at one of the games. OK, that's bad but when I was at West Ham v Wolves in 1974 a guy keeled over with what appeared to be a heart attack just a short distance away from where my dad and I were stood. Space was made for the medics (St John's Ambulance) and he was taken away on a stretcher down the touchline but the game did not stop.

Moving on to the late 1980's, one autumn meeting a poor guy suffered at heart attack at Ascot right by the rails bookies. Nobody, including me, could get by for about five minutes until a pathway was cleared. The poor chap was a big fella and the look of how blue he had gone in the face was truly awful. The medics worked on him as his mates stood there, some of them in tears, because he had clearly died.

BUT betting for the next race went on and so did the race itself. Disrespectful yes, but the point is that we are now hearing about all these spectator medical emergencies although they are almost certainly no more common then they ever have been.

To link it with the vaccine is a bit over the top and on a site where there are so many supposed sharp minds who should be good at figures, the lack of awareness - or just plain ignoring - of how few issues we have had given close to 50 million - 50 MILLION - people have been jabbed completely amazes me!

Lastly, as for the WW2 comparisons. Yes, a bit daft, but I tell you for sure that if today's anxt-ridden society ever went through what the public went through in WW2 it would collapse in on itself inside a week. We have become a nation of drama queens and for those of us brought up in the 60's and 70's it is all a bit stomach churning.
Report GLASGOWCALLING December 1, 2021 10:28 PM GMT
Well said The Knight.
Report JetLoneStar December 1, 2021 10:30 PM GMT
Could someone post heart attack data for athletes pre-vaccine vs post vaccine.

I've seen what it is but don't to face the wrath of the moderators again.

I'll give you a hint though, there are differences Devil
Report Movewiththetimes December 1, 2021 10:33 PM GMT
Probably the most famous one.

Dixie Dean died on 1 March 1980 at age 73 after suffering a heart attack at Everton's home ground Goodison Park whilst watching a match against their closest rivals, Liverpool. It was the first time that Dean had visited Goodison Park in several years, due to ill health.
Report JetLoneStar December 1, 2021 10:34 PM GMT
Nobody is saying that it never happens, but it certainly seems to be more frequent this year.
Report GLASGOWCALLING December 1, 2021 10:39 PM GMT
..Ever thought athlete's / Footballer's may be training harder than ever before. ??
Report JetLoneStar December 1, 2021 10:43 PM GMT
Haha, props for your mental gymnastics, impressive stuff.
Report howard December 2, 2021 1:33 PM GMT
how many British professional footballers /jockeys or other young sportsmen/women  have definitely died of covid  please ?
Report howard December 2, 2021 1:35 PM GMT
Or been in ICU beds.
Report DancingBraveTheBest December 2, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
None that i can recall HowardConfused
Report GLASGOWCALLING December 2, 2021 3:24 PM GMT
  how many British professional footballers /jockeys or other young sportsmen/women  have definitely died of covid  please ?


  Howard, please dont let the facts get in the way of a good thread, comedy gold this is.
Report BarryM December 3, 2021 10:52 AM GMT

Dec 2, 2021 -- 1:33PM, howard wrote:


how many British professional footballers /jockeys or other young sportsmen/women

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk December 3, 2021 11:10 AM GMT
Dying with covid after a positive test in the last 28 days is the criteria. Phew what a mouthful
Dying OF covid is not easily ascertained
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk December 3, 2021 11:12 AM GMT
Long term effects of the vaccine aren't restricted to how you feel at dinner-time a few after being pricked.
Saying it didn't hurt much and felt groggy for 2 days isn't long-term effects
Crazy
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk December 3, 2021 11:12 AM GMT
few hours*
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