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Report Ibrahima Sonko November 5, 2021 1:31 PM GMT
999/1 henderson horse, no idea who has won.
Report MJK November 5, 2021 1:35 PM GMT
Rules question. If its a dead heat and the Henderson horse is disqualified for causing the third to snatch up is the third promoted to dead heat winner or just second??
Report dustybin November 5, 2021 1:36 PM GMT
Laugh
Report in hell November 5, 2021 1:37 PM GMT
Think the other moved off the rails and caused the gap to close
Report eightbo November 5, 2021 1:39 PM GMT
got 1000 complete unknown on the bing bong, out at 50 when mkt reopened, gg
Report Wesdag November 5, 2021 1:40 PM GMT
stewards  now

anybody see owt?
Report commander November 5, 2021 1:41 PM GMT
Yes, should be revised
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 1:42 PM GMT
Why should it be revised?

2nd wasnt hampered
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 1:42 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 8:35AM, MJK wrote:


Rules question. If its a dead heat and the Henderson horse is disqualified for causing the third to snatch up is the third promoted to dead heat winner or just second??


Oddly, there was a 1000 winner in US last night, because first was disqualified, then second disqualified, with neither objection coming from the third place horse.

Totally different situation mind. Would have been utter chaos had it been a vastly more active market.

Report commander November 5, 2021 1:44 PM GMT
2nd was hampered a few strides before the line IMO.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 1:44 PM GMT
winner veered out slightly and 3rd clipped back legs of 2nd flying down outside
Knock on effect imo
Report eightbo November 5, 2021 1:45 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 8:42AM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Nov  5, 2021 --  2:35PM, MJK wrote:Rules question. If its a dead heat and the Henderson horse is disqualified for causing the third to snatch up is the third promoted to dead heat winner or just second??Oddly, there was a 1000 winner in US last night, because first was disqualified, then second disqualified, with neither objection coming from the third place horse.Totally different situation mind. Would have been utter chaos had it been a vastly more active market.


Dont they switch the placings directly with the horse which received the inconvenience, meaning 1st would be whoever the 1st hampered ? or am I wrong here

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 1:45 PM GMT
Darlo I've laid the 3 i/r in another race in  USA and front 2 got dq'd
Imagine my delight! Cry
Report swiftynifty November 5, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
MJK, isn't it a bit cold for fishing?
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
any interference was right just before the line
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 1:47 PM GMT
Where the hell is stewards betting?
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 1:48 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 8:45AM, eightbo wrote:


Nov 5, 2021 -- 2:42PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:Nov

Report commander November 5, 2021 1:49 PM GMT
More than enough interference considering it was a cigarette rappper.
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 1:50 PM GMT
Disagree. Too close to the line to say it affected the result
Report commander November 5, 2021 1:50 PM GMT
Whatever your view its a complete shambles by betfair again not opening it up!

They are completely hopeless these days.
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 1:50 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 8:45AM, eightbo wrote:


Nov 5, 2021 -- 2:42PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:Nov

Report swiftynifty November 5, 2021 1:51 PM GMT
no interest here but having seen the scout angle, should be turned around.
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 1:51 PM GMT
A disgrace from betfair tbh
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 1:51 PM GMT
BF are costing themselves commission
This is a divisive s/e and could generate good after race liquidity
Report commander November 5, 2021 1:53 PM GMT
Considering we all spent 5mins looking at the tv trying to work out what had won the photo, if the winner has done anything, it has to go.
Report eightbo November 5, 2021 1:53 PM GMT
Darlo just reply without a quote I'll know what you're talking about mate
Report swiftynifty November 5, 2021 1:54 PM GMT
JCM, betfair are NOT costing themselves commission, lengthy stewards see people trade their positions invariably reducing their potential win so paying LESS commission.
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 1:55 PM GMT
The 2nd actually barges the 3rd as well, doesnt run a true line either

this should stand
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 1:57 PM GMT
Ha ha. I'd almost given up, so I'll try again.

Yes normally that is the case.
But on this occasion the 4th / 5th jockey's complaint resulted in the first DQ being placed "dead last" as commentator called it.
There was then a claim of foul between the front two (presumably by second), which resulted in the next DQ being placed behind dead last.
The third place horse (completely unimpeded) by anything was promoted to winner. However, even if normal circumstances would have meant the first DQ being placed behind 4th/5th, would still have seen the 3rd place horse being made winner.
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 1:58 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 8:51AM, jamesdean wrote:


A disgrace from betfair tbh


In relation to US markets, there's no way of in-running playing the inquiries (probably rightly to be fair), as they're normally swiftly suspended on the line. Otherwise, it might make for some lively markets.

Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 1:59 PM GMT
They do if they open the "keep the race" market swifty?
Also people might bet anyway on a s/e having not bet during the race?
Report mitolo November 5, 2021 1:59 PM GMT
on the winner. cant do anything about it. just glad i laid some of it back
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
The delay on photo and s/e is amazing
Report swiftynifty November 5, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
JCM, I agree there, 2 markets, 2 lots of commission, they're just useless.
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 2:00 PM GMT
30 minute stewards and no betting opened for it, disgraceful
Report swiftynifty November 5, 2021 2:03 PM GMT
I wonder if they're checking the photo rather than the interference.
Report JJmbe November 5, 2021 2:03 PM GMT
shambles
Report Movewiththetimes November 5, 2021 2:04 PM GMT
Longest stewards ever Laugh
Report sparrow November 5, 2021 2:04 PM GMT
Couldn't care less attitide on the exchange for at least the past 2 years, james.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:04 PM GMT
It's as if someone's life depends on this result
Report jamesdean November 5, 2021 2:04 PM GMT
revised
Report sparrow November 5, 2021 2:05 PM GMT
Revised.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:05 PM GMT
revised
Report Poppydog. November 5, 2021 2:05 PM GMT
Blue Stello wins
Report Manoleeds November 5, 2021 2:05 PM GMT
Weighed in per Sporting Life website
Report eightbo November 5, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
never any dice on this **** when my books aren't even I swear
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
The big price layers had no chance to red-out if they wished
BF is a joke
Report Manoleeds November 5, 2021 2:06 PM GMT
And now the SL  have amended it !
Report Wesdag November 5, 2021 2:09 PM GMT
FFS!
Report commander November 5, 2021 2:10 PM GMT
Cost me a bundle.
Report Gagging November 5, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
There must be a vg chance that will be appealed and the second will be declared the rightful winner - shambolic stewards once again
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
very ul commander, could tell by your posts you thought it could go
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 5, 2021 2:18 PM GMT
Manoleeds 05 Nov 21 15:05 
Weighed in per Sporting Life website

TAKE NO NOTICE OF SL..THEY ARE ALSO USELESS.
Report commander November 5, 2021 2:19 PM GMT
I remember the days when opening up markets for steward's was something you just took for granted. These days it's a major problem for them. I don't know if it's technical or poor staff, but the site is a disgrace now, and there's nobody to complain too.
Report big aitch November 5, 2021 2:21 PM GMT
ALL THE ABOVE cOMMANDER
Report Darlo Bantam November 5, 2021 2:22 PM GMT

Nov 5, 2021 -- 9:19AM, commander wrote:


I remember the days when opening up markets for steward's was something you just took for granted. These days it's a major problem for them. I don't know if it's technical or poor staff, but the site is a disgrace now, and there's nobody to complain too.


My inkling is that it's more prevalent since operations were moved abroad. I suspect a combination of poor staff but more directly as a result of managerial decisions.

Report commander November 5, 2021 2:23 PM GMT
Sent an email asking why they didn't open up the steward's market, my reply was.....

Betfair   
Alexis (Betfair)

Nov 5, 2021, 14:17 GMT

Hi Steven,

I hope you are doing well.

The final result at the 13:25 Warwick was amended and therefore, as per our terms and conditions, we had to resettle the market accordingly. I do apologise if any inconvenience was caused by this.




Kind Regards,

Alexis
Priority Customer Service Agent

YOU COULDN'T MAKE THIS SH1T UP!
Report commander November 5, 2021 2:25 PM GMT
At least I got a reply.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk November 5, 2021 2:30 PM GMT
They are good at answering questions that are not asked. I'll give em that
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 5, 2021 2:43 PM GMT
just re watching hd on..the winner had edged a yd right near the line which caused the 3rd to move right which caused the 2nd to be sl unbalanced..
Report Wesdag November 5, 2021 4:06 PM GMT
very harsh imo

always thought horse out clear can run where it wants
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