Ken Pitterson

I agree with CW. He is giving his much valued opinion on fitness. Was Shiskin fully fit today? NEVER. It badly needed the race.

All queueing up to comment now Grin

  Go through all my posts Sparrow, stayed on the same theme throughout that Ken is a cross between Mystic Meg and

Gypsy Rose Lee.

We listen to Hislop, Steadman, Fitzgerald and co battering out cliches on a daily basis. If I had one pound for every time these clowns said, "The 2/5 shot looks the one to beat", I would be a millionaire. Like Celtic Warrior said is true, give the guy a break. He never said that it wouldn't win, he said it wasn't fully fit and would come on for the race. Which is true. Opposition were bang average lot.

We listen to Hislop, Steadman, Fitzgerald and co battering out cliches on a daily basis. If I had one pound for every time these clowns said, "The 2/5 shot looks the one to beat", I would be a millionaire. Like Celtic Warrior said is true, give the guy a break. He never said that it wouldn't win, he said it wasn't fully fit and would come on for the race. Which is true. Opposition were bang average lot.

Glasgow

Gypsy Rose Lee was very good. She said way back in the 19TH century that no horse with a name starting with a "W" would ever win The Derby until a year after her death.

Not a lot of people know that

She died in 1933 and what horse won The Derby in 1934?

....... Now that is what you call tipping!

.... And all the googlers looking up what horse won the 1934 Derby, it was the only runner in the race beginning with the letter "W".

ken is either an
absolute moron
loves himself
or has no friends telling him what an absolute idiot he looks all for the sake of a once a weeki 30 second clip bait

folk on here are very harsh on Ken

presumably I'm the only one that thinks Shiskin will need more if he is to win the QM?

form of that race looks very suspect to me. Greaneteen, though clearly not a Shishkin, didn't appear to run his race

I agree with you iswearitsoath - He's won a four horse race today where only two of the four could win and the other one that could win has not run his race.

Shiskin might well be a "special horse" (only time will tell) but people don't like to wait and see anymore, they like to get carried away. The sport now is all about hyper hyperbole, "heroes", "special horses", "best ever", "champions"  and "the road to Cheltenham".

My thoughts exactly, The Management.

In today's world of instant gratification, every horse's performance, every winning ride has to be the best ever witnessed. There's just no context. Shishkin's clearly a star, but I think he'll be better over a little further ideally, and while his jumping is exciting and athletic, I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the open ditches or the water catching him out in a Champion Chase (much like Azertyioup over the water jump).

Ken cannot lose he can say what he likes no one keeps notes on the strikerates of his negative or positive looking runners
the boy done well

Though i dont read too much into his paddock observations ,some comments a bit harsh as its not his decision that he be interviewed regularly on ITV now ,and if they are paying him ,why should he turn it down ? Just a guy trying to make a living ,like most of us.

ballyregan 31 Oct 21 12:25 

watch alot of racing here but the only ken i know is the landlord in earlydoors

the hype is causing problems for henderson
he uses the words "nerves" and "worried"in his interviews

there is a problem with shiskin
the jumping isnt where it needs to be
why the two tears before the last ?

you will know if its a problem before cheltenham
willie will pull his out if it aint

Tony Calvin on Wednesday's racing "Sharjah is the hot favourite to win his fourth consecutive Matheson Hurdle at 14:20 and, given he was apparently as big as a bull beforehand - don't get me started on paddock watchers, as we will be here all day ...."
I take it Tony isn't into it?

I was at Haydock a couple of Saturdays back and looking at the runners in the first race. Green Book looked like a little rat compared to the others, it was a fast rat and sluiced up. Thankfully I am a better judge of women!

There are dozens and dozens of individuals on the nags gravy train who bring nothing of value, some of them have been embedded on the nags gravy train for 30+ years. Ken is not one of them. If Ken also ticks the diversity box why is that a bad thing?

Agree with Cardinal Scott.

Is Pimmy still on wh radio? Didn't listen for some time

Should box ticking trump fairness? Surely the best person for any job should get the gig, irrespective of the colour of their skin? If the two coincide then fair enough, but is that happening? I very much doubt it.

Box ticking trumps product and presentation.

Most of the presenter's in horseracing  are 3rd rate,compared to most other sports;examples_ Tanya Steveenson (boyfriend was in the management of Channel 4 racing) Lesley Grantham ( wife of a trainer) Alice Plonket ( knows everyone in racing!) Ed Chamberlain - in a distinguished  list of gravey trainers-probably the worst you could hope for if you were after any inteligent info on the race in hand.

If those in charge of programming at ITV think having someone like Mat Chapman giving you the latest odds is essential to a racing programme,( which are by the way on the screen anyway)then you obiously don't know what most people watching actually want.

mrspock

you give perfect examples below. the real intelligent ones are the race commentators themselves and only them. I think most of them are worth every penny. Richard Hoiles is excellent when he is on the itv 'MORNING LINE'.

Mr bell is okay as a baselevel presenter i suppose. again got there through nepotism

rishi is a very good and likeable frontman


i would guess that nick lucky has a tad of nepotism behind him, but thats only a guess


lydia surely has some nepotism as her grandmother loved horse racing

btw does anyone know what alastair down is doing these days?

Celtic Warrior- I would agree with most of what you say,apart from Mr bell(end)- his antics are pretty juvenile,but he's been demoted due to his daliance with Hayley Turner;he was b**king the fragant Francesca C at the time also.
One doesn't mind the nepotism as long as they have the skills for the job.

Sorry, can't have Bell.  He spends more time looking at the camera than the interviewee and boy does he love himself.  A lightweight.

Was he on yesterday or has the diversity budget been used on the mincing fashion expert?

LGBT

Is that Kens daughter?

Venetias TIPPED

all four are looking in great shape ... thanks Kenneth

Who's he? A professional punter or racing journalist? If the former bookies nemesis?

all four are looking in great shape ... thanks Kenneth

the 2 favs ran like they were drunk.  all looked in great shape though, what is the point of this man ?

The point is something we are not allowed to mention......anyway id do it for half his fee and give a better opinion

A pop-up like him gets paid for feeding trash to tv audience? Now wonder the game is in a spiral decline.

How did he get on in bropadcaster of the year. His contribution has been immeasurable   i.e if yer blink yer miss it, and probably glad you did..

The dark art of paddock watching. WALOFS>

he said seasset was fat as a pig other day..hacked up.

Ken has always been a burning issue for the forum.  Never a week goes by without a mention of him.

Before you get on lefty-woke soapbox, my issues are

1. He is crap at the job
2. Itv just filling a quota and not getting best man for the job!!

So many issues for you these days, Mr Gravy.

usual BS from any of the racing media. if he sticks up a winner its all "another one for Ken". 

calls a loser its never getting mentioned. that's not just ken, that's industry wide.

Issues are yours Sparrow, your trade union comrades will be turning in their graves.

And who might they be, Mr Gravy?    Are you familiar with trade union history in some way as I can't wait to hear about my comrades that you speak of.

Good luck to him, Ken is taking advantage of positive discrimination (latter day reparations).

Cardinal Scott   29 Dec    21 17
There are dozens and dozens of individuals on the nags gravy train who bring nothing of value, some of them have been embedded on the nags gravy train for 30+ years. Ken is not one of them. If Ken [b]also ticks the diversity box why is that a bad thing?[/b]

Ken most certainly is one of them.  Indeed he is probably the biggest one of them.  Which renders your use of the word also as flippant and irrelevant.

if his input was worth a sausage he'd have used it to make himself one of the richest people on the planet.  but there he is pimping himself to anyone that cares to listen ...

bigger than mandingo i heard..

ballyregan 31 Oct 21 12:25 
watch alot of racing here but the only ken i know is the landlord in earlydoors



"To the Regiment "

"bigger than mandingo i heard"

A friend of mine was standing next to Ken in the Bogs at Newmarket  , Said it was like a fire hose being rolled out .. 

Rico spot on again .

It;s got wendy tattooed on it I heard.

Ken now on virtual Grand national.
Wonder if he will give paddock comments.

Dessie only won once left handed.  Aye gold cup on ground totally against him.

Kens becoming the Main man on the Channel , Ed will be shifted




With a bit of Luck

Where's Ken???


I wanted him to confirm that all 12 runners look fit and there are no negatives!

i,m sure its just coincidence but kens shoes are always covered in horse and dog shoite

Ken's gone for Tom Segal's pick

.... " eased down to a virtual walk " !!! 

Ken Knew

Much prefer Ken to Ed. At least the guy actually offers something to the viewer.

Selection 2nd ran well

Only mentioned the 2nd and the winner

Will Ken soon be presenting the Morning Show?
Stutter, stammer, err, not come in his coat yet ( the horse, not Chappers ), err, stutter.

To Gravy and some other clueless posters (including the ill motivated): KP does not TIP. He tells you (in his opinion) which runners are looking well and which are not. That is not "tipping". If you are unaware that a horse can lokk "unfurnished" or "small" or "not come in her coat" and than for daid animal to trot up, you really need some educating about horses. You also have the right to ignore his comments and move on.

i think hes alright,hes only assessing a horses well being in its visual condition,its up to you whether you factor that into your personal opinion on a horses chance.

Leave ken alone. Hes a nice chap who does a very good specific job. One of the good guys who you will always see on course, always happy and smiling too. Maybe some people are just plain old fashioned jealous

Surprises me how many people on here can continual moan about this man.

*continually.

I agree he;s likeable but is he necessary is the question.  No is my answer.  Spotted by someone amidst all the hysteria about not enough black representation in racing and he ticks a box - no more than that for me.  My racing experience is not enriched by anyone telling me whose coat is gleaming best.
And I have taken the advice and ignored a pointless comment and moved on.

excellent paddock judge

Correct Celtic

Agreed

  excellent paddock judge


   Er I think you find being the only one shown on TV he has what you might call cornered the market, from the few times

   I have heard him I would call him Mediocre to Poor.

Glasgow - Where were you, when you heard & saw what he saw and disagreed with his view. Just wondering?

.I know what you are lmplying bb, but you can hardly make your living out of just describing a horses condition without backing you judgement with hard cash, surely that is the whole purpose of it.

Nice bloke
Nowt against him

But his paddock highlights leave something to be desired
Wouldn't follow him at all
And i know nowt about a horses coat, hat or tie
More negatives would be more helpful
Ones with 3 legs - in market ?

I am not implying anything. You said "from the few times I have heard him I would describe him as mediocre to poor". I was merely wondering if you were on course when you formed this view or you were just disagreeing with him from the TV. I am not sure if he bets but he does seem to be making a little income from what he does.

Yes, going by the times I have seen him on the TV, maybe half a dozen times. As I say it's hard to judge how good he is because he is the ONLY one.

Maybe some people are just plain old fashioned jealous

ken will remain a 'box ticking exercise' until ken can show us kens £15m pad in London's Bishops Avenue, kens Pagani Huayra, kens Gulfstream 550 private jet and kens own island just off Saint Vincent and the Grenadines - all bought and paid for through kens superior paddock watching ability  ....

Ken likes Pyledriver and Hukum here

Ken knew

a 1,2 for Ken.

ken's just ordered a gulfstream

sodastream more like.

Well done K.P.

Kens got the game by the Bollix .

Yes its the ITV and Ken again, Episode 782.

He's sweet on Holly and Nashwa. He also likes Emily Upjohn. Take your pick.

ken goes for nashwa

fav drifting

ken the man for the each-way shrewdies

Chear spucker.

He seems a knowledgeable and inoffensive bloke but has he ever
selected a paddock-pick that's not near the head of the betting?

I suspect he'd be fcuked if he couldn't see the number cloth.
It's a cliche-ridden yawnfest every time they ask him for an opinion.

Must be on holiday today

he'll be consulted before the Derby. Ken = money-printing machine

"Desert Crown and Stone Age look well "

Do people know that KEN PITTERSON is an anagram of

NO KEN TIPSTER     

how ironic.

Classic

Desert Crown looks
MAGNIFICENT

Put up Desert Crown (NAP) and Westover.  Would have had the forecast if Hornby hadnt made a complete mess of it :(

Ken knew.

so ken 1/2 in the coronation, each-way in the oaks, 1/3 in the derby. money-printing machine.