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differentdrum
25 Oct 21 15:27
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Worst in history? A chance to win £50,000+ with no Irish entries to spoil the party. This used to be the first Gold Cup trial.

And you will always get trainers waffling on about there not being enough opportunities for good horses. Well where are they?

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By:
sixtwosix
When: 25 Oct 21 16:08
Not exactly Wayward Lad , One Man or Burrough Hill Lad.....simply keep your elite chaser unbeaten for the season by keeping it in a stable all year.
By:
ribero1
When: 25 Oct 21 16:14
I live a couple of miles away and although plenty of rain about in the west it appears by no means certain to get this far east,there's decent prize money over both days but I fear plenty of small fields no doubt highlighted by the customary 2-3 runner novice chase on the Friday with nearly 15k added.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 25 Oct 21 17:08
Antepost odds have Cyrname at 11/8 f which has to be a leap of faith given the two pulled ups though of course he won the race last year. You can only get 2 places ew suggesting not all will go to post.
By:
penzance
When: 25 Oct 21 17:17
8 declared,if they're not willing to lay E/W 3plcs,
they should'nt have a book until the race day decs.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 25 Oct 21 17:22
Cyrname to beat this lot and be compared to 'himself' again with a rating of 184 ........
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Oct 21 18:09
Shocking entries I couldn’t believe what I saw
By:
Hibore
When: 25 Oct 21 18:19
Henderson is sending Chantry to Sandown and Champ to Betfair Chase.

Unfortunately there aren’t that many top chasers either side if the pond at the moment.
By:
Davy Jones
When: 25 Oct 21 18:24
the intermediate chase run the following day has stolen most of this field, at least 6 of the horses entered there should be running at Wetherby, too many similar races.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 25 Oct 21 19:08
You do realise there's a 3 Mile grade 1 in Ireland on the same day, right? The Irish have their race schedule and we have ours. This isn't going to change anytime soon and I don't think it should.
By:
tony6499
When: 25 Oct 21 19:28
Surprised Sadik hasn't entered something as there will be some easy prize money up for grabs. Even with no Irish runners surely they can make up a better field than this ?
By:
sixtwosix
When: 25 Oct 21 19:49
Some previous quality lineups ......mind they are all from a different century

1993 Barton Bank beat Garrison Savannah , Jodami , Tipping Tim and Sibton Abbey
1994 Young Hustler beat Barton Bank(clear when falling ....not for the last time) , Cogent  , Black Humour , Young Hustler , and Run For Free
1996 One Man beat Barton Bank , Scotton Banks and Young Hustler
1997 One Man beat Barton Bank
1983 Wayward Lad beat Royal Judgement and Ashley House
1984 Burrough Hill Lad beat Wayward Lad and Donegal Prince
1986 Forgive 'n Forget beat Cybrandian and Wayward Lad
1992 Tipping Tim beat Pat's Jester , Cool Ground , Kildimo and Cahervillow
1999 See  More Business beat Looks Like Trouble and Simply Dashing
By:
sageform
When: 25 Oct 21 20:32
this kind of post happens nearly every day lately. The problem is going, not just on course but for training. Not many top class jumpers are ready yet. Cyrname will need to run really badly to get beaten.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Oct 21 07:09
1984 it does not get much better than that.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 26 Oct 21 10:12
93 not too shabby ....2 Gold Cup Winners ,
By:
sixtwosix
When: 26 Oct 21 10:16
93 not too shabby ...

2 Gold Cup winners
1 King George winner
1 Mackeson Gold Cup winner
1 Hennessy Gold Cup winner

This year ....a horse who beat an under par Altior and pulled up in a King George as a short priced favourite.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Oct 21 10:34
Indeed 93 very good but the two lads were on a different planet to the 93 runners.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 26 Oct 21 10:42
I agree
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Oct 21 10:47
I still hope and think that one day wayward lad will win a gold cup and el gran senor will win that derby.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 26 Oct 21 10:50
I still hope Crisp will hold on ........

Wayward Lad would have won the Gold Cup ,but the 5 pound nonsense in a Championship race put paid to it.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Oct 21 10:54
Yes good call with crisp however I do wonder if the grand national would still be around the way it is now if crisp had of held on.
By:
sageform
When: 26 Oct 21 14:33
And Cima the Champion Hurdle. The first Grade 1 in history decided by a mares allowance.
By:
irishone
When: 26 Oct 21 20:00
There are just as many top chasers in Ireland as there have ever been. Look at their record in last years Cheltenham festival, or does that not count because the British didnt turn up ?
By:
ribero1
When: 27 Oct 21 12:25
Decent card Friday and they've even got 5 in the novice chase! although maybe should add "at the moment".
By:
Manoleeds
When: 27 Oct 21 12:56
Tony Calvin says in his ante post column today "All firms are understandably betting to only two places for each-way terms".

Why "understandably" -if all go to post there will be 3 places on the day -and if any pull out , the layer will have those horses win and place money.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 27 Oct 21 15:34
Same here, I still will him on up that hill!
A mate reminded me that when Dickinson left for the States the only horse he took with him was the Lad.  Shows how much he thought of him.
By:
Jinxy1
When: 29 Oct 21 18:39
Is Cyrname really odds against?
By:
sixtwosix
When: 29 Oct 21 19:51
Presumably the 2 successive pulled ups are the reason.

flat track bully , he will win again imo.
By:
G Hall
When: 29 Oct 21 22:28
I concur regarding Cyrname, think it will win tomorrow.
By:
jimnast
When: 30 Oct 21 07:09
haldon gold cup entries also poor.
By:
Gordon63
When: 30 Oct 21 08:46
in late 80s/90s I used to stay with my friends father in sunderland and go to Charlie Hall, sometimes also the friday meeting when I think there was a listed novice chase (usually won by W A Stephenson) in addition to the wensleydale for juveniles.  there was always a buzz on the way and on the track itself, I doubt any of today's runners will excite in the same way as Barton Bank, Young Hustler, One Man or See More Business. Not sure if this is part of the general decline in the chasing domain in UK or a continuation of the slide down the table of Wetherby racecourse itself e.g. Castleford Chase, however in spite of this, the meeting brings back many happy memories and hopefully top rated Cyrname wins otherwise I'd say the Grade 2 status will be in question in not too distant future.
By:
Gordon63
When: 30 Oct 21 08:51
just remembered one of my highlights of going to charlie hall chase day was a fairly large bet on berude not to when it won the novice hurdle at ascot, unfortunately I gave it all back and more (!) when jamie osborne managed to get it beat a head in the sun alliance, still one of my largest losing bets!!
By:
jimnast
When: 30 Oct 21 09:04
i think it was putty road gordon who beat him at the festival.
By:
brians
When: 30 Oct 21 10:37
It has been raining very heavily here in Yorkshire with more forecast today. Wetherby will be like a quagmire. I think the race will be more like a 4 mile chase. This brings in Mighty Thunder , who has won over extreme distances including the Scottish Grand National. Has to be an outsider each way at 33/1 . 6s to be placed in first 3 on Betfair. I can see several not finishing and this one plugging on.
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