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GEORGE.B
05 Oct 21 21:26
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Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:27 PM BST
balances amended !
Report Zephyrus October 5, 2021 9:31 PM BST
Same here.
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:31 PM BST
I'd thought they'd weighed in and everyone had gone home after the judge had called Proclaimer the winner.
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 9:33 PM BST
Think "B`F" are making the race void "G`B"
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:33 PM BST
Hang on a tick, just gonna check the BHA stewards page
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:35 PM BST
An enquiry was held into the circumstances surrounding the correction of the provisional placings in Race 8, from PROCLAIM, as the winner, and COVERHAM (IRE), placed second, to be confirmed as a dead heat. The Judge and the BHA Steward were interviewed. Having heard their evidence, a report was forwarded to the Head Office of the British Horseracing Authority for further consideration.
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 9:41 PM BST
No "weighed in" "G`B" ?
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:45 PM BST
I don't know, bluenose, but they appear to be settling the race for a third time.
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 9:47 PM BST
Just stake back for me "G`B"
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:48 PM BST
did they weigh in before the dead heat was announced, does anyone know?
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 9:52 PM BST
showing as a dead heat and weighed in on the Sky fast results page
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 9:56 PM BST
I thought the official result after the weigh in was posted on the R'Post.
It's "D`Heat" on there/their (in case Delta) is reading.
I never know if its "there  or their"  Crazy
Report wondersobright October 5, 2021 9:58 PM BST
delta just texteded said its they're
Report the dealer October 5, 2021 9:59 PM BST
Was working in shop, passed the original result then changed to dead heat at least 10 mins later, if there was a weigh in I never saw it on screens. The fact they changed it to a dead heat and left it as a dead heat would suggest they hadn't.
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 9:59 PM BST
Cry
Report ballyregan October 5, 2021 10:09 PM BST
anyone remember the old days when bets were manually settled in bookmakers and you used to get paid out extra by mistake and you never went back the shop for a while
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:14 PM BST
i can't rem a time when the bha, stewarding & judges particularly was as fecked as it is now, too dark, camera at the wrong angle, incorrect calls galore, they are absolutely shambolic and preside over a multi-million pound industry with all the comic genius of the marx bros
Report bluenose7 October 5, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Yes & you were asked to put the money into the charity box,which the bookmakers emptied  Wink
Report ballyregan October 5, 2021 10:17 PM BST
is emily jones the judge tonight?  if so i seriously question her visual ability considering she went out with luke harvey for a long while
Report GEORGE.B October 5, 2021 10:19 PM BST
not emily
Report racingpost October 5, 2021 10:19 PM BST
kempton dead heat, showing as made a profit today but why has my balance not been updated ??
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:21 PM BST
because they have unlocked the market and are in the process of resettling in some way or other
Report ballyregan October 5, 2021 10:22 PM BST
rishi is annoyed on twitter but you always have a lady sticking for the bha quite funny really
Rishi
Last race at Kempton - result changed. Dead Heat now called. Extraordinary.
lady
Sometimes it's good to have the nerve to change a decision and do the right thing.  Unless every one of us is always right and absolutely perfect. I applaud their courage in changing it
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:22 PM BST
though only god would know how as they currently have the first two home with a reduction factor
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 10:32 PM BST
They have voided my photo bets, where I laid Coverham at odds-on.

   
Voided - Closed Markets
Period:    
Just for Today

(relates to bet placement date)
   
2021-10-05 00:00

(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)     to    
2021-10-05 22:29

(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)   
Download to Spreadsheet    ?
Market    Selection    Bid type    Bet ID    Bet
placed         Persistence    Odds
req.    Stake
(£)    Liability
(£)    Avg. odds
matched    Profit/Loss
(£)   
    GB / Kempton 5th Oct / 20:30 1m Hcap
Coverham    Lay    246428334287    05-Oct-21 20:33        C    1.61    90.16    55.00    1.61    -    
    GB / Kempton 5th Oct / 20:30 1m Hcap
Coverham    Lay    246428415402    05-Oct-21 20:34        C    1.72    68.00    48.96    1.72
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 10:33 PM BST
... and closed the market.
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:35 PM BST
not closed here screaming, they would have to resettle & i think that's what they are doing but i suspect they have fecked it up and are now sorting the mess out, i've still got 9k tied up
Report racingpost October 5, 2021 10:35 PM BST
the betting said its a dead heat, are the judges now feeling under pressure to give a definite result ? i would have thought that we had lazer technology today that would decide the result beyond any doubt !!
Report racingpost October 5, 2021 10:38 PM BST
elise, 9k tied up, yea right,pmsl
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:38 PM BST
yeah right ...
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:39 PM BST
Buckingham 1,000.00 £8.79 £8,781.21
Report ballyregan October 5, 2021 10:40 PM BST
heres the print bha dont have it up on there website yet
https://twitter.com/Simonfkirk/status/1445484402755047438/photo/1
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:40 PM BST
Star Of Valour 1,000.00 £8.42 £8,411.58
Report ONTHEBIT October 5, 2021 10:42 PM BST
How on earth have they called Proclaimer the winner?! - someone is getting sacked in the morning! - or they should be!!!
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:42 PM BST
won't be though it's just another pile of shoite
Report racingpost October 5, 2021 10:42 PM BST
by the look of things betfair are going to void bets, ive got my stake back but thats it !!
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:45 PM BST
you've got your stake back on the first two because as above they stuck them in currently as non runners, the market is open for settling
Report GLASGOWCALLING October 5, 2021 10:46 PM BST
Have you apologized yet Racingpost.??
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 10:47 PM BST
elise -
not closed here screaming, they would have to resettle & i think that's what they are doing but i suspect they have fecked it up and are now sorting the mess out, i've still got 9k tied up

I was going by:

Voided - Closed Markets
Period:   
Just for Today

(relates to bet placement date)
   
2021-10-05 00:00

(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)     to   
2021-10-05 22:29

(yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm)   
Download to Spreadsheet    ?
Market    Selection    Bid type    Bet ID    Bet
placed         Persistence    Odds
req.    Stake
(£)    Liability
(£)    Avg. odds
matched    Profit/Loss
(£)   
    GB / Kempton 5th Oct / 20:30 1m Hcap
Coverham    Lay    246428334287    05-Oct-21 20:33        C    1.61    90.16    55.00    1.61    -   
    GB / Kempton 5th Oct / 20:30 1m Hcap
Coverham    Lay    246428415402    05-Oct-21 20:34        C    1.72    68.00    48.96    1.72
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:48 PM BST
screaming, click on the 8.30 mkt if you still have it in the list, it's unsettled with the exception of coverham and proclaimer which are listed as non runners
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:49 PM BST
coverham just reopened
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:50 PM BST
now reopened proclaimer
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 10:53 PM BST
Ah, I see.

I suppose that's where the problem is. It's a Schroedinger's market, simultaneously opened and closed depending on the point of view of the settler.
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:54 PM BST
still not finalised the mkt though bud
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:56 PM BST
when they had those two out the traded value was at 163k, it's now 417k so all that money went back to peoples accounts and has now been removed again while they do whatever they are doing this time
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 10:57 PM BST
Report elise October 5, 2021 10:57 PM BST
you're looking good this week, new hairstyle?
Report swiftynifty October 5, 2021 10:59 PM BST
The judges at the BHA are utterly hopeless. But, Betfair make their own problems with the fast settling nonsense. Just wait until the weigh in. Simple enough.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves October 5, 2021 11:00 PM BST
New computer too.
Report elise October 5, 2021 11:00 PM BST
here we go, what joys have we got on this settlement then?
Report elise October 5, 2021 11:01 PM BST
mkt now showing as a dh for the result
Report elise October 5, 2021 11:02 PM BST
and all paid out
Report ballyregan October 5, 2021 11:03 PM BST
only took 2 hours 20 not bad
Report Virgin October 5, 2021 11:17 PM BST
Settled Crazy Only took 2.5 hours  Crazy
Report ProSniper October 5, 2021 11:44 PM BST
TBF it was a very tricky puzzle to solve..
Report Movewiththetimes October 6, 2021 12:26 AM BST
As a old man once said to me 'A gambler who wants his winnings straightaway is just a gambler'
Report the dealer October 6, 2021 3:15 PM BST
8.30 Kempton Tuesday: full result and race replay

A new system was brought in following the Kempton blunders, with the photo now reviewed by stewards before the official weighed-in notice is given, allowing for amendments to be made.

The system had to be used as Sandown in the summer when the result of a 5f handicap was revised after the reverse mirror was found not to be straight when examined, meaning the provisional result given by the judge was incorrect.

The BHA said the amended result showed the systems put in place to prevent incorrect provisional results becoming official was working.

A spokesman said: "An incorrect provisional result was announced following last night's final race at Kempton.

"Routine verification procedures are in place to cross-check all results prior to the announcement of the official result, which meant that the error was corrected prior to the official weighed-in announcement."
Report elise October 6, 2021 4:40 PM BST
translated - we've fcked up so many times that we have now given ourselves another few minutes to correct those fck ups before you can hang us .... obviously we've no intention of actually getting the job done properly the first time, of retraining those involved or ensuring accuracy and consistency, or removing them from the role should they fail to meet the standard required, that's far too difficult
Report the dealer October 6, 2021 4:48 PM BST
100% elise, surely with the technology available now,it should be easy enough to tell what won.
Report Wesdag October 6, 2021 4:51 PM BST
Why do these clowns rush to give a result which they then have to correct?

In USA, even something that's won a neck takes ages.
Report swiftynifty October 6, 2021 4:53 PM BST
they call dead-heats in the States in 2 minutes. If the judge isn't blind they are either both touching the line or they're not. If there is a discrepancy with the mirror image the rule should state the front on image shall be taken as definitive.
Report elise October 6, 2021 4:53 PM BST
so they are calling the result and saying, we've not checked it it's still provisional (which it always was re weighed in); so why not check it before you call it you w@nkers?  it's just more bollx from an organisation that are a laughing stock, they are trying to hide from their errors with more bureaucracy and goalpost moving , just to save their inadequate @rses the next time they feck up
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