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Gaze733
20 Sep 21 14:20
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No other trainer wins as often with long shots.

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dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 14:30
not true on turf flat, but he is in contention
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Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 15:02
Even on turf flat. Snow Berry BSP 75 Cazeva Princess BSP 67 since the end of June.
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dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 15:06
here's the top ten turf flat

Eve J Houghton    25    631    4.00%
A Balding    44    1225    3.60%
D Carroll    21    577    3.60%
B Smart            23    669    3.40%
R M Beckett    21    617    3.40%
D B O'Meara    55    1655    3.30%
M Appleby    35    1056    3.30%
Richard Hannon    65    1988    3.30%
S Dixon            18    539    3.30%
J J Quinn    24    750    3.20%

table prob won't look good - Hannon would be closer to the top if you combined his father's stats with his
By:
dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 15:07
that is bfsp greater than 20 btw
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Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:16
Are those their lifetime stats? I just checked Houghton and she's made a 17pt loss in the past 2 years on the flat at 20+ BSP. The current form is more important than some ancient stats.
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dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 18:21
last 10 years - at no time did you indicate that profitability or recency was relevant.  You simply stated "No other trainer wins as often with long shots".
By:
Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:22
Balding had Oo De Lally    at 232 yesterday, clown layers shoulda checked his stats.
By:
Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:24
Of course profitability and recency are relevant, that goes without saying.
By:
Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:27
I mean yesterday 1 year ago lol. My database shows he had 0 runners above BSP 20 since November 2020, weird.
By:
dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 18:28
I know English isn't your first language, but next time why not say "Mick Appleby must be the most profitable trainer in the last week with longshots" and everyone can ignore you.
By:
Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:32
Because it's not one week you clown, it's 18 months.
By:
Gaze733
When: 20 Sep 21 18:33
When someone talks about some trainer winning a lot recently why do would you think that stats from 10 years ago are in any way relevant?
By:
dave1357
When: 20 Sep 21 18:41
When someone talks about some trainer winning a lot recently

When someone does that (and considers that it is a factor that the market isn't aware of) it's pretty certain they are a mug.

However, if over the long term a trainer appears to have an unusually high number of long odds winners, then that might say something about the trainer (that could just be that they are lucky).
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