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skiptoomaloumacari
02 Sep 21 10:15
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Will be interesting to see the reaction of the media and race-goers...............personally i think he would exceptionally foolish to set foot a British racecourse again ......
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Report hunt lunt and cunningham September 2, 2021 11:42 AM BST
Being devils advocate, some would say he has served his time and should be allowed to carry on ....
Report Poppydog. September 2, 2021 11:50 AM BST
Yet the Chit-Chat Forum remains chained and bereft in the depths of the dungeon.

... Oh, the humanity
Report Movewiththetimes September 2, 2021 12:47 PM BST
Jump trainers used to have summer off anyway.
Report freddiewilliams September 2, 2021 1:37 PM BST
Hehehe
Report freddiewilliams September 2, 2021 1:38 PM BST
In bar bados
Report knoxville September 2, 2021 1:41 PM BST
how would he foolish to set foot on a british racecourse again?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 2, 2021 2:42 PM BST
I hope he hasn't been comfort eating.
Report mrcombustible September 2, 2021 2:48 PM BST
Most racegoers wont give a F*** and rightly so
Report Hayden September 2, 2021 2:55 PM BST
Welcome back Gordon , should never have been banned in the first place.
Report Fashion Fever September 2, 2021 2:57 PM BST
1.01s hes at cheltenham
Report San Quentin September 2, 2021 3:23 PM BST
What a ridiculous stupid statement skip.Gordon has served his punishment and as far as many including myself will welcome Gordon back with open arms on any racecourse world wide.Thats what life is all about.
Report skiptoomaloumacari September 2, 2021 3:30 PM BST
The English general media would absolutely crucify him pre Cheltenham and  Aintree....a lot of ill feeling for him still remains..
Report workrider September 2, 2021 3:54 PM BST
The reason he will be hunted and and hounded by certain people is simply this, he's far too good a trainer and that kills them....
Report Fashion Fever September 2, 2021 4:02 PM BST
will itv snub him ?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 2, 2021 4:14 PM BST
I don't think the anti animal abuse brigade care about how good Elliot is Workrider Devil
Report workrider September 2, 2021 4:25 PM BST
I'm not talking about those loonies , I'm talking about the British trainers mate...
Report The_Floorman September 2, 2021 4:35 PM BST
He should have been warned off.
Report Hayden September 2, 2021 4:41 PM BST
For the vast majority of the general public it'll be a case of Gordon who ? in other words couldn't give a damn about such triviality.

The country far more concerned about the whereabouts of Colin Pitchfork than any extremely mild offence committed by a horse racing trainer.


We move on   Happy
Report mcgill September 2, 2021 4:52 PM BST
punters only interested in backing winnersHappy
Report workrider September 2, 2021 4:55 PM BST
So answer me this Floorman , whats worse sitting on a dead horse or sticking a needle into one as Chemical was found guilty of.
Report The_Floorman September 2, 2021 5:07 PM BST
Don't understand your question workrider.
Report barstool September 2, 2021 5:08 PM BST
HRI have surely had a word with him.

Would not surprise me to see a spokesman for the yard or assistant doing the press/media stuff for a while.

Hopefully he has learned from his mistake and that is that.
Report Punter #1 September 2, 2021 8:32 PM BST
i suspect there will be a huge improvement in the runners so.
Report San Quentin September 2, 2021 8:36 PM BST
Floorman being a complete arrogant, ignorant fool.
workrider your question is easy to understand and completely valid .
Report bluenose7 September 2, 2021 8:44 PM BST
Who users the needle in "Irish" racing ?
Names plzzzzzzz
Report kennythebetboy September 2, 2021 11:07 PM BST
From the start, he has been in the background pulling the strings for the puppet running the stable in name only.

The O'Leary brothers and Co. will continue to support him as they have done so since his hasty ban was implemented.

The authorities in Ireland & UK had no choice to placate the uproar that was orchestrated to do the most damage just before the Cheltenham showpiece.

Gordon, now wiser, in the future will distance himself from those unscrupulous people who were attracted to him by his rapid success and being the determined character he is he will strive to do even better from now on ... Willie Mullins may not have it all his own way in 2022.

DevilWhoopsWinkWink
Report Rico-Dangleflaps September 2, 2021 11:15 PM BST
what he done is wrapping chips now..
Report Punter #1 September 2, 2021 11:46 PM BST
O'Leary suggests often to sack certain sections of the public sector like bus drivers / train drivers and then rallies around someone like Elliott. Says a lot!
Report EastLower Gooner September 3, 2021 7:10 AM BST
Dread to think what shape he’s in…all those months sitting on his sofa.
Report MJK September 3, 2021 8:49 AM BST

Sep 2, 2021 -- 9:30AM, skiptoomaloumacari wrote:


The English general media would absolutely crucify him pre Cheltenham and

Report MJK September 3, 2021 8:50 AM BST
The same English media who give racing cheats spots on their racing programmes and in their print and online media?
Report skiptoomaloumacari September 3, 2021 11:16 AM BST
I still will find very hard want any of his horses to win......anyone who displays the callousness displayed in that photo has no place in our sport......owners who stay with him should be ashamed of themselves...
Report Hayden September 3, 2021 11:31 AM BST
Have you never cheered a Henderson horse home Skip ?
Report Hayden September 3, 2021 11:53 AM BST
Or a Micky Quinn horse ?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 11:54 AM BST
Sitting on a dead horse who has given his all, gloating like a fat pig is worse than giving injections to horses, imo
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 11:54 AM BST
And letting someone photo you as if you are a hero, is worse, imo
Report jimnast September 3, 2021 12:03 PM BST
have people nothing better to do with there lives ?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 12:07 PM BST
than post non sequiteurs on fora?
just kidding jim, chatting Cool
Report jimnast September 3, 2021 12:19 PM BST
the man made a mistake yes a big mistake we all know that especially himself ,i for one look forward to him returning both in ireland and the uk.
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 12:29 PM BST
all the opinions here are totally irrelevant
Elliot will be back next week training winners on racecourses in ireland and the UK and nowt anyone can do about it
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 12:34 PM BST
Yeah, I don't think anyone on here thinks they have the clout to stop fatman from hoisting his carcass around his stable/racecourses
Report ashleigh September 3, 2021 12:34 PM BST
exclusive interview in the post monday with gordon.Wink
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 12:36 PM BST
youre right jumpman you dont have the clout..
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 12:37 PM BST
Hopefully he'll be reinstated as a betfair ambassador
What's the betting?
10 doughnuts to a porkpie he gets his job back?
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 12:38 PM BST
its 1.01 you can do fook all about it
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 12:39 PM BST
I've got a gun though knoxy
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 12:40 PM BST
in your pants?
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 12:40 PM BST
or you just happy to be here?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 12:41 PM BST
I work in the abattoir Elliott sends his toss outs.
Guns provided
Report knoxville September 3, 2021 1:06 PM BST
off today,yeah?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 3, 2021 1:12 PM BST
On my phone in between headshots posting to the unwashed on 'ere
Since Denise took over I aint been so busy. Bless her.
Report dambuster September 3, 2021 4:59 PM BST
Hope he gets Booed all the way to the winners enclosure,especially at Chelt
Report skiptoomaloumacari September 3, 2021 8:33 PM BST
I would say that was a certainty.............
Report impossible123 September 3, 2021 8:56 PM BST
Welcome back Gordon. All is forgiven. The Irish BHA committed a more abhorrent behaviour for their lack of governance on whereabouts of racehorses post their racing careers. You only sat on one "dead" horse; they send live horses to the abattoir!

No surprise the head honchos have resigned at the same time. Good riddance!
Report Tiger Tiger September 3, 2021 9:25 PM BST
jimnast03 Sep 21 11:19Joined: 03 Jan 01 |
the man made a mistake yes a big mistake we all know that especially himself ,i for one look forward to him returning both in ireland and the uk.


I agree 100% with jimnast.
Report Kriskin September 3, 2021 10:25 PM BST
He may even make an appearance at his beloved Perth for the 2 day end of season finale.
Report RothmanMike September 3, 2021 11:50 PM BST
Time will hopefully show a change in Gordon’s demeanour.He knows he messed up, and I guess he will have
turned over in his mind what he should do going forward.
He knows he cannot change the past, but my guess is he will keep a low profile and hope the road back to being
accepted again is not too rocky.
All he can do is set a better example and steer clear of any controversy.
He has a tough job changing peoples view of him, so concentrate on doing his job well, and hope time heals.
Report acey deucy September 4, 2021 10:58 AM BST
I could not believe my eyes when i saw that photo but most of us have done something we regret...I certainly have.
Report BARROWBOY September 5, 2021 9:42 AM BST
Tbh I’m losing hope about my betting ticket for him to win spoty this year.
Report Storm Alert September 5, 2021 9:52 AM BST
Just like Henderson, served his time mostly at the most convenient time of the year, so no reason for him not to be back. Hopefully wiser and with tougher rules on who can have mobiles switched on in his yard Laugh

Fro0m a punting pov not missed him at all.
Report impossible123 September 5, 2021 4:13 PM BST
I'll listen and trust him more than Hendo any day. At least his hotpots turn up for a named principal meeting unlike Hendo despite waxing lyrical of their well-being and work.

Hendo is a bookie's man esp to his sponsor an entity known for gubbing punters; Hendo is one trainer I'll not miss if he calls it a day tomorrow.
Report jimnast September 6, 2021 6:54 AM BST
quite right impossible.
Report barstool September 6, 2021 10:39 AM BST
Might have been wise to keep his face of the front Cover of the Racing Post today.

As to the picture on page 5.

Words fail me.
Report Celtic warrior September 6, 2021 11:12 AM BST
I have to say that I was disappointed to see that double page spread in the post today. Especially the line about someone out to get him with that photo

Simple solution to that one Gordon. Just don't ride a dead horse for a supposedly funny picture

This whole episode is a gift for the masses who want to stop our great sport. Thank you Gordon for that.


Don't worry though, you will soon be back amongst the winners!
Report ballyregan September 6, 2021 11:18 AM BST
rp have had a mare
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 11:27 AM BST
Charles Byrne deserves a mention on this thread if Henderson/Quinn do
Drugs used to sedate a horse are despicable and dangerous to horse/jock alike
That feral degenerate Mahon I'm surprised is still walking around tbh
Report ballyregan September 6, 2021 2:49 PM BST
jcm did you know mahon got his banned shortened by irish racing ?
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 3:50 PM BST
Yes Bally, I heard about it yesterday on sky's The Debate
Haven't read up on it cuz it'll just wind me up!
Report ihal essex September 6, 2021 5:02 PM BST
personally i think he would exceptionally foolish to set foot a Britis%h racecourse again ......


Why?

Gordon guilty of gross disrespect by sitting on a dead animal, but get a grip, he didn't cause the horse's death. So much crap on here that is totally over the top! He has paid and continues to pay a huge price for this moment of madness that has been seized upon by a vengeful one-time friend in an attempt to crucify him. Elliot's a fat lad and possibly a tad lazy and answered a mobile call and regrettably sat down to do so on the nearest available perch. Agreed, it was shocking to look at, but the real villain of this tragedy is the malicious scumbag who published the photo. Gordon is contrite, mortified, to suggest that he would be unwise to return to British racecourse is, frankly, ridiculous!
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 5:15 PM BST
Blame the bloke who took the picture
GrinLaugh
Now THAT is ridiculous
Report Celtic warrior September 6, 2021 5:18 PM BST
How about blaming them both equally?

Lots on here think this is non story. It is a HUGE  story cos at the very core of our great sport is the love and utmost care of the very animals who provide us with such joy, no matter their ability

Okay I am so so excited about baaeed but equally love that complete rogue youholidayisover
Report ballyregan September 6, 2021 5:31 PM BST
imo what the whole scenario shows is some trainers dont really care about horses they are just tools for success
Report Celtic warrior September 6, 2021 5:35 PM BST
Of course also what we must not lose over this is the great shared friendship enjoyed through racing between brits and Irish. It cuts through so many of the other issues
Report Tiger Tiger September 6, 2021 5:43 PM BST
Have any of you viewed this, from the Show Jumping in USA? Utterly disgraceful...worse than what GE did imo.



https://www.peta.org/blog/kevin-lemke-competitive-jumper-filmed-beating-horse-show-ring/
Report ihal essex September 6, 2021 5:44 PM BST
Blame the BLOKE who took the picture

Now THAT is ridiculous

"BLOKE", Mr Jumping Cuckoo?? Now, who's being ridiculous?
Report Tiger Tiger September 6, 2021 5:48 PM BST
During the Tokyo Olympics just finished, Germany's modern pentathlon coach Kim Raisner was been thrown out of the Tokyo Olympics after punching a horse.

Raisner punched a horse during competition as German athlete Annika Schleu struggled to control it.



Disgusting, they should have been barred for life never mind thrown out. How come this didnt get any major publicity by the BBC and Sky and the media in general??
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 5:57 PM BST
I don't know who took the pick Ihal.
How far does this culpability stretch?
If I take a pic of an Elliot horse winning a race do I take some credit in its achievement?
There is only 1 person to blame here.
It's the fat man, no-one else, imo
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 5:58 PM BST
We are  going over old ground and it's been done to death
I'm gunna bow out
No offence Ihal
Be lucky Cool
Report Celtic warrior September 6, 2021 6:02 PM BST
Jumping. Don't call him a fat man please. I am a fat bar steward but respect animals
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk September 6, 2021 6:03 PM BST
okay fat c**t then
I assume you are not one of those Celtic Cool
Report impossible123 September 6, 2021 6:04 PM BST
Get over it. I understand a very serious misjudgement on his part. Let's move on. The horse was dead...any anger ought to be directed at the Irish BHA for turning a blind eye to former Irish racehorses sent to UK abattoirs to be shot for gain.
Report Celtic warrior September 6, 2021 6:04 PM BST
How do you define one or the other?
Report cloone river September 6, 2021 9:59 PM BST
Its time people move on.Everyone of us have made mistakes or done things we regret.The person who never made a mistake has never made anything.
Report MJK September 9, 2021 7:38 PM BST
He has a few entered in on Tuesday. While Cheveley Park may have stopped using him someone else has obviously stepped up judging by the purchases he has been making at various sales recently.
Report knoxville September 9, 2021 8:40 PM BST

Sep 6, 2021 -- 11:31AM, ballyregan wrote:


imo what the whole scenario shows is some trainers dont really care about horses they are just tools for success


i cant believe that some people would need to see the photo to understand this?
its business

Report ashleigh September 12, 2021 10:21 AM BST
gordon interview with racing tv aired on monday night.
Report Facts September 12, 2021 11:01 AM BST
OP 's opening comments and subsequent posts, are utterly ridiculous.
Report Tiger Tiger September 12, 2021 11:02 AM BST
I agree with Facts.
Report skiptoomaloumacari September 12, 2021 1:08 PM BST
i just think his presence could (probably would) cause serious damage to racing ..........he should just skulk off , but then again he obviously has no shame.....
Report Hayden September 12, 2021 1:27 PM BST
Crikey the forum's gone nuts and obviously full to the brim with saints.

What a good job these posters weren't around for both of Cecil's misdemeanours of drink driving and telling lies to the police.

He may never have been revered on here the way he was.

Come on guys move on , it's become tedious.
Report Tiger Tiger September 12, 2021 2:33 PM BST
I agree 100% with Hayden.
Report ashleigh September 13, 2021 6:53 PM BST
interview with gordon coming up at 8-30 tonight on rtv.
Report Tiger Tiger September 13, 2021 7:22 PM BST
Oh Purple Reign his first runner in the 2.30 tomorrow, won going away last time, up 7 and a wide draw wont help his cause for a first time back winner.
Report impossible123 September 13, 2021 7:34 PM BST
There's absolutely no comparison between Sir Cecil and Elliot. however, i do agree it's time to move on.

For a second I was elated. I thought Hendo has retired (not Altior).
Report hello :-) September 13, 2021 10:30 PM BST
there will never be another trainer as loved by punters and public as Sir Henry


to mention his name even on this thread is an offence punishable by death , or worse
Report smirnoff2therescue September 13, 2021 11:16 PM BST
but he did do wrong - wot fatty did was crass  but it wasnt the end of the world in real terms

in otha news roy chubby brown has been banned from anutha town for puttting on his show at 76 yrs of age  ffs - they did the same wiv the Sex Pistols back in 76/77 where did that get the written press - as people say in old days it wuda been tomorras fish n chips wrappings but for all that horrible stuff they put in the papers ConfusedConfusedLaughLaughLaugh
Report hello :-) September 13, 2021 11:24 PM BST
nah mate , big diff

what Sir Henry did was human , we all make mistakes and sink a little at times

what elliot did was inhuman

tho he paid his price an will now get opp to be a better person which he deserves

toon leeds friday man , be a good un Happy
Report smirnoff2therescue September 13, 2021 11:35 PM BST
easy win for Leeds we are abysmal - cracks aint gona be painted ova this season tho Leeds having 2nd season syndrome as well

Wot Elliott did wasnt gr8 and in bad taste he also deserves anutha chance - wot Panorama tried to do to him wasnt the best but hey ho its all about opinions - fatty was stupid to let that situation arise but im happy enuf to forgive n forget
Report hello :-) September 13, 2021 11:43 PM BST
not seen them so far but leeds havnt fired yet , be a hard fought match , will watch card markets as match where both see points possible could be hard fought
Report skiptoomaloumacari September 15, 2021 1:41 PM BST
Maybe Sneezy wasnt that bad after all........WhoopsWhoopsWhoopsWhoopsWhoopsWhoops
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