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kennythebetboy
07 Aug 21 11:16
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Pronounced "Carl" but should be "Charles" for all intents and purposes.

So were the "Byrnes" clan up to their old tricks again last night with Turnpike Trip ... ???

Noticeable drifter in the market from odds-on, jumps the first and 3 strides later is pulled up by Cathal (Carl) Landers ...

Stewards were straight on the case after the race:
"The Stewards interviewed C.A. Landers, rider of Turnpike Trip, regarding the fact that he pulled his mount up after the first fence. The Stewards noted that C.A. Landers reported to the Clerk of Scales that his mount went wrong after jumping the first fence. Evidence was heard from the rider concerned who stated that he felt he was flat out and on his head going into the fence and maybe his mount was feeling the ground. He felt his mount was wrong after the second or third stride following the fence, he pulled up and found his mount was holding up his left fore leg. The Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer that Turnpike Trip was post race normal and samples were taken for analysis. Having considered the evidence, the Stewards noted the explanation offered."

The Betting Intelligence Officer will no doubt be making his own report!

Shame we didn't see the horse feeling a leg on the TV coverage, but there could be mobile phones taking videos and anecdotal evidence to confirm this.
Nothing changes ...

DevilWhoopsWinkWink
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Report Greg_Gory August 7, 2021 12:26 PM BST
And look how the replacement Jockey on the 2nd fav attempts to get placed CrazyWhoops
Report chavman August 7, 2021 12:46 PM BST
good to see you posting again.the forum needs more people with your integrity mate.
Report chavman August 7, 2021 12:46 PM BST
(kenny)
Report chavman August 7, 2021 12:46 PM BST
(kenny)
Report Greg_Gory August 7, 2021 4:49 PM BST
Kendancer ScaredCrazy
Report kennythebetboy August 8, 2021 1:06 PM BST
They had 3 runners at Kilbeggan on Saturday ...

Kendancer ... 4th of 13 in 4:45, btn 16.75L 11/4 (7/4 in the morning) ... chased leaders early before soon dropping to mid-division, short of room and hampered after 4th, 9th from halfway, closer in 6th before 2 out and soon pushed along, no impression in moderate 4th before last, kept on same pace run-in

C.A. Landers, rider of Kendancer (FR) trained by Cathal Byrnes, reported to the Clerk of Scales that his mount was badly hampered at the bend past the stands. Having reviewed a recording of the incident, the Stewards were satisfied that no further action was warranted

Next race at 5:15:
Wonder Laish ... Won 4/6f (2 n/r's from opening prices in the morning of 6/4) ... chased leader in 2nd, not fluent 2 out and soon dropped to 3rd, rider lost whip before last and soon improved to dispute lead, pushed along to lead on outer inside final 100 yards, kept on well to assert close home always gong to win.

Narynkol ... 6:45 ...11th of 14 10/3 (from 13/8, tchd 4/1) btn 112.25L... mid-division and 5th from halfway, lost place from 3 out and mistake next, soon no extra, tailed off.

The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer examined Narynkol (GB), trained by Cathal Byrnes, at the request of the Stewards and reported the animal to be lame on its right fore leg post race.


Strange (or is it?), when the money comes their horses fly home, if they drift like a barge, surprise, surprise, they suddenly become lame or manage to get badly baulked in a race ... How do they always know and get it right beforehand?

Conclusions to draw:
Never back a "Byrnes" horse in a maiden that has drifted ... they are probably running down the field to get a low handicap mark and are NOT FIT.
An old dog (like Charles) never changes its tricks. ... but those of us who profit from their modus operandi already know this (and so do the Stewards)!
DevilWhoopsWinkWink

I will change my byline to:

"If we lose the money is lent, we get it back when racing is bent!"
Report slickster August 8, 2021 2:17 PM BST
Quite simply it's horse abuse. And they aren't even trying to hide it. How they have a licence to "train" these wonderful animals is a diabolical disgrace. Few years in jail is what's needed.
Report kennythebetboy August 31, 2021 12:26 AM BST
Another questionable runner:

6:15 Roscommon 30th August 2021... WAJAAHA ...

The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer examined Wajaaha, trained by Cathal Byrnes, at the request of the Stewards and reported the animal to be post race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis.

S.P. Davis, rider of Wajaaha trained by Cathal Byrnes, reported to the Clerk of Scales that his mount missed the break and never travelled

The Stewards enquired into the running and riding of Wajaaha, ridden by S.P. Davis, and trained by Cathal Byrnes

Evidence was heard from the rider and trainer concerned. S.P. Davis, stated that his instructions were to jump out handy and to do his best from there, but his mount was slowly away and never travelled. He added that his mount has recently not been as sharp out of the stalls and he asked one of the stalls handlers to put a hand to his mount when in the stalls but his mount turned his head towards the handler as the gates opened. Cathal Byrnes, confirmed the instructions given. Evidence was also heard from The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board starter Mr. Pat Malone who stated that this horse was not brought to his attention prior to starting the race, and also Mr. Keith Maher, Horse racing Ireland stalls handler who stated that he was standing along side the horse and it turned its head towards him and he palmed it away. The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Security Officer, Mr. Declan Buckley attended this enquiry. The Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer who stated that Wajaaha was post race normal. Samples were taken for further analysis. Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the Stewards referred the matter to a senior racing official for further investigation.


What was of note was the late drift from 5/2 out to 11/2 that must have raised suspicions ... usually followed by a disappointing run.

DevilWhoopsWinkWink
Report kevo August 31, 2021 11:14 AM BST
I'll never forget the day when a Charles Byrnes horse won and he was furious with the jockey as he returned to the winners enclosure, it was plain for everyone to see his rage as the jockey obviously didn't follow his "instructions".

I can't remember the jockey but it may have been P Flynn who no longer rides, as far as I can remember.

He cheats in plain sight.
Report Punter #1 August 31, 2021 2:18 PM BST
A disgrace. Backed with the firms all day but Power never went below 5/2 when most others were below 2/1. Obviously the stable get on on through betfair and Power is linked with Betfair. They knew the real money and the right people were not on. 2 things could have happened:

1. Some greedy birds in the stable got on before the others and were taught a valuable lesson.

2. The stable are trying to be a bit too cunning by laying it to drift so late to disguise future betting patterns.

Overall they are sticking their 2 fingers up at the authorities. They did not even serve their sentence for Viking Hoarder. They must be dragging a lot of trouble on themselves for such defiance. No doubt investigating journalists will be all over this practice. It would be welcome unwelcoming attention to racing as it was really poor deception to the racing public yesterday.

I believe that jockey was Tom Doyle on Solwhit who was beaten at very short odds not long after.
Report punchestown August 31, 2021 6:10 PM BST
Doyle excels on Brynes' Solwhit
Sat 29th Nov 2008, 15:43

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Jockey Tom Doyle excelled on the Charles Byrnes trained Solwhit, winner of the Ladbrokes 1800 777 888 Handicap Hurdle at Fairyhouse today.

Thick fog was the order of the day and, while visiblity was again poor, Doyle produced the talented son of Solon with a well timed challenge to lead on the run-in, for a three parts of a length win.

Winning trainer Charles Byrnes was on hand to briefly comment "Solwhit will go up in the weights following that and I've no plans from here."
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Byrnes comment after the race above tell you all you need to know about how pleased he was with Doyle @ Fairyhouse.

See here as well   
https://community.betfair.com/irish_sports/go/thread/view/94110/29796683/The...
Report olddesperado August 31, 2021 8:47 PM BST
That was some read punchestown,
I remember that thread well.

Wildmanfromborneo was some loss to the forum.
Report punchestown August 31, 2021 9:19 PM BST
olddesperado,indeed he is missed along with the forum as it was Sad
Report punchestown August 31, 2021 9:20 PM BST
workrider,are you still in touch with the Wildman?
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