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MC Roller
28 Jul 21 19:59
Date Joined: 19 Apr 02
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Report ALIEN SEX FIEND July 28, 2021 9:35 PM BST
How about the World Championship of biting your toe nails, no betting however a most entertaining sport.
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND July 28, 2021 9:35 PM BST
Just confirmed that BT have bought the rights.
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 28, 2021 9:50 PM BST
At the end of the day, even if you don't buy into the whole team thing, its still competitive horse racing for decent prize money. Not sure why so many people have a problem with it?
Report Movewiththetimes July 28, 2021 9:51 PM BST
Agree at least they all be trying.
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 28, 2021 9:54 PM BST
Yeah, you'd like to think so for the prize money on offer. I'll certainly be watching and punting on the races if the right betting opportunity arises.
Report ItsMeSwaddle July 28, 2021 9:55 PM BST
Agree with the 2 above.
Report Ramruma July 28, 2021 9:59 PM BST
The cricket equivalent, The Hundred, does seem to be winning over the sceptics, at least for the action if not for the teams and gimmicky changes like 5-ball overs.

And that sounds a bit like the Shergar Cup. Ignore the competition and we have a great day's racing with a competitive card.

So maybe something like that will happen with The Racing League.
Report themightymac July 28, 2021 10:00 PM BST
It can`t be any worse than the Shergar Cup.
Report penzance July 28, 2021 10:01 PM BST
5/1 winner here pays the same as a 5/1 winner
anywhere.People should give it a chance and
see what it's like before moaning.
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 28, 2021 10:13 PM BST
I've read that some of the smaller trainers weren't invited or sent a letter with details on how to sign up? I don't know the full facts of the matter. But maybe in future they could create another division for trainers with smaller strings and lower rated horses? The prize money would be half of Division 1 but the beauty of it, you could have a relegation/promotion thing going on with 3 teams going up from this Division 2 to replace the 3 in the bottom of Division 1. This would add a whole new competitive edge to the league IMO. There is definitely scope for something like this if this first season proves popular.
Report ItsMeSwaddle July 28, 2021 10:15 PM BST
Maybe this is covered elsewhere?

Are team tactics permitted?

Say for example something needs a strong pace over 7f, something on the same team sets of bullet train esque, ruining its chances in the process?
Report ItsMeSwaddle July 28, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Report themightymac July 28, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Good idea Whippin P.

but Money goes to Money. Always has.
Report themightymac July 28, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Good idea Whippin P.

but Money goes to Money. Always has.
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 28, 2021 10:18 PM BST
I'm pretty sure each team is only permitted the one runner per race, Swad?
Report ItsMeSwaddle July 28, 2021 10:19 PM BST
Ah ok shows you how much ive read up.
Report angrybryan July 28, 2021 10:39 PM BST
If every point counts does this mean the jocks will actually be riding their horses out for a place instead of pretending to.This opens up an exciting new form of wagering  for punters. It's called an each way bet!.It's probably advisable that the BHA watch these races they maybe able to spot the difference between a jockey imitating a statue in a finish and a one who's actually riding his mount
out for a place.
Report Cork Langer July 28, 2021 10:40 PM BST
I understand the criticism leveled against this new competition and that it is not for everyone but I am happy to keep an open mind until we see if the "enthusiasm" for it from the professionals is real and maintained throughout the six week period, then and only then should it be judged and reviewed.
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 29, 2021 12:00 AM BST
Might start a thread for the card if anyone is interested?
Report TheAnorak July 29, 2021 8:15 AM BST
The reason smaller stables haven't got involved is that they wanted a maximum of four trainers per team. Since each team has to produce thirty horses capable of running in a 0-90 class of race, unless you can contribute five or six such horses, you don't fit in.
Report sparrow July 29, 2021 8:17 AM BST
If its enhanced prize money then lower grade racing should be included.
Report ashleigh July 29, 2021 8:40 AM BST
can't wait for the team talk from racing manager lizzie kelly for team racehorse lotto.Laugh
Report Angoose July 29, 2021 10:32 AM BST
All Class 3 handicaps on this card, will all the cards be like this ?
Report Angoose July 29, 2021 10:35 AM BST
In July 2021 for 6 weeks, 12 teams will go head to head every Thursday evening in 6 races each worth £50k in prize money and a total of 100 points.

Points will be awarded in each race  from 25 points to the winner down to 1 point for 10th place.

The team with the most points after 36 races wins the Racing League.

So that’s 6 weeks, 12 teams, 36 races, 3,600 points and over £2m in prize money up for grabs.

Each team consists of 2-4 trainers, 30 horses and 3 jockeys.

Team members, including jockeys, will wear team colours so you can instantly recognise their runner in every race.
Report Angoose July 29, 2021 10:37 AM BST
Race Day 1 - Newcastle - 29th July
Race Day 2 - Doncaster - 5th August
Race Day 3 - Lingfield - 12th August
Race Day 4 - Royal Windsor - 19th August
Race Day 5 - Lingfield - 26th August
Race Day 6 - Newcastle - 2nd September
Report sixtwosix July 29, 2021 10:43 AM BST
The cricket equivalent, The Hundred, does seem to be winning over the sceptics,

Thousands of free tickets and propaganda from the Beeb more like.
Report Angoose July 29, 2021 10:44 AM BST
Team ThoroughBid
Andrew Balding, Richard Hannon  Jockeys - Hayley Turner, Oisin Murphy, Sean Levey

Racing Manager - Cornelius Lysaght

Team BullionVault
George Baker, David Menuisier, Gary Moore, Amanda Perrett - Jockeys -  Jim Crowley, Hector Crouch, Pat Cosgrave

Racing Manager - George Baker

eToro Racing
Tim Easterby, Richard Fahey - Jockeys - Paddy Mathers, David Allan, Paul Hanagan

Racing Manager - William Easterby

Goat Racing
Tom Clover, Charlie Fellowes, Hugo Palmer, George Scott - Jockeys - Laura Pearson, James Doyle, Callum Shepherd

Racing Manager - Charlie Austin

Team ODDSbible
Roger Charlton, Alan King, Martyn Meade, Brian Meehan - Jockeys - Jason Watson, Martin Dwyer, Thore Hammer Hansen 

Racing Manager - Sam Sangster

Team Ireland
Donnacha O’Brien, Joseph O’Brien - Jockeys - Gavin Ryan, David Egan, Dylan Browne McMonagle

Racing Manager - Kevin Blake

Team Arena
Mick Appleby, Michael Dods, Paul Midgley, David O’Meara - Jockeys - Danny Tudhope, Cam Hardie, Paul Mulrennan

Racing Managers - Chris & Martin Dixon

Team Swish
Clive Cox, Ed Walker, Charlie Hills, Jamie Osborne - Jockeys - Adam Kirby, Saffie Osborne, Kieran Shoemark

Racing Manager - Rosie Tapner

Team talkSPORT
Michael Bell, Ed Dunlop, James Fanshawe, Roger Varian - Jockeys - Hollie Doyle, Jack Mitchell, Cieren Fallon

Racing Managers - Rupert Bell & Alan Brazil

Remulate Racing
Mick Channon, Paul & Oliver Cole, Eve Johnson Houghton, Keith Dalgleish - Jockeys - George Bass, Rossa Ryan, Charles Bishop

Racing Manager - Matt Gibbens

Team Racehorse Lotto
George Boughey, James Ferguson, William Knight, Stuart Williams - Jockeys - Nicola Currie, Marco Ghiani, Daniel Muscutt

Racing Manager - Lizzie Kelly

Newmarket Red
Robert Cowell, John Gosden, Sir Mark Prescott, David Simcock -  Jockeys - Frankie Dettori, Luke Morris, Jamie Spencer

Racing Manager - David Simcock

It's got to be Goat Racing for the title Excited
Report The Management July 29, 2021 10:47 AM BST
I just put a line straight through any card that is made up entirely of Handicaps - even if they are Class 3 Handicaps.

The fact that it's starting out at Newcastle - a rancid course where the chances of a truly run race (in any race up to 1 mile) are miniscule - just makes it even more of a bookies benefit imo
Report salmon spray July 29, 2021 10:58 AM BST
I agree with The Management and am emigrating to Saratoga tonight.
Report know all July 29, 2021 10:58 AM BST
its a joke how to kill the game, betting shop fodder handicaps to go with the other sh.t racing
Report angrybryan July 29, 2021 12:09 PM BST
This jamboree is costing Two million pounds which unless its fully sponsor funded will come out of the general prize money fund. It will leave even less cash for the class five and six races as the BHA will not want to reduce the prize money for the upper tier handicaps.
Report sparrow July 29, 2021 12:14 PM BST
That was my earlier point angrybryan regarding lower grade racing being excluded instead of ensuring they got at least a fair share of this extra prize money.
Report Joe Lampton July 29, 2021 12:17 PM BST
Horse racing is about the throughbred and they should be front and centre of the sport and not be dressed up in some gimmicky nonsense. Some of these trainers and jockeys actually seem to think that "punters" like handicaps and need contrived marketing rubbish to take an interest. We (along with Ireland) have the best racing in the world. The history and tradition of the sport and the variancies are what make it what it is. I resent this dumbed down nonsense which is short termism pure and simple. Stick to the core product and stop believing what the marketing men and bookmakers tell you what people want.
Less Racing
Better quality
Less handicaps
No marketing rubbish...the history and tradition is what makes it.
Report angrybryan July 29, 2021 12:33 PM BST
Joe you are exactly right.But sadly we live in a world where instant thrills are the order of the day for the majority of people. video form research,form study,thats borrring.
Report salmon spray July 29, 2021 1:03 PM BST
Excellent post Joe.
Hope the bike is still working      Wink
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 29, 2021 1:56 PM BST
Team colours?

Report Whippin Piccadilly July 29, 2021 2:22 PM BST
Well, it just wouldn't work with maiden & group races. Some people on here are the same ones who moan about small field group races. Now we have competitive races, still moaning. lol

Joe, you're right, Britain and Ireland has the best Horse Racing in the world but unfortunately some of the worst Prize Money, especially for middle of the road races. Anything to boost the prize money for these type of races is a good thing and hopefully in future they introduce another Division for 0-80 types and for those trainers/owners with smaller strings. Even with half prize money of 12.5K to winner, it would be a positive move. Also there are only 6 fixtures in this League so even if you're not a fan of the concept, its hardly worth getting your knickers in a twist over. It's still horse racing, they've not changed the rules!
Report pumphol. July 29, 2021 2:37 PM BST
Six decent enough hcps over  £150,000 split between the winners & over £70,000 split between the runners up & people still have to come on here & moan.
Report HappyHibby July 29, 2021 3:04 PM BST
day 1 of this fabulous new venture for horse racing...

and what is Chris Dixon doing...?

at Goodwood doing one of his endless list of jobs of course...

but no doubt Chris will be telling all his flock of fans what a wonderful thing this is for horse racing...

and no doubt some will believe him.
Report The Management July 29, 2021 3:07 PM BST
I'm not moaning! - Each to their own, live and let live, everybody has their own preferences and/or specialisms.

Amongst other things, I like all weather racing and I loved the Fibresand - but I can understand anyone that doesn't appreciate it or like to bet on it. Live and let live - each to their own.

But I am never going to encourage, welcome or embrace a card (be it Flat, Jumps or All Weather) that consists entirely of handicaps - and I would never attend such a card. Then again, it's not aimed at people like me - it's aimed at this (mythical) audience that they think is out there if only they could find them and attract them!
Report HappyHibby July 29, 2021 3:18 PM BST
28 Jul 21 20:51 

Agree at least they all be trying.


oh of course they will be.
Report jumper3 July 29, 2021 3:24 PM BST
Zero interest. Racing for me has to be quality, not this below average stuff.
Report HappyHibby July 29, 2021 3:27 PM BST
one thing i can guarantee tonight...

the Sky Sports Hype Machine will be set to triple MAX.

not that i will be watching it but i can guarantee it will happen.
Report tony6499 July 29, 2021 3:33 PM BST
You'd think whoever was organising it would have realised that today is Goodwood so any decent jockey will be there for their retained stable/owner. It's like the football league starting with all the top players away playing at the World Cup, makes it look tinpot
Report HappyHibby July 29, 2021 6:27 PM BST
car cam until 1 furlong to go...

utter $h1te.
Report JetLoneStar July 29, 2021 6:29 PM BST
**** cam, BS shergar cup-esque colours, nah ill stick to Epsom tonight.
Report xmoneyx July 29, 2021 6:41 PM BST
fedex cup golf,?
Report spyker July 29, 2021 6:47 PM BST
This place really does get more old farty by the second. It is now basically unreadable for anyone that isn't a stuck in the mud old fart. Lets all sit round our tins of spam and reminisce about steam trains...
Report JetLoneStar July 29, 2021 6:52 PM BST
Imagine that, a gambling forum that want to make money rather than be treated to a poor mans Shergar Cup that most punters avoid anyway.
Report angrybryan July 29, 2021 7:07 PM BST
From an old fart. Heres to the future with class eleven races taking place every 180 seconds running for a packet of incontinence pads!.
Report Daryl Revok July 29, 2021 7:30 PM BST
Enzo's fired right up for the Racing League
Report Daryl Revok July 29, 2021 7:31 PM BST
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This place really does get more old farty by the second. It is now basically unreadable for anyone that isn't a stuck in the mud old fart. Lets all sit round our tins of spam and reminisce about steam trains...

I spat out my Werther's original reading that Laugh
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