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24 Jul 21 17:02
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Report doorman99 July 24, 2021 6:24 PM BST
Please can someone put the Racing Post story up?
Report MJK July 24, 2021 6:44 PM BST
Are they staying in Ireland or moving to the UK? Could be a lot more shorties for Jacob to get beaten on.
Report mrcombustible July 24, 2021 7:12 PM BST
Big story about nothing, not worth posting.
2 horses involved. doesn't say where they have gone to
Report Ramruma July 24, 2021 7:15 PM BST
Be funny if they move the horses to Sneezy Foster when Gordon gets back.
Report blackbarn July 24, 2021 11:14 PM BST
Mr Combustible - You presumably have not read the article below. This IS a big story despite just "2 horses". The story indicates that the owners were misled by Elliot, who has hitherto absolved himself from blame.

By Peter Scargill and Chris Cook
5:30PM, JUL 24 2021
Leading owners Simon Munir and Isaac Souede, one of jump racing's most prominent partnerships, have removed their horses and cut all ties with Gordon Elliott's Cullentra House Stables.

The two horses – Saint D'Oroux and Homme D'Un Soir – this week left the yard which has been overseen by Denise Foster while Elliott is serving a six-month suspension for bringing racing into disrepute, the owners' racing manager Anthony Bromley confirmed on Friday.

Responding to questions, Bromley said: "Yes, the two horses have left Gordon this week."

Munir, 56, and Souede, 69, have had horses in training with Elliott since 2013 and enjoyed success with the likes of Grade 3 winner Missy Tata and Borice, winner of the 2019 Galway Plate.

Borice was one of 13 horses the pair had in training with Elliott during the 2019-20 season – up from an average of four horses for the previous six years – although that number dropped to four last season as Willie Mullins took over as the owners' main trainer in Ireland.

Munir and Souede, whose colours are most readily associated with the likes of Grade 1 scorers Bristol De Mai, Footpad and Sceau Royal, had also switched Vyta Du Roc to Elliott for the final runs of his career prior to his retirement from racing at the end of 2019.

The grey was named as one of four former racehorses appearing in covert footage filmed at the F Drury & Sons abattoir near Swindon in late 2019 and early 2020 that was broadcast on the BBC's Panorama on Monday.

In a statement to Panorama, Elliott outlined that Vyta Du Roc had been gifted to another rider at the end of his career "in line with the owners' wishes" and that he had sent no animals to the abattoir, which is 350 miles from the trainer's base in County Meath.

When contacted by Panorama, the owners of Vyta Du Roc said they were "shocked and furious" he had ended up being transported with 15 other horses to the abattoir featured on the programme.

Speaking to the Racing Post following the Panorama broadcast, Bromley confirmed Vyta Du Roc had been gifted to a member of Elliott's staff with the owners being "satisfied he was going to be suitably rehomed".

"All of us are obviously shocked and devastated by the information that the programme brought to light," he said.

"After his last race for us, we requested that Vyta's trainer, Gordon Elliott, find a caring home for him to be used as a riding horse for his retirement. Vyta was ultimately gifted to a part-time rider of Gordon's in early December 2019.

"We were happy to proceed on that basis, being satisfied Vyta was going to be suitably rehomed by a person who, like us, loves horses. It is for this reason that we chose to gift Vyta rather than to sell him.

"We are greatly saddened by the whole situation."

This story is exclusive to Members' Club Ultimate subscribers. Read more Members' Club news stories here
Report Too Easy July 25, 2021 7:38 AM BST
it appears Elliott is the scapegoat here
Report cardifffc July 25, 2021 9:40 AM BST
too easy...he is hardly the innocent party
Report cardifffc July 25, 2021 9:45 AM BST
Elliot told the panorama programme the horse was given to a horse trader but the owners were told he was given to a part time of them is lying
Report johnwayne July 25, 2021 10:01 AM BST
spot on cardiffc, Elliot is no scapegoat
Report doorman99 July 25, 2021 12:57 PM BST
In France as well as a passport all horses have to be sold with an owner card. Munir and Souede will not let any horse be sold privately with its card because they don't want them winning for anyone else! So they can't even go as a riding horse in case that person sells them back to racing! So a one way trip for those horses like a once raced, time needed perfectly sound 4yo once saw . Dealer to his credit was very miffed and trying to find an obscure hacking home for it unbeknown to them but without the card it couldn't even go to a local show . Might have been a good chaser/pointer here. Cruellest and meanest owners in racing. And total liars re the racing post story.
Report cardifffc July 25, 2021 1:10 PM BST
doorman99...honest gordon is telling the truth then
Report doorman99 July 25, 2021 1:11 PM BST
Also when the decent owners removed their horses after the Elliott fiasco what did they do? Said nothing and left their horses there.
Report doorman99 July 25, 2021 1:14 PM BST
Ya to meat dealer cardiff. As told to Panorama but leaving out the meat bit.
Report doorman99 July 25, 2021 1:15 PM BST
trader/dealer same thing.
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