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FOYLESWAR
22 Jul 21 17:49
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only a handful of runners but a top class renewal ,love ,adayar,lone eagle ,mishriff,wondeful tonight and broome ,love around 6/4 ish  and adayar have obvious chances  and will be hard to beat lone eagle went close in the irish derby and with frankie up will be popular ,wonderful tonite may  rain she needs  but will it be soft enough for her? at the prices my early bets have been for the gosdens mishriff who has a smart turn of foot and was in front too soon in the eclipse in a tactical race and prob better saved for a late run off a fast pace which he may get here  joint top on the ratings and can be backed at 9/1 he looks  value to me . opinions encouraged !
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Report FOYLESWAR July 22, 2021 7:42 PM BST
come on guys say summit even if its bollax foyles ! i am not easily offended !
Report stewarty b July 22, 2021 7:45 PM BST
Short and sweet here FOYLES .Adayar will be carrying my money as it's there for all to see the form but it is a 3yo. A 3yo that will take care of this lot imho. GL.
Report stewarty b July 22, 2021 7:48 PM BST
Actually, your horse could easily be in the mix FOYLES hence a place lay of Love.
Report FOYLESWAR July 22, 2021 7:51 PM BST
good luck stewy yeah adayar was my first thought but looking through all the form and reruns  just think mishriff is the value ,but i am out of form the last 3 or 4 weeks so you may well be right .
Report stewarty b July 22, 2021 7:55 PM BST
Not my FAV race FOYLES and I wouldn't change my mind if I was you.
Report FOYLESWAR July 22, 2021 7:59 PM BST
no wont change my mind stewy ,we all know what happens when ya change yer mind ,the betting gods step in and punish you !
Report stewarty b July 22, 2021 8:04 PM BST
Severely !!
Report Guernsey Sunbed July 22, 2021 8:21 PM BST
Adayar receiving 8lbs from Love and 11lbs from Muishriff. A really useful age allowance  at this stage of the season.

For that reason alone Adayar must have a terrific chance.

GLA
Report Guernsey Sunbed July 22, 2021 8:21 PM BST
Adayar receiving 8lbs from Love and 11lbs from Muishriff. A really useful age allowance  at this stage of the season.

For that reason alone Adayar must have a terrific chance.

GLA
Report G Hall July 22, 2021 8:41 PM BST
I don't think Love will run if ground is not favourable, but adayar must be the bet
Report differentdrum July 22, 2021 10:29 PM BST
The obvious bet was Wonderful Tonight. If the rain comes she has every chance, if it doesn't she doesn't run and you get your money back.
Report LoyalHoncho July 23, 2021 6:19 AM BST
I hear they are opening a new pub on Jim Baxter Way ( formerly Wembley Way ).
To be called "The Three Penalties".
Very bitter beer to be given away on opening day.
Report differentdrum July 23, 2021 1:02 PM BST
As suggested the mover has been Wonderful Tonight as a bet to nothing. Unfortunately, at the moment it is looking more like nothing, but you can't be certain with thunderstorms.
Report Gracie July 23, 2021 5:34 PM BST
Love for me. They won’t run her if ground isnt right. I can’t see by her, she’s amazing.  There’s no way the derby winner has her class….


Famous last words
Report EastLower Gooner July 23, 2021 5:55 PM BST
Waiting on the going weather before deciding on if to pull the trigger on Mishriff.

But he can throw in a stinker…which is my worry lol

No hiding place tomorrow…he’s got to travel and roll up to them like Harbinger and then stomp on them.
Report EastLower Gooner July 23, 2021 6:08 PM BST
Also this race could be a total non event if Ryan gets the opportunity to take a walk in front on Love…re Highland Reel

The expectation is the other jockeys won’t let him do that but can we really trust them? Hmm

Oisen and Egan are smart kids so maybe but then again…
Report themightymac July 23, 2021 6:09 PM BST
Got to be with the classy 3-y-0 at this time of the year. I agree with stewarty.
Report stewarty b July 23, 2021 7:03 PM BST
Does anyone know if it's likely to have an A v B in the race tomorrow?
Report LoyalHoncho July 23, 2021 7:33 PM BST
I would imagine so stewarty but they don't put them up until a couple of hours before.
For me it's all about which Adayer turns up and that's impossible to forecast.
We know that 5 time Gp 1 winning Love handles track and going so were the match between these two I'd favour her as we have no idea how Adayer will handle the ground.  Alenquer form would seem to favour Adayer over Lone Eagle but again on different going.
So, I'll watch only I think and it looks worth watching if all six stay in.
Report impossible123 July 23, 2021 8:30 PM BST
I think Mishriff is here on a fact-finding mission (whether he stays 12f or not) as another renewal against St Mark's Basilica in the Juddmonte will probably end in a similar result as The Eclipse. I'm no fan of Adayar; An AOB 1-2 perhaps.
Report chavman July 23, 2021 10:03 PM BST
adayer for me.
Report impossible123 July 24, 2021 7:05 AM BST
Any torrential rain during the night or present moment? Much appreciated.
Report Trusty July 24, 2021 7:16 AM BST
I dont think it has rained yet, scheduled now for around 8AM but not expected to be that heavy until 11AM.
Report ashleigh July 24, 2021 7:26 AM BST
light rain now, with showers this morning and possible thunderstorms this afternoon.
Report elisjohn July 24, 2021 8:14 AM BST
whaw its only the 2nd  time in 10 years the derby winner has gone for thisSurprised
Report elisjohn July 24, 2021 8:31 AM BST
well if its promising thunderstorms and perhaps torrential rain in the afternoon  why not move the race too much earlier
Report Schraderbrau July 24, 2021 9:12 AM BST
Frightnin' tunder 'n' lightnin' put back to 6pm. Trying to remember off the top of my head the derby winners that have contested this since the start of the 21st century.  Workforce, Kris Kin, Antony Van Dyk and one more I think. Golden Horn would have but scratched after heavy raindrops.
Report Schraderbrau July 24, 2021 9:15 AM BST
oh durrrrbrain, I've got it now. Anyone want to fill in the gap?
Report FOYLESWAR July 24, 2021 9:16 AM BST
i like a few at decent prices in this type of race  and have also  backed broome each way ,could lead and gets the trip well although has a few pounds to find on the ratings but is consistent could lead  and should run his race
Report FOYLESWAR July 24, 2021 9:21 AM BST
galileo magnifico
Report ashleigh July 24, 2021 9:38 AM BST
2mm of rain so far, decision on wonderful tonight running at 2-30pm.
Report cosmik debris July 24, 2021 9:48 AM BST
Going G/F and only minimal rain forecast to race time. I can't see Wonderful Tonight running. Adayar 3/1 is big.
Report A_T July 24, 2021 9:53 AM BST
yeah not much rain forecast for today
Report A_T July 24, 2021 9:55 AM BST
backed broome each way ,could lead

yeah i see Broome setting a steady pace with Love not far behind - she's a guineas winner so have to think she will outpace the others at the end of the race
Report stewarty b July 24, 2021 10:29 AM BST
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Not my FAV race FOYLES and I wouldn't change my mind if I was you.



It looks like I might not follow my own advice FOYLES..
Report Angoose July 24, 2021 10:39 AM BST
Adaya bidding to become the first since Galileo in 2001 to complete Derby/King George double and it would be very poignant given Galileo's recent demise.

Alternatively, it's ten years since Amy Winehouse passed away and she enjoyed a bit of Love Excited
Report sparrow July 24, 2021 11:00 AM BST
It has to be the 3 yr old improver Lone Eagle for me.
Report Hibore July 24, 2021 11:03 AM BST
I think the Derby is best form on offer. 3/1 Adayar getting all that weight is very generous.
Only concern is Broome going a slow/steady pace which wouldn’t play into Adayar’s strengths.
Report Schraderbrau July 24, 2021 11:26 AM BST
It's the form triangle of Adayar/Hurricane Lane/Lone Eagle that is tripping me up. We know HL lost front shoes in the Derby but don't really know if that cost him those lengths. For Lone Eagle to then run so impressively in the Irish derby with HL subsequent thrashing of his rivals in France makes it very difficult to judge. Love should improve again back up to 12f although the jury is still out on her and she is short. The others I don't give a chance but respect the form they are bringing into the race. It's a top lineup, really looking forward to it and if someone gave me £20 I'd stick it on Lone Eagle. Frankie will go ahead of Lester Piggott if he wins, both legends of the sport. Much respect.
Report barstool July 24, 2021 11:47 AM BST
1st Adayar
2nd Lone Eagle
Report tanglefoot July 24, 2021 11:57 AM BST
Love,Love,Love as the Beatles sang Wink
Report Angoose July 24, 2021 11:59 AM BST
There's nothing you can do that can't be done Excited
Report Emitdeb July 24, 2021 1:11 PM BST
Looking at the price of Lone Eagle tumbling... Frankie must have said something positive?
Report The Dragon July 24, 2021 1:15 PM BST
im with you foylesCool
Report ghostlygunner July 24, 2021 1:42 PM BST
looks like i'm alone but i think love is a cracking price now
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 24, 2021 2:22 PM BST
nr wunderfull TONITE
Wink
Report acey deucy July 24, 2021 2:24 PM BST
I have been on Love every time she has run and dont think i will be changing my mind Today but far from confident.Plain
Report EastLower Gooner July 24, 2021 2:38 PM BST
Now the market has reopened…backed Mishriff ew 15/2

Shame about WT but I think they can map a lovely route to the Arc now.
Report A_T July 24, 2021 2:45 PM BST
To win Adayar may well have to make all the running - Broome won't be making it a test, Love and Mishriff will be waiting, Lone Eagle will probably try to do the same as in Ireland going for home early.
Report Dr Crippen July 24, 2021 2:55 PM BST
I don't like the Epsom Derby form.

Here I go again, I hear those trumpets blow again.

All aglow again, taking a chance on Love.
Report LoyalHoncho July 24, 2021 2:56 PM BST
So five runners.  Pathetic.  Following four in the Eclipse.
They're racehorses so race them in the best races!
Report The Dragon July 24, 2021 2:58 PM BST
yes gone for love also with the smaller bet on ops selection
Report Cork Langer July 24, 2021 3:04 PM BST
I do like the Epsom form but still feel Love will get the better of Adayar today, just do not believe Adayar will be at his best on this fast ground going around Ascot, so much so that I have laid Adayar in both win and place markets and backed Love to win and in f/c with Broome & Mishriff, Adayar to finish fourth and Lone Eagle fifth, ambitious perhaps but you have to take a view...!
Report LoyalHoncho July 24, 2021 3:21 PM BST
Not betting just watching.  Too much doubt about ground, weight concession and race pace.
Can't for the life of me pick the race pacesetter/leader.  Pedestrian pace is very likely and thus a false run race.
Report EastLower Gooner July 24, 2021 3:23 PM BST
And a saver on the Eagle win.
Report tanglefoot July 24, 2021 3:28 PM BST
Money for Love came at 11 bells
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 24, 2021 3:32 PM BST
Love not fit!!!

LAY

Shocked
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk July 24, 2021 3:33 PM BST
Changed my mind a million times on this race
Cheeky tenner on Broome for me
GL all
Report impossible123 July 24, 2021 3:33 PM BST
Love is all around; Mishriff less effective over 12f; Adayar Derby win inconclusive. If Broome is improving he'd surprise.
Report ashleigh July 24, 2021 3:34 PM BST
backed mishriff, 10/1 too big.
Report Angela Rebecchi July 24, 2021 3:34 PM BST
Same. Smashed on it each way.
Report impossible123 July 24, 2021 3:35 PM BST
Has racial correctness gone barmy? Even an ethnic rep is tipping in the King's game at Ascot. I'm gobsmacked!
Report KeMoH July 24, 2021 3:36 PM BST
Love will find it difficult to give this derby winner 8lbs. adayar for me
Report Lucky Luciano July 24, 2021 3:37 PM BST
Laying adayar
Report hulk23 July 24, 2021 3:38 PM BST
gone adayar, should be a cracker .. GL
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! July 24, 2021 3:41 PM BST
lURVE IS
finished

Grin
Report FOYLESWAR July 24, 2021 3:41 PM BST
well done winners
Report hulk23 July 24, 2021 3:41 PM BST
hacks up, hope you saw the post luciano ..
Report Hibore July 24, 2021 3:41 PM BST
Lots went wrong and he bolted in. Boom !
Report Lucky Luciano July 24, 2021 3:42 PM BST
Credit to adayar
Report Whippin Piccadilly July 24, 2021 3:42 PM BST
First time Love takes on proper horses......
Report EastLower Gooner July 24, 2021 3:42 PM BST
Wd Derby Backers

Thought Mishriff would run by him especially as he was lit up early.

Fourth 2nd for me today lol
Report sparrow July 24, 2021 3:42 PM BST
Considering how hard he pulled early he did well.
Report Cork Langer July 24, 2021 3:42 PM BST
wd winners, gave back some of the Derby winnings, should have stayed loyal...!
Report Dr Crippen July 24, 2021 3:44 PM BST
Well done winners.
Report brians July 24, 2021 3:46 PM BST
Amazing how certian horses run after the magic carrots have been sniffed by the authorities.
Report brians July 24, 2021 3:46 PM BST
Certain
Report liberator of the oppressed July 24, 2021 3:46 PM BST
Broome poor horse why continue to whack it it looked knacked after that poor ride.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 24, 2021 3:47 PM BST
Love giving Derby winner 8lb



Probably will do better with
stronger pace too

Mishriff gave him decent race
gosden reckoned 1 1/4 miles
better for him.. He knew!
Report impossible123 July 24, 2021 3:47 PM BST
Love was over-lauded. A good win for Adayar. Shame Appleby was pinged and not present; the owner can remain in Dubai permanently for all I care.
Report Dr Crippen July 24, 2021 3:49 PM BST
O'Brien mentioned Love's weight just before the race.
There's your answer.

Well done Adayar, but I don't think it beat much today again.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- July 24, 2021 3:54 PM BST
The paddock expert thought love looked fitter

O brien knew it was heavier.


Adayar looks well developed for a 3yo
so the weight concession is handy
Report LoyalHoncho July 24, 2021 3:56 PM BST
Adayar very impressive.  Will he and Basilica ever meet - good formlines between them and Mishriff now.
Report stewarty b July 24, 2021 4:10 PM BST
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Not my FAV race FOYLES and I wouldn't change my mind if I was you.


It looks like I might not follow my own advice FOYLES..




I didn't change my mind FOYLES, I just didn't have a bet.Cry
Report elisjohn July 24, 2021 8:48 PM BST
1st horse race that ive actually enjoyed watching in ages, really was
Report Deptford July 24, 2021 9:49 PM BST
Best horse won but Moore was filth yet again, a truly piss poor tactican
Report Tiger Tiger July 24, 2021 9:58 PM BST
Agreed the best horse won, but ffs, get a life ref Moore eh?
Report Deptford July 24, 2021 10:17 PM BST
Why? he is shocking, he never gave the horse any chance at all, a truly diabolical ride, yet again
Report Tiger Tiger July 24, 2021 10:28 PM BST
Have a word with yourself man, are you laying Regal Reality tomorrow?
Report LoyalHoncho July 25, 2021 1:27 AM BST
He was caught sleeping in my view.  He surely knew in running that Mishriff would have to come round wide, of him ( and everybody else ), so why didn't he force the issue himself and move out earlier while rounding the bend?  I thought it was a poor ride from him and I normally defend him on here.
Report Tiger Tiger July 25, 2021 1:29 AM BST
Walofs.
Report LoyalHoncho July 25, 2021 1:31 AM BST
Laugh  Agreed and if I was you I'd stop posting.
Report Tiger Tiger July 25, 2021 1:32 AM BST
Next time that you post something useful will be the first time.
Report Movewiththetimes July 25, 2021 8:31 AM BST
Brilliant winner and time backs it up, for me must go close in the Arc with ground no problem.
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