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ItsMeSwaddle
16 Jun 21 17:41
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Well done to anyone that made it through to the knockouts! I hope everyone enjoyed the 2nd day of action. I also hope that the settlement is right, shout up if it isn’t, ty.

The bottom match was a very interesting one today, Undertaker got off to a flier with a 300 pointer courtesy of his NAP – Kemari for the boys in the blue. A Strong win only choice saw him take command, but Lucky Luciano hit back with a huge 22/1 EW way winner! A standside run from Detorri secured him 275 points, which turned out not to be enough, LL can consider himself very unlucky not to qualify with 275 points on the board.

On the other end of the spectrum, I owe an apology to TN Mafia, I accused him of picking a horse that was due to run next week, that bit is true, but it was indeed withdrawn from today. Just 44 points (LOVE NAP) was the lowest total to go through today into the quarters, that’s the way to do it, best of luck!

Stocks must know a good thing when he sees one, he struck twice today with fair priced NAP and NB efforts, just to make sure of success he played them each way! His total of 317.5 was the highest of the round well done.

Good luck to the final 8 tomorrow. Here is the draw:


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Report stocks June 16, 2021 7:56 PM BST
Match C
1540 Gloria Mindy
1615 Twilight Payment EW
1700 Air To Air EW Nap
1735 Surefire
1810 Biesla EW NB
Res 1505 Mohaafeth
Report stocks June 16, 2021 7:56 PM BST
1540 should say Gloria Mundi
Report Deptford June 16, 2021 8:01 PM BST
Got wait see how much rain they get.
Report Lucky Luciano June 16, 2021 8:45 PM BST
Gutted to go out with 275 pts but thanks for running the comp swads, enjoyed taking part.
Good luck to the undertaker going forward
Report Callisto-moon June 16, 2021 8:48 PM BST
I would like to offer the winner a super platium tipping membership for fre to the winner.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 16, 2021 8:55 PM BST
I can see that coming in handy when this place offers a back and lay option Wink
Report stocks June 16, 2021 9:10 PM BST
Tha you Callisto but I already run one two would be greedy
Report undertaker June 16, 2021 9:11 PM BST
I do feel I need to point out that the SP of my winner was subject to a rule 4, and after this has been applied, Lucky Luciano actually scored more points than me. Now I appreciate that rule 4s are not covered in the rules of this comp (because let's face it, you can't cover every eventuality) but I would feel uncomfortable progressing to the next round without pointing this out.

Swadds, you are the organiser, so the final decision is yours, but as I see it, you have 3 options:

1) Stick with your original settlement, ignore the R4 and I progress
2) Apply the R4 and Lucky Luciano progresses
3) Nominate an early race for tomorrow as a tie-breaker

Whatever you decide, I will go with, but I felt I should fess up to the R4 situation.

Lucky Luciano, I guess you probably spotted the R4 situation as well, fair play to you for congratulating me without pointing it out.
Report stocks June 16, 2021 9:14 PM BST
Fair play undertaker Class act
Report Deptford June 16, 2021 9:15 PM BST
Good man undertaker.
Report madhatters June 16, 2021 9:20 PM BST
Fair play for spotting Undie

The rules were set up to be as clear and simple for all

SETTLEMENT:

Similar to the last comp, STAKE WILL NOT BE RETURNED ON WINNINGS BETS, this is to discourage the use of short prices where possible, each way betting is permitted BUT WILL BE SETTLED TO STANDARD NUMBER OF PLACES TO ¼  OF THE ODDS FOR EVERY SELECTION JUST TO HELP THE SIMPLE SETTLER SAVE A BIT OF TIME. You cannot take a price and all bets are settled to official SP.

So in the light of the rules you go forward
UL on lucky
But bit like Var nowt always fair
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 16, 2021 9:46 PM BST
Ah thanks for pointing this out I will run a quick poll, anyone that has played gets to vote, please guys just simply go for 1,2, or 3 as you have listed. The most popular opinion will progress, sorry that it comes down to this.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 16, 2021 9:52 PM BST
Madhatters: 1
Report stocks June 16, 2021 10:05 PM BST
1
Report TheNorfolkMafia June 16, 2021 10:06 PM BST
Rule 4 applies to all bets - deduction 15p in the pound

2)
Report DeSSieReborn June 16, 2021 10:06 PM BST
the rule 4 is applied because a new market couldn't be formed thus the SP is a false SP until that rule 4 deduction is applied. I wouldn't want to lose in LLs situation, and wouldn't want to win in The Undertakers (No offence Undertaker). I applaud you Undertaker for your honesty, but my vote has to be 2.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps June 16, 2021 10:09 PM BST
Callisto-moon16 Jun 21
I would like to offer the winner a super platium tipping membership for fre to the winner.

how many winners is there? brains of a slug.
Report posy June 16, 2021 10:10 PM BST
1m6f, Class 1, £118,400
Going: Good To Firm
6. Kemari
15/2
14. Wordsworth
100/30F
12. Stowell
12/1
13 ran NR: Kyprios (withdrawn, upset in stalls), Zinc White (unsuitable ground) R4: Kyprios was withdrawn. Price at time of withdrawal 9/2. Rule 4 applies to all bets - deduction 15p in the Pound.


My view is option 2    Just think if it had been in a race where there was an odds on favourite withdrawn just before the off;it would be a nonsense not to  apply a rule 4.
Huge credit to undertaker for raising the matter.
Report penzance June 16, 2021 10:12 PM BST
the only player to notice was the undertaker.
For his honesty I believe 3,the tie breaker,
should be called in.
Report differentdrum June 16, 2021 10:13 PM BST
I am going to go 3 because I think Rule 4's should count. An odds on favourite doesn't go into the stalls and someone gets very fortunate with the resultant SP if deduction is applied. I don't think that's the sort of luck you should get.
Report glentoby June 16, 2021 10:14 PM BST
Shafter is getting desperate as his walls close in,nowhere to turn have you Steve?


Burned ALL your bridges and dough,serves you right YFSDC........trolling a compy you had not the guts to enter?
Report differentdrum June 16, 2021 10:16 PM BST
^ isn't applied.
Report DeSSieReborn June 16, 2021 10:16 PM BST
Jeez Kyprios was 9/2 at withdrawal? No wonder my internet went wonky they must have jammed it raiding the online bookies Shocked
Report TheNorfolkMafia June 16, 2021 10:20 PM BST
differentdrum,

Surely, you have contradicted yourself?
Report hulk23 June 16, 2021 10:28 PM BST
Kyprios was 9/2 at withdrawal

one of the 'best backed' horses of the day, AFTER it was clear it wasn't going to take part.
Report TheNorfolkMafia June 16, 2021 10:38 PM BST
Cynical, but you are 100% correct!
Report DeSSieReborn June 16, 2021 11:10 PM BST
Layers manipulating the odds? NEVER!!!! Laugh
Report differentdrum June 16, 2021 11:12 PM BST
Strict interpretation yes in my opinion 2 is correct, but given the result has already been called then 3 is the fairest approach.

In an ideal world to keep it Royal Ascot they could use the 2.30, but that would only work if all three parties were not intent on wanting to pick something in that race for the quarter final. It's difficult, but I am sticking with 3.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 16, 2021 11:48 PM BST
OK THE FAIREST WAY SEEMS TO BE AN EARLY RACE TIEBRAKER, WHICHEVER HORSE ACHIEVES THE BETTER FINISHING POSITION IS THROUGH TO THE NEXT ROUND, SORRY TO THE PERSON THAT IS OUT, NOT THE BEST OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

THE MOST LOGICAL RACE IS THE VERY FIRST RACE TOMORROW, THERE IS NO OVERWHELMING FAV AT RIPON 1:15 , FIRST COME FIRST SERVE PLEASE PICK YOUR HORSE, NO REPLY WILL SADLY AND FAIRLY SEND THE OTHER PERSON THROUGH,CHEERS
Report crystalhunt June 17, 2021 12:11 AM BST
Hi Swads - can you tell me my match - can't open the screenshot - thanks for the enjoyment.
Report TheNorfolkMafia June 17, 2021 12:27 AM BST
ItsMeSwaddle,

Well, it's your competition, but the Rule 4 applies to all bets - deduction 15p in the pound, should have been applied, as it does in all other competitions!
Report smirnoff2therescue June 17, 2021 12:36 AM BST
hav to agree wiv Norfolk even though im not involved wiv comp but running one elsewhere  and i applied the 15p rule 4 in mine wivout any complaints - same happens in naps comp ova all divisions - right price is important
Report undertaker June 17, 2021 6:34 AM BST
1.15 Ripon Mot And The Messer

Thanks.
Report Deptford June 17, 2021 6:36 AM BST
crystal, match d
Report Lance in France June 17, 2021 8:41 AM BST
Well done yesterday Crystal. Good luck going forward. Thanks for the fun Swaddle
Report crystalhunt June 17, 2021 9:05 AM BST
Cheers Dep
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 9:37 AM BST
Undertaker

Very well done on your sporting gesture, it's good to see the competition played with this spirit, just the way it should be.

Good luck
Report TheNorfolkMafia June 17, 2021 9:50 AM BST
2.30 Cadamosto E/W (NB)
3.05 One Ruler E/W
3.40 Dubai Fountain E/W
4.15 Trueshan E/W (NAP)
5.00 No bet
5.35 Kondo Isami E/W
6.10 No bet
Report Deptford June 17, 2021 9:55 AM BST
1045 Haircut
1115 M n S
1200 Champagne
100 Lunch
130 ITV Laugh
Report Lucky Luciano June 17, 2021 10:04 AM BST
Morning all,
Just looked in and didn’t expect to read this.
Very sporting of the undertaker to point out the rule 4 but I messed up as I nominated two ew selections in indie angel and so I told you by mistake.
So in the spirit of the comp I will bow out, good luck to all you guys today
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 17, 2021 10:55 AM BST
Thanks for all the feedback and thanks LL very sporting.

GL all
Report FOYLESWAR June 17, 2021 11:34 AM BST
the free super platinum service offered by calisto is a superb incentive .
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 17, 2021 11:43 AM BST
It sent Rico Dangleberry skint.
Report differentdrum June 17, 2021 12:43 PM BST
Glad all resolved without taking it away from Ascot.

2.30
3.05 Movin Time EW
3.40 Twilight Reality EW NAP
4.15 Trueshan EW
5.00 Air To Air EW
5.35
6.10 Boardman EW NB

Reserve:-

2.30 Nakatomi EW
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 12:48 PM BST
Good afternoon Guys,

2.30    Cadamosto EW
3.05    Mohaafeth Win Nap
3.40    No Bet
4.15    Trueshan EW NB
5.00    Summa Peto EW
5.35    No Bet
6.10    Boardman EW

Good luck to my opponent Deptford
Report Deptford June 17, 2021 12:48 PM BST
Match A
305 Mohaafeth (NB)
340 Noon Star
415 Stradivarus (nap)
535 Sure Fire (EW)
610 Persuasion (EW)

Good luck Andrew
Report crystalhunt June 17, 2021 1:02 PM BST
Match D

2.30 Lucci
3.05 Roman Empire EW
3.40 Eshaada
4.20 Spanish Mission NB
5.00
5.35
6.10 Danya Nap

Good luck all !
Report undertaker June 17, 2021 1:26 PM BST
Lucky Luciano, that is very sporting of you, thank you.

Match D

2.30 Twilight Jet e/w
3.05 One Ruler NB
3.40 Dubai Fountain NAP
4.15 Spanish Mission e/w
5.00 No bet
5.35 No bet
6.10 Jack's Point e/w

Reserve 5.35 Just Fine e/w
Report crystalhunt June 17, 2021 1:52 PM BST
Sorry - Reserve Siam Fox ew 5.00

Good luck undertaker!
Report undertaker June 17, 2021 2:06 PM BST
Thank you crystal, same to you.
Report DeSSieReborn June 17, 2021 2:14 PM BST
Match v Stocks
2.30 Cadamosto EW
3.05 Matchless EW
4.15 Serpentine EW
5.35 Sir Lamorak EW NAP
6.10 Corvair EW NB
Report DeSSieReborn June 17, 2021 2:15 PM BST
My reserve : 3.40 Nicest EW
Report Deptford June 17, 2021 2:25 PM BST
Andrew, we posted exact same time, just saw, was getting worried you never entered.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 17, 2021 2:27 PM BST
Gl all, easier to follow with 8!
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 3:49 PM BST
Hi Swaddle,

Trueshan is a NR, do i have any options to change or is my selection now on the fav ?

Apologies, i should have posted a reserve.
Report Deptford June 17, 2021 3:57 PM BST
I dont know the rules but its ok by me mate, im having a fooking blinder so if you beat me no worries, my best Ascot since Rizeena
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 4:02 PM BST
Hi Deptford

From what i read on the start up thread i can't change after the first race so it goes on the fav. No worries and good luck.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 17, 2021 4:08 PM BST
Hi is ok as been ok'ed by opponent, thanks Deptford for decent spirit
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 4:11 PM BST
Thanks Guys Happy
Report DeSSieReborn June 17, 2021 6:38 PM BST
Well Done Stocks, Good Luck in the semi Cool
Report Andrew.in.Sweden June 17, 2021 7:01 PM BST
Deptford,

Well done, no excuses from my side (although the term useless springs to mind Laugh.

Good luck in the semis.

Swaddie,

Many thanks for all your inut into this competiton, i really enjoyed it, good fun.
Report stocks June 17, 2021 7:42 PM BST
Thanks DeSsieReborn i was lucky only half length in the race
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