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stridingedge
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst Substitutes can be offered along with the primary selection on any given day following all the usual rules, a failure to have offered up a substitute to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

Can I change my selection once it’s been posted.?

You can only change your selection IF it is either deemed void OR it is nonsensical, ie a horse that doesn’t exist given in error. If sub(s) have been offered they will be used instead.If no sub has been offered and the selection deemed void you can post another selection so long as it’s BEFORE the 15 min before first race time limit.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

*Selections AT TIME OF POSTING must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair. A rule change now determines that selections going off greater than the old 6.0 limit will now not be deemed void but instead will be settled at BFSP no matter what price this is and staking will be in accordance with the fixed 5% liability of bank as always.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry along with any substitutes is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer up to 2 substitutes to back up their primary entry in the event of that runner being deemed void.If 2 substitutes are offered they will replace the void selection in the order they are posted. In the unfortunate event the substitute(s) are also deemed void the entrant will be put down as a void selection day.

Eg
16:00 Haydock First Selection
Sub 15:55 Catterick Second Selection
Sub 13:20 Southwell Third Selection

Where 2 Subs are given they will be chosen in order posted rather than time of races.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-15mins of the FIRST RACE OF THE DAY (so if the first race of the day is 12:00 ALL ENTRIES FOR THE DAY must be in by no later than 11:45am.Any Entries past this time will not be allowed!

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.We will also have an overall comp for the duration November through March this time around.

Anyone is free to join in on any given month so long as they can still fulfill the 25 selections minimum for the month.For a chance of winning the overall comp running November through March, the minimum selections offered must be at least 100.

Good luck all.
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Report stridingedge November 21, 2020 7:29 PM GMT
ALL selections in by 11:25 PLEASE

Cheers
Report madhatters November 21, 2020 8:35 PM GMT
Peace Prevails 1.53 Utt

res Velocistar 2.50 Wol

Cheers Stride
Report madhatter November 21, 2020 8:40 PM GMT
Luckofthedraw [place lay] - 13.33 Exeter please SE
Report TheNorfolkMafia November 21, 2020 10:14 PM GMT
Anythingforlove - 1.18 Uttoxeter
Report adamanty November 21, 2020 10:55 PM GMT
4.00..Wolvs..Atavique
Report invicta November 21, 2020 11:08 PM GMT
L'Air Du Vent   12.33 Exeter

thank you  striding.
Report dukeofpuke November 22, 2020 12:04 AM GMT
Trans Express 2.43 Exeter place
Report penzance November 22, 2020 8:30 AM GMT
L'Air Du Vent 12.33 Ex
3.1 (LPM)
   GL ALL
Report Andrew.in.Sweden November 22, 2020 8:40 AM GMT
Yukon Lil - 2.35 Cork

Good luck all
Report Airman November 22, 2020 8:48 AM GMT
Utt 13:53  Misty Whisky - PL

Thanks Stride.
Report Celeric November 22, 2020 9:01 AM GMT
Wolves 4.00 Atavique place
Report jimnast November 22, 2020 9:19 AM GMT
backbow 145 navan please

if recent history is to go by a bad selection as mullins has introduced douvan,min,and the great al boum photo to fences in this race.
Report stewarts rise November 22, 2020 9:58 AM GMT
The Fresh Prince-3.03 Uttoxeter.

Thanks SE.
Report happysandwich November 22, 2020 10:07 AM GMT
Good morning Stride

Uttoxeter 1:18 Coquelicot
Sub
Navan 3:30 Party Central
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 22, 2020 10:20 AM GMT
Hiroshi 140 Wolves
Report FOYLESWAR November 22, 2020 10:42 AM GMT
monmiral 13.03 exeter 1.95
Report sixtwosix November 22, 2020 11:05 AM GMT
Elite Troop Grey (3.05) - 1.10 Navan

thanks
Report tanglefoot November 22, 2020 11:15 AM GMT
I’m So Busy 12.18 Uttoxeter,thx
Report The Management November 22, 2020 11:16 AM GMT
14:50 Wolverhampton: Toplight (4.80 LPM)

Thanks Striding. GL everybody.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 11:20 AM GMT
13:40 Wol Hiroshi (p)

Archie excellent trainer, this horse looks like it's been a bit disappointing for them IMO rather than any sort of plan to go this route. Pieces on today and trip rise may help but plenty in here that may have been more primed for this sort of race.

I wouldn't bother taking on too many of his winners going into nurseries but this one hopefully is vulnerable and in my predicament I may as wellgo for it.

The other one considered was a place lay in the 12:48 Utt Louse Talk, very disappointing over fences. The typical has it fallen low enough to scrape in type. But I see plenty of other likely early pacers in this race and this horse far more likely to down tools if a few of them are pushing it and there are more unexposed sorts that will probably want it more IMO.


So there's a sunday win double for you peeps Laugh
Report tanglefoot November 22, 2020 11:25 AM GMT
The goose that lays dem golden eggs,keep them coming striding Laugh
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 11:26 AM GMT
CLOSED
Report stewarts rise November 22, 2020 11:26 AM GMT
Amazing isn't it striding that with so many horses running under 6.0 every day in win and place markets that we can all run up a sequence of winning lays, good luck today hope you break your current spell.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 11:33 AM GMT



GL ALL today
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 11:38 AM GMT
Tangle Laugh

Stew indeed! I would not be laughing about it if I were losing financially going on a run like this. I don't lay a lot of horses pre race but was hoping to use this comp over the winter to see where I'm at after a very promising summer on the flat trying out various approaches.One of them spells recently where everything that can go wrong is going wrong in these races to a spectacular degree.

Will keep plodding on and see how it goes certainly won't be giving up however bad I'm doing so far.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 11:41 AM GMT
Yesterday's lesson don't count on shane kelly as one on your side, he can get one travelling the best in the race boxed in in a 6 runner race.Cry
Report tanglefoot November 22, 2020 12:30 PM GMT
Hi striding, I am sure the jokes on me,if u look at my form in compWink
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 12:35 PM GMT
no worries with today's Tangle, stuffed WD. Happy
Report TheNorfolkMafia November 22, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
Skinto has only gone and undone the saddle!

Laugh
Report stewarts rise November 22, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
Not going your way SE, 3rd bad luck
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 1:46 PM GMT
both done for wins today but of course place landed on the pick.

Thought I had a great chance with hollies pulling like stink running wide etc but most of the field in a different parish like a southgwell race up the straight. Laugh

Pushed it and it didn't come off so just going to accept the loss this month and go back to not trying to chase.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 1:50 PM GMT
Swaddle thanking his lucky stars I didn't play safer with the win selection Laugh
Report jimnast November 22, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
no complaints there very impressive .
Report stewarts rise November 22, 2020 2:53 PM GMT
Criket, the way mine has drifted I'll  be lucky if it counts.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 2:56 PM GMT
No limit now Stew.

We changed the rules a while back.
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 2:58 PM GMT
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

*Selections AT TIME OF POSTING must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair. A rule change now determines that selections going off greater than the old 6.0 limit will now not be deemed void but instead will be settled at BFSP no matter what price this is and staking will be in accordance with the fixed 5% liability of bank as always.

Probably around the time you were struggling to get on the forum.
Report The Management November 22, 2020 2:58 PM GMT
My pick has just won the 14:50 at Wolv in a manner that suggests it could stay out there and win the 15:25 race as well!

Hate the yard - the pair of them never seem to miss when the money is down (unless there is a very unsubtle late drift).
Report stewarts rise November 22, 2020 2:59 PM GMT
Oh, ok but even if it gets beat I'll hardly win anything, though would be 3.5ish
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 3:02 PM GMT
Yes TM that routed them didn't it hard lines mate.
Report The Management November 22, 2020 3:05 PM GMT
The easiest HC (nursery) winner that I can ever recall having seen at Wolves SE! Cry
Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 4:11 PM GMT



Report stridingedge November 22, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
Table is up in Your Comps

Tomorrow's Selections thread will be up around 6pm

Cheers All
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