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By:
Latalomne
When: 04 Nov 20 08:26

Nov 3, 2020 -- 11:59PM, equine flew wrote:


Total wrong George, the government have no inclination to destroy horse racing, they just want to protect the vulnerable.Or are you suggesting that the entire horse racing model is predicated on a financial model of people losing more than they can afford?


Horse racing levy is based on bookmaker profits, therefore it IS intrinsically linked to how much people are losing.  It is not unreasonable to think that a £100 loss per month limit really could screw the industry.

By:
Latalomne
When: 04 Nov 20 08:29

Nov 4, 2020 -- 12:46AM, stewarty b wrote:


I know the virus is playing havoc but could one not troll the city centre and put on....for example 10x£50 wins on the same horse?


We are clearly moving towards a cashless society, which will inevitably make that more difficult to achieve.

In order for this to work, there would have to be some kind of central hub for payments across all bookmakers.

By:
jimnast
When: 04 Nov 20 09:02
the private layers will be in clover.
By:
jimnast
When: 04 Nov 20 09:05
anyway it will not trouble anyone on this forum as we never loseWhoops
By:
Davros
When: 04 Nov 20 10:04
What a fantastic plan to create a bookmaking black market, none of whom contribute any profits to the tax man or contribute anything to the levy.  In practical terms the only way to make it work would be to create a central bookmaking monopoly (Tote?) with each punter credit-checked and assessed for affordability. Insane.
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Nov 20 10:07
Yes, illegal casinos/books will actually be using this as a marketing ploy.
By:
big aitch
When: 04 Nov 20 11:34
A better plan to avoid poverty might be to limit the millions of drug addicts in this Country to buying £100 worth of illegal drugs from the scum that push them.


The amount of money lost to bookmakers etc is a drop in the ocean compared to all the money that people spend who have been hooked on drugs.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 04 Nov 20 11:48
I just wish tptb would meddle in my life just a little bit more
After all they are a super-race and have all the answers.
By:
The Knight
When: 04 Nov 20 12:07
@protecting the vulnerable'..Of course that is desirable BUT only where the vulnerable really cannot help themselves.

The vast, vast majority of people with gambling, drink, or any addiction problems could stop with the will power.

You do not spoil life for vast swathes of people to protect the weak-willed and the feckless. Yet, the UK heads further and further down that path.

Protecting the vulnerable must, absolutely must, be about protecting those who really cannot help themselves. Not those who choose to do stupid things knowing the consequences.

Quite how the fluffy liberals got such a grip of the UK I do not know.

But I do know, only someone as mad to the left as Corbyn was would ever actually TRY to impose a £100 limit on gambling losses for everyone. How would the stock market ever work, hedge funds, futures markets etc etc.

Absolutely the most stupid thing I have EVER seen emerge from those in Westminster. Such is their naivety, all of them who came up with it are not fit to be making ANY decisions, let alone important stuff like this.

If it did happen, I'd be away to Ireland forthwith.
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 04 Nov 20 12:26
Good post
By:
GAZO
When: 04 Nov 20 12:32
it is a good post except that the companys who operate in the markets he mentioned got bailed after doing something stupid knowing the consequences
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Nov 20 13:16
How would that even work. You bet €100 on a odds on fav and he loses, now you can't bet in the next race because your account gets a timeout for the rest of the month?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 04 Nov 20 13:48
What happens if you win £5k in january, £2k in march, but lose a ton on march 1st?
are you unable to bet for a month?
By:
Jumping-cuckoo-monk
When: 04 Nov 20 13:48
£2k in february*
By:
big aitch
When: 04 Nov 20 13:55
Strangely Guy Fawkes Night is meant to celebrate the Houses of Parliament being saved from destruction when it should be the exact opposite.
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Nov 20 13:59
Something like this already exists but I dont know whether its for websites outside the UK
Ive watched a streamer on twitch who plays on the 5hitty daft thicko slots and he has several accounts with different providers
Several require him to file his salary details apparently to determine how much he can bet.
By:
dustybin
When: 04 Nov 20 14:01
oh and some only ask for KYC once he won and wanted to withdraw
By:
sixtwosix
When: 04 Nov 20 14:03
In this lunatic asylum , I presume you could not put on £150 of bets on day 1, say in accumulators , because it would mean you lost more than a ton if you did not get 50 quid back.

Also in this East German ruled madness , how do they stop you putting bets on with lots of on course bookies .....presuming Boris and his gutless scientists ever let any one back on course.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 04 Nov 20 14:04
The rebirth of the ante post market imo
By:
stewarty b
When: 04 Nov 20 15:07
Prohibition next..
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Nov 20 15:49
Yeah, restrict betting to €100 a month but you can buy a million worth of cigarettes and alcohol? It's a slippery slope.
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Nov 20 15:50
Also the actual sports industry would get killed. Many teams are sponsored by bookies.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 04 Nov 20 15:54
Look forward to the wild tales of excess from some footballer who blew £1,200 in a year on the gee gees .....should be a best seller.
By:
blunder
When: 04 Nov 20 16:01
is it April the 1st ?  Absolutely no chance of being implemented.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Nov 20 16:05
Don't say you weren't warned. From a thread on here three years ago, where you were all demanding bans and restrictions on FOBTs:

screaming from beneaththewaves24 Mar 17 16:30
This is the problem. Once the anti-gambling community gets one sniff of victory on FOBTs, they'll turn their attention to traditional betting. They'll use exactly the same arguments against betting on racing as we on here are using against betting on FOBTs - vulnerable citizens in poor areas being exploited by cynical betting shop owners; hard-working family men losing their wages through no fault of their own, etc.
By:
Senyatta
When: 04 Nov 20 16:07
personally i'd have no sympathy for the bookies. they'd be ruined if this was implemented. but i agree with the posters saying they'd have to control other habits too
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Nov 20 16:09
Will you have sympathy for the Betfair exchange, which will be ruined even more?
By:
sageform
When: 04 Nov 20 16:18
Is that from each bookmaker, averaged over several months, applied to billionaires as well? So many questions as usual when something like this is mooted. I lose £100 in some months and less in others but my DAILY value change on the stock market can be £2000 so does that count? Utter nonsense.
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Nov 20 16:25
Boils down to plebs can't be trusted with their own money.
By:
Senyatta
When: 04 Nov 20 16:26
the exchange has been dying for a long time now with flutter concentrating on their non gubbed bettors and casino players. look at any champions league matches tonight and apart from the match odds most markets have huge gaps in them. it's already a shadow of its former self.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Nov 20 16:29
£6 million already matched on a women's T20 going on in Sharjah.

£450 million matched on the uS election.

Hard to see those figures surviving any level of loss restrictions.
By:
Senyatta
When: 04 Nov 20 16:30
the plebs will find other ways to blow their money - most of them have other addictions anyways and they'll move onto those
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Nov 20 16:45
guys you can give your response to this, I'm going to start a separate thread

https://consult.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/author/remote-customer-interaction-consultation-and-call/consultation/intro/
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Nov 20 17:35
My impression is that these loss caps etc are for online games akin to fobts rather than sports betting per se.
By:
dave1357
When: 04 Nov 20 17:41
where do you get that impression from?
By:
11kv
When: 04 Nov 20 17:43
You can only win $100 as well........
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Nov 20 17:51

Nov 4, 2020 -- 5:41PM, dave1357 wrote:


where do you get that impression from?


Because MPs have been banging on about bringing online slot games into line with the fobt restrictions for some time.

By:
themightymac
When: 04 Nov 20 17:51
That will never happen. Would cause a Revolution.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 04 Nov 20 18:04
No it wouldn't. It would cause the public to queue up to be appointed Betting Marshals. Eight hours a day outside Laddies in a hi-viz vest, naming and shaming the punters endangering themselves.
By:
Larabrown
When: 04 Nov 20 18:09
I always think that the OP sounds like a lovely, sophisticated, warm, cheerful person.
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