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Billy Liddell
10 Oct 20 13:40
Date Joined: 28 Aug 05
| Topic/replies: 4,322 | Blogger: Billy Liddell's blog
Seems to be a really good Tipster and a decent bloke when I have heard him on WH Radio. Does anyone know his Profit or Loss over a period of time. I will post his selections on here and keep a record out of interest..

DUBAI HONOUR   1-30 York   11/4    1pt Win
NORTHERN EXPRESS   1-30 York    4/1  1pt Win

WEMBLEY 2-55 York   11/1   1pt EW

NOT SO SLEEPY  3-35 York   9/1     1pt EW
LYNWOOD GOLD  3-35 York  14/1   .5pts EW

SIR PYSCHO   3-57 Chepstow   7/1  .5pts EW

ZEFFERINO  6-30 Chelmsford   6/1   1pt EW

9pts Staked..
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Report Somerset Sam October 12, 2020 11:01 AM BST

Oct 12, 2020 -- 11:27AM, clayfield1 wrote:

Hugh Taylor is by far and away the best tipster, free or paid for. The only trouble is the prices go within 30 seconds of him putting them up, I've been following horse racing for more than 50 Years and can't recall ANY tipster having an effect like this on the market. If Hugh Taylor puts something up at 12/1 it's no good at all taking 8/1 which is how most of his tip's go, the exception are the short one's i.e. under about 7/2 but these are few and far between. But even when be puts one up at say 7/2 the best price you will get will probably be 11/4. What chance do punters have ZERO.

Just because one shortens in price doesn't mean its not still value at its revised price. You may think that it's a 4/1 shot, just because it was 8/1 and its now 6/1 shouldn't talk you out of having the bet.

I appreciate easier said in practice but you cant be too hung up about not getting the early price which has gone.

Report Billy Liddell October 12, 2020 11:04 AM BST
One of the horses I picked out last night at 11/4 has been put up at 9/4 today. Today's selections according to the website were put up at 08-42 and at 08-49 the horse moved to 15/8.
His NAP was available at 9/1 at the same time but had already started to move in the market about one hour before with nearly all Bookmakers between 11/2 and 7/1. You had 4 minutes to obtain the 9/1..
Report Larabrown October 12, 2020 2:08 PM BST
Does AH have a private service that get the pick of the prices?
Report penzance October 12, 2020 2:41 PM BST
1 or 2 bit's on him on youtube.
Bit of a time man,if I remember?
Report bluenose7 October 12, 2020 3:29 PM BST
Subscription service.

"Andy Holding speed figures"
Report FOYLESWAR October 12, 2020 3:47 PM BST
i mainly bet ante post , and while i dont follow andy holdings tips ,during lockdown i watched some of his videos on youtube and he suggested backing each way ,and i started doing this instead of win only and i can say so far so it has made a diffrence .
Report Billy Liddell October 12, 2020 9:22 PM BST
No luck today for AH and 3pts loss..

Running Profit/Loss    12.3pts Profit
Report Gaze733 October 13, 2020 7:28 AM BST
His staking is weird, it has no effect on win rate whatsoever. If a horse is below 20/1 bet a full point to win.
Report Billy Liddell October 13, 2020 10:53 AM BST
It must work for him G733
Report Billy Liddell October 13, 2020 8:20 PM BST
5pts lost today

Running Profit/Loss    7.3pts Profit
Report Movewiththetimes October 14, 2020 4:55 PM BST
Nice winner there
Report grayhawk October 14, 2020 5:14 PM BST
Billy.. think i've read before that Andy is over 400 points in front over the last 3-4 years at advertised price.....not exactly sure mind
Report Movewiththetimes October 14, 2020 7:10 PM BST
Nice double
Report Billy Liddell October 14, 2020 8:23 PM BST
Thanks grayhawk, he is very Good.. He is back in The Winners Enclosure today with two 13/2 and 7/2 shots..

Tout Est Permis - 1pt @ 4/1  2nd       -1pt
Mr Scrumpy - 0.5pts e/w @ 13/2  WON    +3.9pts
Lorna Cole - 1pt e/w @ 5/1             -2pts
Almufti - 1pt @ 7/2    WON              +3.5pts

Running Profit   11.7pts
Report GEORGE.B October 14, 2020 8:59 PM BST
isn't there a website that keeps a record of how the likes of Andy and Hugh doing in the long term?
Report GEORGE.B October 14, 2020 8:59 PM BST
* are doing ...
Report 11kv October 16, 2020 6:47 PM BST
NAP in the next at Dundalk
Report 11kv October 16, 2020 6:47 PM BST
Report Billy Liddell October 16, 2020 8:12 PM BST
Thursday results..

Unp 3/1    1pt loss
2nd 5/2    1pt loss
Placed EW  .12 Profit    Loss of 1.88pts

Running Profit 9.82pts

Friday results..

Unp 9/2    2pts loss
Won 15/8   1.875 Profit
Placed 9/1   .40 Profit
Unp 12/1    2pts loss
Won 9/4     4.5pts Profit    Profit of 6.775pts

Running Profit 16.595pts
Report Billy Liddell October 17, 2020 7:26 PM BST
Dawn Patrol - 0.5pts e/w @ 11/1  Unp       -1pt
Onassis - 0.5pts e/w @ 40/1      Unp       -1pt
Lord Park - 2pts e/w @ 9/2       Placed    +.25
Skaletti - 1pt e/w @ 11/1        Placed    +1.2
Njord - 1pt e/w @ 10/1           WON       +12pts
Alternative Fact - 1pt e/w @ 10/1 Unp      -2pts

Running Profit 26.545pts in 7 days
Report PHS October 17, 2020 7:56 PM BST
Pretty decent today. He seems to get a regular flow of winners. HT more sporadic
Report 11kv October 18, 2020 12:41 PM BST
Andy Holding's Sunday Racing Tips
Streets Of Doyen
Streets Of Doyen
Cork 14:07
Ffos Las 15:10
1pt E/W
My Minervina
My Minervina
Naas 15:05
1pt E/W
Diego Du Charmil
Diego Du Charmil
Kempton 15:32
Diego Du Charmil
Diego Du Charmil
Kempton 15:32 [w/o Verdana Blue]
Barrington Court
Barrington Court
Naas 16:15
Report Lampus October 18, 2020 2:15 PM BST
Report 11kv October 18, 2020 5:32 PM BST
Not a bad day for him
Report Billy Liddell October 19, 2020 7:35 PM BST
1.875 Profit
5.5 Profit     1.875pts profit on Sunday

2pts loss on Monday

Running Profit  26.42pts profit
Report Billy Liddell October 20, 2020 1:05 PM BST
Tuesday 20th

Inver Park
Yarmouth 14:00
1pt  9/2

Arcadian Nights
Kempton 17:35
1pt E/W

Mini Milk
Kempton 18:10
Report Billy Liddell October 20, 2020 1:17 PM BST
1pt Win to level stakes        28.5pts
AH Staking Plan                26.42pts
Report Gaze733 October 20, 2020 1:25 PM BST
Like I said, the stakes don't affect the win rates at all. A half point e/w is just as good a as full point e/w.
Report Billy Liddell October 20, 2020 7:36 PM BST
A 8/1 winner on Tuesday and two losers..

Running Profit   34.02pts AH Staking
Running Profit   34.50 1pt level stakes
Report betting_masta October 20, 2020 7:41 PM BST
he's running hot atm but you'd have to look at his results over a year to really get to the bottom of if he's a good tipster to follow or not, bear in mind you will almost never get his prices, then if you do you'll be restricted to £1 or £2. all to be borne in mind before thinking you can make a fortune from him
Report Billy Liddell October 20, 2020 7:56 PM BST
I haven't put a penny on his tips bm, out of interest I kept an eye on them one day and all his prices were available for at least ten minutes after appearing on Oddschecker..
Report Billy Liddell October 21, 2020 12:08 PM BST
Newmarket 14:45

Newmarket 15:20
1pt E/W

Kodiac Prince
Gowran Park 15:30
0.5pts E/W
Report Gaze733 October 21, 2020 4:08 PM BST
Done his bollocks in today.
Report Billy Liddell October 22, 2020 11:38 AM BST
On today's Oddschecker..

Andy is currently 189.39pts in profit for 2020 and 35.83pts in profit for October.

Not exactly G733Laugh

5pts lost Wednesday..

Since 10th October

Running Profit  29.02pts AH Staking
Running Profit  31.5 1pt level stakes


Navan 13:55

Bear Ghylls
Lingfield 16:07

William of Wykeham
Navan 16:50

Military Mission
Wolverhampton 18:15
Report Larabrown October 22, 2020 12:55 PM BST
Not exactly G733Laugh

Ha ha ha ha....clueless.
Report 11kv October 22, 2020 8:00 PM BST
Please tell me its not true and Windsore is back amongst us...Cry
Report Billy Liddell October 23, 2020 10:41 AM BST
Andy is currently 191.89pts in profit for 2020 and 38.33pts in profit for October.

Out of interest AH was approx 7pts in Profit in the 10 days before I was keeping check..

Profit of 2.5pts yesterday..

Since 10th October

Running Profit  31.52pts AH Staking
Running Profit  31.25 1pt level stakes
Report Billy Liddell October 24, 2020 11:38 AM BST
Newbury 14:25

Julies Stowaway
Galway 15:22

Helvic Dream
Leopardstown 16:14

Surrey Pride
Newbury 16:45

Leopardstown 16:49
1pt E/W

Smurphy Enki
Cheltenham 17:35

Cheltenham 17:35
0.5pts E/W
Report Billy Liddell October 24, 2020 6:18 PM BST

Losing day today for AH with a loss of 3.62pts

Since 10th October

Running Profit  31.52pts AH Staking     27.9pts Profit
Running Profit  31.25 1pt level stakes  27.25pts Profit
Report Movewiththetimes October 24, 2020 6:25 PM BST
Good month.
Report Lampus October 25, 2020 3:48 PM GMT
Report Billy Liddell October 25, 2020 4:14 PM GMT

Profit today for AH of 4.125pts

Running Profit  AH Staking       32.025pts
Running Profit 1pt level stakes  35.875pts
Report Lampus October 26, 2020 1:12 PM GMT
Monday Nap HappyHappy
Report Billy Liddell October 26, 2020 7:08 PM GMT
Another great day for AH

Andy Holding has five selections for today's racing, at Ayr, Wexford and Leicester
Andy is currently 201.85pts in profit for 2020 and 48.29pts in profit for October.


Profit today of 6.75pts
Report 11kv October 26, 2020 7:41 PM GMT
Report betting_masta October 26, 2020 8:16 PM GMT
devil's advocate, let's say you miss every tip by a point, or even half a point, totally possible, where does that  leave you in terms of profit?
Report betting_masta October 26, 2020 8:17 PM GMT
the answer is up the khyber
Report betting_masta October 26, 2020 8:37 PM GMT
Tuesday:  Cheap Jack @ Southwell

I am seeing if I can predict what AH will tip
Report Larabrown October 26, 2020 8:42 PM GMT
For some, life must be a thoroughly negative experience. These results are excellent and yet they immediately default to finding a way of trying to find fault.
Report Billy Liddell October 26, 2020 9:27 PM GMT
I have said this before further up, I kept an eye on these but didn't back them and for about 10-15mins after coming on you could still get what he had put up at the same prices.
He is very good regardless of what prices you can get and deserves a lot of credit in a game were most people never win long term..
Report siralex October 27, 2020 12:23 AM GMT
I am amazed most people on here haven’t heard of him before. I have been backing him religiously for 2 years nearly. He is in my opinion much better than hugh Taylor and the prices are much more achievable but still go very quickly. You need to refresh around 9am to try and get them as he puts them on the oddschecker website. His stats over The last 2 years are about as good as anyone out there and I track approx 30 tipsters a month. He makes a profit most months and is always around the top of my list. If you could get his prices every time he would be my only tipster. I have followed half a dozen brilliant ones over the last 9 years and he is in that shortlist. I personally ignore his staking plan and do my own depending on price but even his level stake profit is superb over the last 2 years.
Report siralex October 27, 2020 12:25 AM GMT
Ps - you cannot go by what oddschecker says the prices are. They are worse now for updating than they have ever been. I see tipsters quoting oddschecker prices all the time when they put their tips up and they are way out on occasions. Most don’t check the actual bookies website and just use oddschecker which means their profit and loss can be way out.
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 8:58 AM GMT
I`ve just checked - Andy is currently 201.85pts in profit for 2020 and 48.29pts in profit for October.

Who else is is on your shortlist siralex? Can you really make a profit from these tipsters?
Report siralex October 27, 2020 9:42 AM GMT
Definitely. I lost for 15-20 years doing it on my own. Have followed tipsters now for 9 years and apart from 2 years when had no accounts it’s been the best decision I have ever made. Lots of hard work and tracking involved. I have a list of approx 120 tipsters used in that period. I track 30 each month and back on average everything 5-10 of them put up each day depending on who is doing well. I do a jump on and off way of betting which everyone says can’t work and shouldn’t work. If they are doing well I may back 10-15 tipster a day and if struggling then just 0-5 tipsters a day. I am now trying to avoid paid tipsters and overnight market tipsters as most rely on this to make profit. All well and good but gets your accounts shut in days with my stakes. The tipsters don’t care though, they just see a top price or a stand out price and put it up and most don’t even back their own tips!! I used to just follow the most profitable and just open up new accounts on a weekly basis but now gone through approx 50 people and dont have that option anymore so am recording stats at advised prices and betfair sp as that’s where a lot of my bets are placed now.
Report ronnie rails October 27, 2020 9:48 AM GMT
off topic but it is a long time since you have been on here hope you are well.
have a good day
Report siralex October 27, 2020 10:51 AM GMT
Hi Ronnie. I am fine thanks. Still hard at work but last 9 years changed my life for the better compared to the previous 15-20 which changed it for the worse!! Running my own service now alongside the betting. Mostly on twitter now but scour everywhere for the best tipsters around. Still banned from all the corals in my area but never use the shops anyway except the odd ante post bet.
Hope you are well.
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 12:15 PM GMT
This is fascinating siralex, thank you. I remember back to the glory days when Henry Rix was tipping so well before he went private and then Mel Collier did the same.
Report siralex October 27, 2020 12:21 PM GMT
My most memorable ones over the years - Henry Rix, Tom segal, valuehorse tips, Andy holding. Plenty more quality ones I have since been with but none seem to last longer than 6 months whereas those mentioned have long term profitability. Getting the prices is another issue obviously but was well worth the effort whilst I could get new accounts on a regular basis.
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 2:40 PM GMT
What`s your twitter ID please?
Report siralex October 27, 2020 2:49 PM GMT
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 2:59 PM GMT
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 3:13 PM GMT
Twitter looks about as warm and friendly as the forum!
Report siralex October 27, 2020 3:51 PM GMT
It’s an awful place but if you can get past the trolls liars and scammers then there are some gems to be found.
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 4:16 PM GMT
Social media is certainly a breeding ground for the strangest folk.
Report truehoncho October 27, 2020 4:33 PM GMT
Social media is certainly a breeding ground for the strangest folk. ---  You fit right in.
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 4:58 PM GMT
Quod erat demonstrandum.
Report foxy October 27, 2020 5:10 PM GMT
Report Billy Liddell October 27, 2020 6:50 PM GMT
11/4 winner today but his 2pts NAP was unplaced..

Andy Holding is now 202.6pts in profit for 2020 and 49.04pts in profit for October.
Report tanglefoot October 27, 2020 7:19 PM GMT
Yes,in my dream I cleaned up all the 11/4 and the bookmakers were so kind as not to take deductions for the scratching.
Report tanglefoot October 27, 2020 7:27 PM GMT
^^ above is the fantasy world, but in the real world, u are quickly put on SP only and £1.82 max bet.Laugh
Report Larabrown October 27, 2020 8:22 PM GMT
For these people there is no covid, there are no winners and we are in a Trump-esque world of fake news. Aren`t they lovely?
Report 11kv October 27, 2020 8:43 PM GMT
Leave the fred alone Fraudio,its going along nicely apart from you parping up.
Report siralex October 27, 2020 8:44 PM GMT
Yep thats what happens on twitter. Full of bull****s who don’t mention the rule 4’s and use 1/4 odds instead of 1/5th. It actually paid 2.35/1 which is what I record it at rather than the 11/4 those uninitiated will shout about. I point this out and people get the arse. Mad world.
Report siralex October 27, 2020 8:45 PM GMT
I actually only got 5/2 as well so paid out a tad over 2/1 rather than 11/4. But what’s 0.75 points between friends!
Report tanglefoot October 27, 2020 8:49 PM GMT
Respect siralex.
Report Billy Liddell October 28, 2020 5:31 PM GMT
Espresso Fredo - 1pt @ 7/2        5th  -1pt      -1
Arcadian Sunrise - 2pts @ 7/4     8th  -2pts     -3
Jackson Hill - 1pt @ 7/2          2nd  -1pt      -4
Gee Rex - 1pt @ 15/8              1st  +1.875    -2.125
Dundalk 20:00   Still to run and needs better luck for a profit on the day, also against my fancy of CHATEAU MUSAR 8/1
1pt E/W
Report Billy Liddell October 28, 2020 9:37 PM GMT
4.125pts lost on Wednesday..
Report GLASGOWCALLING October 28, 2020 9:46 PM GMT
Evening Lara, have just found a username pic for you ......

Report Fourex October 29, 2020 8:11 AM GMT

Oct 28, 2020 -- 11:37PM, Billy Liddell wrote:

4.125pts lost on Wednesday..

Slight correction Billy - Wojood 1pt EW 11/2 3rd so +.375 and -1.75 on Wednesday

Report Billy Liddell October 29, 2020 9:31 PM GMT
Thanks Fourex   another similar loss

Back Annie Day at 16-1   0.5pts EW   Lost   -1
Back Aintree My Dream at 9-2 1pt EW  Lost   -2     -3
Back Sorrel at 10-3  1pt Win         Won   3.33   + .3
Back La Dragontea at 8-1 1pt EW      Lost  -2     -1.7
Report grayhawk October 30, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
His tipping's good but his geography is terrible Mischief...come on Andy Hexham is in Northumberland not Durham Grin
Report N-east Correspondent October 30, 2020 6:16 PM GMT
his 2pt nap has hacked up (well backed) and v.unlucky with Some Reign 3.20, two other losers and
one big priced one to come at Dundalk 8.00 Pure Nature adv. 16/1 probable rule 4 but now half that
he is good no doubting that.
Report Larabrown October 30, 2020 7:05 PM GMT
Agreed. A very impressive few weeks.
Report Larabrown October 30, 2020 8:07 PM GMT
....and now a 20-1 winner.
Report bullraider October 30, 2020 8:08 PM GMT
pure nature
Report Billy Liddell October 30, 2020 8:48 PM GMT
Back Pure Nature at 16-1
There’s not a lot to separate many of the runners in this competitive finale, so it makes little sense to see PURE NATURE (best price 16-1) chalked up as one of the outsiders considering her suitability to this surface.

Having her first outing at the Co Lough venue a month ago following two promising runs on turf (firstly behind Paso Doble) Ado McGuinness’ filly was well-backed to make a deserved breakthrough and having travelled like the most likely winner throughout, she got the job done in ready fashion. Clocking one of the fastest time figures on the eight-race card, the daughter of Dansili made a mockery of her rating at the time (64) and it was no surprise to see her try and capitalise on her seemingly generous mark at Fairyhouse a week later. Unfortunately for her and her supporters, heavy rain meant she failed in her bid to repeat the dose but that should count against her chances here tonight now returning to her favoured C&D. Nicely draw and likely to be suited by a better all-round pace in this classier heat, the three-year-old has the scope to put up a bold show despite the layers suggesting otherwise.

Pure Nature - 0.5pts e/w @ 16/1Cool
Report Movewiththetimes October 30, 2020 10:03 PM GMT
Time to admire in silence now imo and update on DEC 31St Cool
Report Billy Liddell October 31, 2020 11:47 AM GMT

2pts NAP Won yesterday and a 0.5pts EW 16/1 Winner and three losers

I will finish off October and update at the end of each month..

Andy is currently 199.5pts in profit for 2020 and 45.94pts in profit for October.
Report Larabrown October 31, 2020 5:23 PM GMT
Another good day - your timing is pretty extraordinary Billy. AH about 200 pts up for the year and about 50 pts up in October! Superb.
Report siralex November 1, 2020 1:22 AM GMT
Been following him for ages now, he finished October +59 points to a 1 point win on each of his selections at advised prices and +23 at betfair sp. finished 6th at advised prices and 9th at betfair sp in my league table of tipsters. Top was +132 at betfair sp and +121 at advised prices.
Report FOYLESWAR November 1, 2020 10:51 AM GMT
whats he tipped today thanks
Report FOYLESWAR November 1, 2020 10:53 AM GMT
siralex is it only media tipsters you follow or are there any good amateur tipsters who operate on the social media sites etc?
Report FOYLESWAR November 1, 2020 10:53 AM GMT
siralex is it only media tipsters you follow or are there any good amateur tipsters who operate on the social media sites etc?
Report Billy Liddell November 1, 2020 11:54 AM GMT
AH finished off October in style with a 1pt EW Unplaced, another 1pt EW Unplaced, a Non Runner, a 1pt Win at 100/30 and a 1pt 3/1 winner beating one of mine by a short head to finish the month over 59pts in profit and is now 214pts in profit for the year..

                                                       Well done fella, hats off to you..
Report siralex November 1, 2020 8:17 PM GMT
Foyleswar - I follow them from everywhere. Twitter, websites, racing post, here, Facebook, tipster competitions. Have 125 different ones I have used in the last 9 years. Currently tracking 30 and backing around 5-10 of them each day.
Report grayhawk November 1, 2020 10:24 PM GMT
Siralex...does Andy show a profit for the year @ Betfair SP?
Report Billy Liddell November 2, 2020 12:13 PM GMT
Amazingly he took off for October on the day I started posting his selections on the 10th October, before that he had made about 7pts profit in the first ten days of that month. With lock-down he has had approx seven months of betting before October and made 22pts profit on average each month to his prices..
Report siralex November 5, 2020 9:15 PM GMT
He is in profit but certainly not worth backing at bsp. Wouldn’t be worth it with much better out there at bsp. Definitely the most consistent around for the longest time. Just a shame about the price issues.
Report dibdob November 6, 2020 6:22 AM GMT
He tipped up like a 5 or 6 fold ante post acca that landed for one of the big meetings (think it was Cheltenham) most were at big prices.

Doubt he really needs to work anymore after that win.
Report Billy Liddell November 6, 2020 8:17 AM GMT
He is still knocking out the winners and had a 2pts NAP coming good yesterday, his other 1pt EW came unstuck though with someone called Billy Liddell picking the 13/2 winnerLaugh
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