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ashleigh
19 Sep 20 14:37
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1-45 navan, no form at all, 16/1 into 2/1.Scared
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Report sixtwosix October 10, 2020 12:57 PM BST
8/13 or 13/2  come sp time ????
Report portmanpark October 10, 2020 1:06 PM BST
8\13
Report ashleigh October 10, 2020 4:05 PM BST
easy to back at ev.Laugh
Report ashleigh October 10, 2020 4:08 PM BST
hated the ground.Laugh
Report hulk23 October 10, 2020 4:09 PM BST
scrambled home ...
Report bettinghelp October 10, 2020 4:09 PM BST
Handicapper's just said he's now rating it 2lbs behind Enable.
Report chavman October 10, 2020 4:28 PM BST
double landed for trainer
Report MJK October 10, 2020 4:39 PM BST
I assume this was also the worst race ever?
Report sixtwosix October 13, 2020 1:33 PM BST
1/2 today ......
free money ???
Report ashleigh October 13, 2020 5:54 PM BST
needs another 19 lbs on it's back.Crazy
Report MJK October 13, 2020 5:57 PM BST
Another worst race ever no doubt that's the only reason it won...
Report wisewords October 13, 2020 5:57 PM BST
it's too easy for Dreal Deal
Report loper October 13, 2020 5:58 PM BST
He would have pissed up at 7f, to be sure, to be sure.
Report cloone river October 13, 2020 7:19 PM BST
Going up 26 pounds.
Report ashleigh October 28, 2020 11:58 AM GMT
returns today in the ladies hcp hurdle at punchestown, now 22lbs higher over hurdles, and on the drift this morning.Surprised
Report ashleigh October 28, 2020 2:26 PM GMT
taken him on with walking on glass.Scared
Report Movewiththetimes October 28, 2020 2:29 PM GMT
GL with the jockey on board Scared
Report ashleigh October 28, 2020 2:31 PM GMT
needs another 22lb hike.Crazy
Report hulk23 October 28, 2020 2:32 PM GMT
jockey on board Silly cool as you like, 2 stone in hand like ...
Report sparrow October 28, 2020 2:34 PM GMT
Just shows what can happen when they bring these horses back to life.
Report ashleigh October 28, 2020 2:34 PM GMT
as ruby said, jamie would be proud.Laugh
Report hulk23 October 28, 2020 2:34 PM GMT
16/1 for that navan race .... must've been about 4 stone well in
Report loper October 28, 2020 2:37 PM GMT
Which race at the Cheltenham Festival?
Report Gordon63 October 28, 2020 2:38 PM GMT
maxine o'sullivan rode from the front to win the foxhunters and was coolness personified there from way off the pace, very good ride - how much more improvement does this horse have?
Report sparrow October 28, 2020 2:39 PM GMT
A year in the life of Dreal Deal.



19Sep20
    Nav HcH 5K    2m6f    Gd    10-4 t    1/15 by 6½L Myladyrose 10-2    6/4F    Mr E P O'Brien7    84    80    108
08Aug20
    Cor str Hc 5K    7f    Gd    9-6 t    12/18 btn 7¾L Youceeyouceecee 9-11    100/1    M A Enright    50    18    37
10Jul20
    Cur Md 8K    1m    Y    10-2 t    13/13 btn 24L Carrytheone 9-4    200/1    M A Enright    —    —    36
03Jul20
    Nav Md 6K    2m    Y    11-5 t    10/18 btn 45L Felix Desjy 11-12    250/1    Mr E P O'Brien7    —    4    31
17Jun20
    Gow Md 6K    1m1½f    Gd    9-4 t    13/15 btn 24L Winner Takes Itall 9-6    100/1    D O'Keeffe5    —    —    31
85 days break
24Mar20
    Clo HcH 5K    2m    Sft    10-13 t1    12/16 btn 51L Shantou Sisu 11-8    16/1    Mr E P O'Brien7    87    —    49
04Mar20
    Clo HcH 5K    2m2½f    Hy    11-3    8/13 btn 64L Shopping Around 12-5    16/1    Mr E P O'Brien7    87    —    36
19Jan20
    Ayr C5MdH 3K    2m4½f    Hy    11-5 p1    8/8 btn 61L Mayo Star 11-5    40/1    A P Cawley    —    —    59
28Dec19
    Lim HcH 6K    2m5f    Hy    10-5    11/16 btn 58L Frere Fontaine 10-11    20/1    M Hamill3    88    —    45
07Dec19
    Nav 4yMdH 7K    2m    Sft    11-4    21/26 btn 66L Festival D'ex 11-7    100/1    M Hamill3    —    27    64
02Nov19
    Dro MdH 8K    2m½f    Sft    11-6    10/17 btn 75L Envoi Allen 11-12    66/1    M Hamill3    —    —    64
28Sep19
    Nav MdH 7K    2m    Gd    11-8    17/25 btn 34L Advanced Virgo 11-3    50/1    D E Mullins    —    40    84
Report Brian October 28, 2020 2:51 PM GMT
That 6/4 in the Navan handicap may not have been a bad priceGrin
Report onlooker October 28, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
How did he come across this horse - he has had it all it's career - bought by an agent, 18 months ago  after it was placed in 2 Point-to-Points  - and, more importantly ... how  did he know what he had.

It's Not as if he has a stableful of Cheltenham horses at home.

First Foal of an Unraced DAM - 

The grandam had thrown the Winner of just one race  from 21 Runners

It's another Phar Lap ... It's becoming a Hollywood Film.
Report ribero1 October 28, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
I suggested the Stayers earlier Loper but just realised he's still a novice so maybe next season,lol.
Report loper October 28, 2020 3:11 PM GMT
Same as me Ribero.
Report ribero1 October 28, 2020 3:12 PM GMT
He's got the jam man maybe to judge it with? I was told he used to get on with Hills but apart from a couple of sweeteners he was 6 out of 6 when he meant it hence they've got shut of him.
Report loper October 28, 2020 3:18 PM GMT
How did he come across this horse - he has had it all it's career - bought by an agent, 18 months ago  after it was placed in 2 Point-to-Points  - and, more importantly ... how  did he know what he had.

I would imagine that having had whatever magic surgery has solved Dreal Deal's problems he has galloped him with The Jam Man and pissed all over him.
Report onlooker October 28, 2020 3:43 PM GMT
Yes - loper - and riber1 - I was obviously  aware of The Jam Man, and a couple of other gambles ...

I should have phrased my 'futuristic observation' a bit better.
Report loper October 28, 2020 3:57 PM GMT
Sorry, didn't see Ribero's post.Blush
Report onlooker October 28, 2020 4:14 PM GMT
Trainer Ronan said ...

"It was a nice performance and I didn't really know what to expect today going up 22lbs, the ground was changed and he was up in grade. The handicapper was right to be fair, he told me he thought he was right and we are happy," said McNally.

"To win four-in-a-row with any horse is amazing but I paid a lot of money for him and I'm delighted it has worked out.

"Ciaran Fennessy advised me to buy the horse and he has never put me far wrong yet and he sold me See Double U, Da Baba Elephant and The Jam Man. He has never put me far wrong with a horse yet and I trust him - when he tells me he has one for me to buy I don't even go and look at the horse, I just transfer the money and go and get it. He is a big part of this whole success.

"Maxine has ridden this horse in schooling races when he was young and it made sense to go for a Ladies Handicap Hurdle which may have been a wee bit weaker than a normal 0-116 race.

"Maxine is as good a rider in Ireland and was ultra cool on him; I was actually panicking turning for home and was saying 'move forward' but she knew what she had and read the race brilliantly.

"He is in at Cork on Sunday but I'll ask the handicapper as it depends on what he is going to do. Ideally I don't want to go to Cork but if the handicapper is going to be hard I'll have to run and then give him a break until the spring as he is more a good ground horse.

"We all want to go to Cheltenham in the spring but he is not as good as that yet. He needs to go up to 130-135 to go to Cheltenham and is a long way off that yet but you can dream."
Report sparrow October 28, 2020 4:26 PM GMT
Yes we could all tell after 6 races what a great buy he was!!
Report hulk23 October 28, 2020 4:26 PM GMT
market certainly knows when Da Baba Elephant will be winning and when it won't ..
Report ribero1 October 28, 2020 4:36 PM GMT
"Ask the handicapper" lol.
Report sixtwosix October 28, 2020 7:43 PM GMT
When does that 26 pound rise kick in ?
Report cloone river October 28, 2020 7:57 PM GMT
He went up 26 pounds on the flat and will get probably get another 16 pounds to his hurdle rating.A good horse.
Report cloone river October 30, 2020 4:52 PM GMT
I was wrong the 16 pounds due to go up another 28 pounds for his hurdle rating.A bit harsh for his win?
Report ashleigh October 30, 2020 5:36 PM GMT
ideally don't want to go to cork on sunday, but the handicapper might be hard on her, runs in the 3-53 at cork, with maxine o'sullivan keeping the ride.
Report Dodadae2 October 31, 2020 11:46 PM GMT
50lb hike in hurdle rating for two wins. Supposedly 23lb well in on Sunday running with 5lb penalty.
Report 1st time poster November 1, 2020 10:45 AM GMT
never win again trainer said after 1st 19lb rise
trainer now thinks he,s better than vincent obrien  Laugh
Report ashleigh November 1, 2020 3:49 PM GMT
how confidently is maxine going to ride him back over 2 miles, take it up on the run in?
Report Poppydog. November 1, 2020 3:59 PM GMT
£1/2 Million traded on the beast well just after the off

More to come In Running
Report hulk23 November 1, 2020 4:03 PM GMT
he needs to stop saying it's had a busy time of it, these are little more than exercise canters, it's stones better than the horses it's running against ...
Report ashleigh November 1, 2020 4:06 PM GMT
got an entry at newbury on thursday over 3 miles.Wink
Report 1st time poster November 1, 2020 6:18 PM GMT
does the trainer still think handicapper has stopped him wsith 19lb rise, LaughLaughLaugh,trainer going to be a laughing stock when it finally reaches its ceiling,
Report onlooker November 8, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
Now  he goes and Wins  100,000 euro Handicap Chase - with = THE JAM MAN

OWNER/TRAINED  - of course.
   Happy
Report chavman November 8, 2020 3:23 PM GMT
and the jam man won wit a stone in hand-whats he feeding these horses...nitroglycerin ?
Report loper November 8, 2020 3:54 PM GMT
The Jam Man won off 129 which obviously underestimates his ability.

We can assume that Dreal Deal pissed all over The Jam Man at home to start the wholesale gamble at the start of his current run of success.

If we assume they were carrying similar weights during that home gallop then Dreal Deal has plenty of rope before the h'capper hauls him in.
Report ribero1 November 8, 2020 5:07 PM GMT
When he first puts his money down it would appear he likes to make sure they've at least 3 - 4 stone in hand as obviously in Dreal Deal and The Jam Man last year at Southwell.
Report smirnoff2therescue November 8, 2020 9:28 PM GMT
and why notCoolCoolCool
Report 1st time poster November 9, 2020 11:22 AM GMT
the trainer interviewed on ruk mentioned real deal been rated at 140 without a care in the the world ,said it couldnt win of 118 6 weeks ago, LaughLaugh
Report duncan idaho November 9, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
The Jam Man merely won as hurdles form suggested he could if jumping soundly, which he did...not sure he's the sort of horse you'd be gauging others against on the gallops, tho (the opposite of a morning glory if his racing style is anything to go by)...could be 2021 Ces horse too
Report Dodadae2 November 9, 2020 11:58 PM GMT
Been shoved up 21lb by handicapper for that. Presumably  back over the smaller obstacles next time
Report ashleigh December 17, 2020 6:36 PM GMT
now 57lb higher than for his first win, rated 141 by the irish handicapper and 143 by english, next planned race is the grade 1 challow hurdle on dec 27th at newbury.
will be some performance if he can that.
Report ashleigh January 17, 2021 10:59 AM GMT
didn't take up the grade 1 challow hurdle, runs in the the grade 2 at punchestown today, trainer says  his preparation for this has not been ideal. new jockey on today in d o'regan. and tipped by ts.
 
will be some improvement if he can win this.Laugh
Report ashleigh January 17, 2021 1:11 PM GMT
no big gamble today.Laugh
Report cloone river January 17, 2021 1:16 PM GMT
At the price he is now 14/1 or so he is worth a bet just to trade out.
Report ashleigh January 17, 2021 1:22 PM GMT
out to 30 on here, the power of tsLaugh
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:22 PM GMT
8,s to 20,s still shovelling it on,just a different button
Report ashleigh January 17, 2021 1:26 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report shoodacoodadidnt January 17, 2021 1:26 PM GMT
Different class! :D
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 17, 2021 1:27 PM GMT
Looked a hopeless cause around the bend

32            £2,391       
34            £519       
36            £185       
38            £229       
40            £171       
42            £110       
44            £127       
46            £14       
48        £1    £16       
50            £20       
55            £28       
60            £9       
65            £1       
70        £3    £32       
75            £3       
80            £74       
85            £4       
90            £3       
95            £11       
100        £3    £14       
110        £0    £54       
120            £15       
130            £80       
140        £0    £31       
150            £3       
160            £1       
170            £1       
180        £0    £1       
190        £0    £2       
200        £0    £0       
210        £0    £1       
220            £4       
230            £0       
240        £0    £0
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:27 PM GMT
Laugh
Report chavman January 17, 2021 1:27 PM GMT
no fkin way..ShockedLaughLaugh
Report shoodacoodadidnt January 17, 2021 1:27 PM GMT
Champion hurdle next? :D
Report Gaze733 January 17, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
Ran like a 5 to 30 drifter. Clown market laying a horse with a hat trick at those odds.
Report Vince_Bluett January 17, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
Has a horse ever drifted like that on here and won before?

Wasn't it something like 5.5-40? Surprised
Report geoff m January 17, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
won like an odds on shot!!
Report flukes January 17, 2021 1:28 PM GMT
Betfair Sp 30, touched 200 in running
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 17, 2021 1:29 PM GMT
Should had saved it for the betfair hurdle.
Report cloone river January 17, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
The form horse.
Report geoff m January 17, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
No wonder they bet it from 16s into 2s off 84 with a 7lb claimerLaughLaugh
Report Gaze733 January 17, 2021 1:30 PM GMT
ATR top tip, why didn't the market listen?
Report screaming from beneaththewaves January 17, 2021 1:31 PM GMT
Would have been the all-time-great SP-around-the-betting-shops job.

Just a pity all the betting shops are shut.
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:31 PM GMT
somone adminmistered the wrong carrots by mistake,trainer will be foooking fuming
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:35 PM GMT
hoping it was the wrong bag of carrots and it was connections laying the arse out of it,you,v got be connected to lay a 4,s shot at 40,s,
havnt you
Report geoff m January 17, 2021 1:35 PM GMT
Beaten 1/2 the track in 2 hcap hurdles in March off 87???
Report cloone river January 17, 2021 1:39 PM GMT
The yard had a virus at that time geoff.
Report geoff m January 17, 2021 1:42 PM GMT
there was i thinking it might have not been run on its merits Cloone.  What a mistaker to maker
Report vantastic54 January 17, 2021 1:43 PM GMT
The market got it badly wrong.Just how good is this horse?Might be difficult to turn down offers now.
Report geoff m January 17, 2021 1:44 PM GMT
makes yer wonder tho who(why) was behind the massive drift.

Certainly looked iffy!!
Report Gaze733 January 17, 2021 1:45 PM GMT
hulk
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:46 PM GMT
they had the winning prize money to play with,if it was connections laying it to death
Report cloone river January 17, 2021 1:47 PM GMT
Should go for the supreme novice.
Report howard January 17, 2021 1:50 PM GMT
16's from 66/1 paddy power cloone
Report howard January 17, 2021 1:56 PM GMT
some very stupid/twisted minds on here. punters thought the horse was too short up in class.  and then others followed the drift because it was gambling connections.
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 1:59 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh,
you seriously think someone not in the no lays a horse at 40,s he could have laid at any price from 5.0,
now haway, Laugh
Report cloone river January 17, 2021 2:01 PM GMT
A few get badly burned.The way the race was run suited a closer.The profile of the horse remines me of Brave Inca.
Report ashleigh January 17, 2021 2:13 PM GMT
trainer saying the target is the supreme or the ballymore.
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 2:22 PM GMT
strike me as a yard who,d stop at nothing to win a few bob,so massive prize money at chelts , and massive liquidity in markets gives lots of rolom for fun and games, Devil
Report ribero1 January 17, 2021 2:29 PM GMT
What's the record for how much a horse has gone up in a season? it's definitely the biggest p1sstake of the season.
Report Magic__Daps January 17, 2021 2:54 PM GMT
Hunt ball went up a touch.
Report ribero1 January 17, 2021 3:00 PM GMT
Good one Magic,just checked,69 then won at the festival off 142,obviously went up after and won off 155 the next season.
Report Bentring January 17, 2021 3:02 PM GMT
You should knott be talking about English trained horses
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 3:20 PM GMT
trainer to obrien
we thought it would need the run,improve loads from here
obrien to trainer,
so it was you laying the life out of it,

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh,
maybe not
Report 1st time poster January 17, 2021 3:33 PM GMT
popular ,topical horse must have cost bookioes offering BOG ,EVEN THOSE WHO DONT OFFER IT TILL ON THE DAY,plenty
Report Storm Alert January 17, 2021 3:35 PM GMT
So it turns out Dreal Deal had about 3 stone in hand last September. Laugh I wonder when connections knew they had a decent horse and how much of a po that race was given the spectacular price collapse?
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