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Report driver2 September 6, 2020 5:48 AM BST
Pinatubo and Siskin lay their reputations on the line today, with both needing to show that they truly stay the mile. I would love to see Pinatubo bolt up, but I fear that Circus Maximus might find the 3 year olds out and although I wont have a bet, 6/1 makes looks value  to me.
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 7:14 AM BST
What a Race in prospect.Excited
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 8:53 AM BST
When you think about it acey, we've had some great racing this year, despite the circumstances and hopefully there's much more to come!
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 9:05 AM BST
go back far enough and persian king has claims on his beating of magna grecia who thumped circus maximus in the futurity ,trip no problem and a double figga price ,circus maximus is a battler and also a decent price around 6/1 these 2 will do for me .
Report FatPunt September 6, 2020 9:25 AM BST
I like Siskin. Going to put a line through the Goodwood run and have a bit of 4.8. Still not convinced that Pinatubo gets a mile and the biggest danger could well come from the older horses. Never been a big fan of Victor Ludorum. Good luck to all if punting.
Report chavman September 6, 2020 9:30 AM BST
pinatubo isnt a miler imo.

at evens id be a layer.
Report impossible123 September 6, 2020 10:00 AM BST
Pinatubo clearly has stamina doubt over 8f so why are connections running him? He's down for the Floret (a 7f race) on Arc Day. The ground is good to soft (not too soft I hope). I cannot have Siskin given his behaviour loading up, and I think he was outstayed in the less testing 8f Sussex Stakes trip; Persian King giving weight to the youngsters could be beyond him.

But, Circus Maximus is consistent and tough. I think the heavy ground was against him last time. A contest between Pinatubo (if he's held up a bit longer) and Circus Maximus for victory.
Report Hibore September 6, 2020 10:21 AM BST
Question marks  over Pinatubo staying a fast run mile, Siskin disappointing when had run of the race at Goodwood and Circus beatable in this grade. VICTOR LUDORUM dropping back in trip to his impressive win in French 2000.  8/1 is much too big.
Report penzance September 6, 2020 11:23 AM BST
Siskin,still think this is a class act
   GL ALL
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 11:44 AM BST
9/1 365 atm hibore
Report Deptford September 6, 2020 12:32 PM BST
6/5 to 2/7 beat in first.
Report Charlton2005 September 6, 2020 12:33 PM BST
Persian king e/w for me
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 12:41 PM BST
I'm wondering why Will Buick has deserted Pinatubo, one of Godolphin's high profile colts. I know the excuse is that he wouldn't want to miss the Leger meeting, but there has to be more to it. I reckon that he's been offered the choice of AOB rides, including Santiago, which he was in the frame for anyway along with Frankie and Oisin and I fully expect to see him onboard the Leger fav.
Report penzance September 6, 2020 12:50 PM BST
nothing to do with that.Buick can partner
Ghaiyyath if he runs in Ireland.
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 1:08 PM BST
He could do that anyway penzance, didn't you notice that Ryan Moore rides Circus Maximus today?
Report ashleigh September 6, 2020 1:27 PM BST
r moore not riding at donny, w buick plenty of booked rides.Wink
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 1:36 PM BST
Oh dear, I don't know why I bother.
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 1:43 PM BST
I just cant split any of them so i am going with the best Jockey... Circus Maximus for me.Wink
Report stewarts rise September 6, 2020 2:45 PM BST
A race where you could make a good case for all of them,best watched  but I am quite surprised that Persian King is the outsider of the field, might do a Back/ lay for a small interest.
Report penzance September 6, 2020 3:04 PM BST
it's to do with the quarantine rules.
Doyle has to do what Detorri did.
Report Andrew.in.Sweden September 6, 2020 3:13 PM BST
I agree with Stewarts except i think Victor Ludorom could win now dropped in trip, but my bet is a lay of the favorite.
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 3:14 PM BST
Yes penzance, Ryan Moore as well, but they can both ride in Ireland during Champions weekend. I am just surprised that Buick has ditched Pinatubo for his rides at Donny.
Report Mat22 September 6, 2020 3:18 PM BST
Pinatubo For me.
Coming 2nd to palace pier at Ascot looks strong form.
A cracking Race in Prospect!
G.L.
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:21 PM BST
romanised the only one not mentioned here .............you know what will happenLaugh
Report Schraderbrau September 6, 2020 3:21 PM BST
Romanised should (opinyunz) have been promoted to winner of this race last year when beaten by Circus Maximus. I'd like to see him take some revenge. He actually looked in good nick when beaten 11 lengths on heavy ground last time, given an easy time of it in the last furlong, keeps him in shape for ideal ground here.
Report Schraderbrau September 6, 2020 3:21 PM BST
oh, theres yer mention
Report Bogalar September 6, 2020 3:24 PM BST
Circus Maximus for me. Siskin to follow him home.
Report Lampus September 6, 2020 3:32 PM BST
Thank you ANDREW HappyHappy
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:32 PM BST
ahem ................booooooooooom ..i thank you
Report Deptford September 6, 2020 3:33 PM BST
Well done Foyles
Report Mat22 September 6, 2020 3:33 PM BST
WD Winners.
Report racing6699 September 6, 2020 3:33 PM BST
Jockeys again
Report penzance September 6, 2020 3:34 PM BST
wd
   GL
Pinatubo was given a mountain to
climb.
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 3:34 PM BST
Foyle is the man now lump the lot on Dominic Thiem Tomorrow.Wink
Report hulk23 September 6, 2020 3:34 PM BST
call the police if you backed pinatubo, you've just been robbed.
Report brians September 6, 2020 3:35 PM BST
More excuses from atr for pinatubo. I think he is a bit of a villain. Or the jockey was a bit of a twit. Shades of the Derby ?
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 3:35 PM BST
Doyle could not lace Buicks boots ffs.
Report A_T September 6, 2020 3:35 PM BST
Foyles tipped 3 so which one won?
Report ashleigh September 6, 2020 3:35 PM BST
well done winners, pierre-charles boudot the best jockey riding at the moment.Happy
Report impossible123 September 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
Persian King and jockey won the races; Doyle was sleeping.
Report Storm Alert September 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
WD Foyles. I couldn't go back that far. I guess the ground was the reason he was hammered by Circus last time. Still a good time for me to take break until the Arc I think as nothing has gone for me in UK, US or France this weekend.
Report EastLower Gooner September 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
Yes...good pick....had the perfect set up with Ryan thinking he was in July Cup.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY September 6, 2020 3:36 PM BST
Siskin bubble popped.... not a top quality group 1 horse...pintubo best horse in race, got done by the pace angle.

Siskin couldn't even run down CM who had run his race by the 3 pole
Report reins September 6, 2020 3:37 PM BST
James Doyle hang your head in shame.
Report Charlton2005 September 6, 2020 3:37 PM BST
A_T
06 Sep 20 15:35
Joined: 27 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 9,019 | Blogger: A_T's blog
Foyles tipped 3 so which one won


the one I tipped Cool
Report portmanpark September 6, 2020 3:38 PM BST
charlton...foyles is an honest poster..good bloke
Report tanglefoot September 6, 2020 3:38 PM BST
Get Dettori to ride Pinatubo
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:39 PM BST
i tipped 2 a t
Report A_T September 6, 2020 3:40 PM BST
no much there to worry Gosden
Report ReaseHeath September 6, 2020 3:40 PM BST
Did n't have a bet but it looked like Godolphin had decided Siskin was the main danger and tracked him accordingly.

Happens regularly - why don't they just ride the race as it pans out? It's a Group 1, all the horses are competitive...
Report Charlton2005 September 6, 2020 3:42 PM BST
portmanpark
06 Sep 20 15:38
Joined: 07 Dec 03 | Topic/replies: 6,696 | Blogger: portmanpark's blog
charlton...foyles is an honest poster..good bloke


?
Report tanglefoot September 6, 2020 3:45 PM BST
Rease,I think that’s what happened Doyle thinking Siskin was the horse to track and fell asleep at a vital stage of the race.
Report portmanpark September 6, 2020 3:45 PM BST
foyles tipped 3 you said....not a true statement
Report tanglefoot September 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
Not sure he would have beaten the winner,but would have made a race of it.
Report Charlton2005 September 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
portmanpark
06 Sep 20 15:45
Joined: 07 Dec 03 | Topic/replies: 6,697 | Blogger: portmanpark's blog
foyles tipped 3 you said....not a true statement


read the whole thread fella
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
read it again portman ..........AT POSTED THAT SLANDEROUS,MY LAWYERS ARE IN MOTION Laugh STATEMENT NOT CHARLTON
Report A_T September 6, 2020 3:47 PM BST
that was me - to be fair he only tipped 2 (very bold in a 6 runner) - Romanised he only mentioned. Just a bit surprised at all the backslapping - maybe he can give us his lottery numbers.
Report penzance September 6, 2020 3:48 PM BST
backed PK lto when he was hammered.
Could'nt have him here,big turn around
with Circus Maximus.
Report FatPunt September 6, 2020 3:48 PM BST
Taking Siskin off my tracker. Knew my fate before the off. Not quite a top level performer. No excuses for that performance.
Report driver2 September 6, 2020 3:49 PM BST
Two things we've learned is that Pinatubo stays the mile and Buick is a better judge of pace than Doyle.
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:50 PM BST
FFS CANT EVEN PUT IT UP RIGHT ..............AT POSTED THAT SCANDELOUS STAEMENT ,MY LAWYERS ARE ACTING AS WE SPEAK Laugh NOT CHARLTON , THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS PORTMAN .
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 3:51 PM BST
Anybody that thinks Doyle is a better Jockey than Buick needs to have a long hard look at themselves ffs.Plain
Report FOYLESWAR September 6, 2020 3:52 PM BST
12/1 TAKEN THIS MORNING LADS AND 365 .12S  WINNER NOT TO BE SNEEZED AT
Report chavman September 6, 2020 3:56 PM BST
was that on the first or second tip
Report GEORGE.B September 6, 2020 3:57 PM BST
Well done Foyles
Report GEORGE.B September 6, 2020 3:58 PM BST
acey deucy 06 Sep 20 15:51 
Anybody that thinks Doyle is a better Jockey than Buick needs to have a long hard look at themselves ffs


I think we need to call in the jockey ratings expert at this point, stand by...

Come in Wondersobright, come in Wondersobright...
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 4:02 PM BST
Exspurts?...Dont make me laugh ffs.LaughLaugh
Report GEORGE.B September 6, 2020 4:03 PM BST
Buick does at least make the table here, but this smacks of opportunity as much as anything else

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/eight-riders-who-have-been-world-number-one/
Report impossible123 September 6, 2020 4:11 PM BST
A form boost for Sottsass who beat Persian King easily over 10f last season; Pinatubo will never catch Persian King who stays 8f well and given an easy lead. Pinatubo barely just about stays the distance; Circus Maximus cut his own throat by tearing off in front.
Report A_T September 6, 2020 4:15 PM BST
you honestly think that boosts Sottsass?
Report stewarts rise September 6, 2020 4:21 PM BST
Didn't need to lay anything off IR, as had him in an ew double with Frankstella at 4/1, got 10/1 for Persian King, nice 54/1 double, pity the 3rd leg was already beaten.
Report greenteethnarrabacktroutmoy September 6, 2020 4:30 PM BST
i dont think doyle done a lot wrong..pino was being nudged along wen winner burst clear..hardly caught napping imo.
Report HonkyJoe September 6, 2020 4:40 PM BST
Based on that we can hardly say Pinatubo can't stay the mile.  PK is a very good horse, and he was given a soft lead. Pretty much unbeatable under those circumstances.
Report HonkyJoe September 6, 2020 4:48 PM BST
If Doyle had ridden closer to the pace and not quite made it, many would be saying he should have hung back and made one big move late on. (Having said that, I suspect Frankie would have won with Pinatubo. But there aren't many who compare to him..)
Report impossible123 September 6, 2020 7:20 PM BST
We know 8f is stretching Pinatubo stamina to the limit. However, it's one thing to be held back, and another to give a soft lead to a good horse that won the French 2000G and finished 2nd in the French Derby to Sottsass starting fav. If his stamina was a major concerned why run him over 8f again?

Appleby and Doyle did not cover themselves in glory today.
Report penzance September 6, 2020 7:46 PM BST
don't know what Appleby did wrong?
take the winner out of the equation
Pinatubo's won by 6Ls.
Report acey deucy September 6, 2020 7:49 PM BST
Appleby and Doyle did not cover themselves in glory today....Come on impossible your talking sh1te.
Report chavman September 6, 2020 8:17 PM BST
i cant get why theyre determined to get a mile out of the horse when hed clean up all the top races over 6 and 7 furlongs
Report impossible123 September 6, 2020 10:11 PM BST
^^
It could be his commercial value as a sire if securing an 8f Gp 1 win, I think .

Ran 8f each time got stuffed; 7f bingo! Is the Sussex less testing than Moulin?
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