Prix du Moulin

Pinatubo and Siskin lay their reputations on the line today, with both needing to show that they truly stay the mile. I would love to see Pinatubo bolt up, but I fear that Circus Maximus might find the 3 year olds out and although I wont have a bet, 6/1 makes looks value  to me.

What a Race in prospect.

When you think about it acey, we've had some great racing this year, despite the circumstances and hopefully there's much more to come!

go back far enough and persian king has claims on his beating of magna grecia who thumped circus maximus in the futurity ,trip no problem and a double figga price ,circus maximus is a battler and also a decent price around 6/1 these 2 will do for me .

I like Siskin. Going to put a line through the Goodwood run and have a bit of 4.8. Still not convinced that Pinatubo gets a mile and the biggest danger could well come from the older horses. Never been a big fan of Victor Ludorum. Good luck to all if punting.

pinatubo isnt a miler imo.

at evens id be a layer.

Pinatubo clearly has stamina doubt over 8f so why are connections running him? He's down for the Floret (a 7f race) on Arc Day. The ground is good to soft (not too soft I hope). I cannot have Siskin given his behaviour loading up, and I think he was outstayed in the less testing 8f Sussex Stakes trip; Persian King giving weight to the youngsters could be beyond him.

But, Circus Maximus is consistent and tough. I think the heavy ground was against him last time. A contest between Pinatubo (if he's held up a bit longer) and Circus Maximus for victory.

Question marks  over Pinatubo staying a fast run mile, Siskin disappointing when had run of the race at Goodwood and Circus beatable in this grade. VICTOR LUDORUM dropping back in trip to his impressive win in French 2000.  8/1 is much too big.

Siskin,still think this is a class act
   GL ALL

9/1 365 atm hibore

6/5 to 2/7 beat in first.

Persian king e/w for me

I'm wondering why Will Buick has deserted Pinatubo, one of Godolphin's high profile colts. I know the excuse is that he wouldn't want to miss the Leger meeting, but there has to be more to it. I reckon that he's been offered the choice of AOB rides, including Santiago, which he was in the frame for anyway along with Frankie and Oisin and I fully expect to see him onboard the Leger fav.

nothing to do with that.Buick can partner
Ghaiyyath if he runs in Ireland.

He could do that anyway penzance, didn't you notice that Ryan Moore rides Circus Maximus today?

r moore not riding at donny, w buick plenty of booked rides.

Oh dear, I don't know why I bother.

I just cant split any of them so i am going with the best Jockey... Circus Maximus for me.

A race where you could make a good case for all of them,best watched  but I am quite surprised that Persian King is the outsider of the field, might do a Back/ lay for a small interest.

it's to do with the quarantine rules.
Doyle has to do what Detorri did.

I agree with Stewarts except i think Victor Ludorom could win now dropped in trip, but my bet is a lay of the favorite.

Yes penzance, Ryan Moore as well, but they can both ride in Ireland during Champions weekend. I am just surprised that Buick has ditched Pinatubo for his rides at Donny.

Pinatubo For me.
Coming 2nd to palace pier at Ascot looks strong form.
A cracking Race in Prospect!
G.L.

romanised the only one not mentioned here .............you know what will happen

Romanised should (opinyunz) have been promoted to winner of this race last year when beaten by Circus Maximus. I'd like to see him take some revenge. He actually looked in good nick when beaten 11 lengths on heavy ground last time, given an easy time of it in the last furlong, keeps him in shape for ideal ground here.

oh, theres yer mention

Circus Maximus for me. Siskin to follow him home.

Thank you ANDREW

ahem ................booooooooooom ..i thank you

Well done Foyles

WD Winners.

Jockeys again

wd
   GL
Pinatubo was given a mountain to
climb.

Foyle is the man now lump the lot on Dominic Thiem Tomorrow.

call the police if you backed pinatubo, you've just been robbed.

More excuses from atr for pinatubo. I think he is a bit of a villain. Or the jockey was a bit of a twit. Shades of the Derby ?

Doyle could not lace Buicks boots ffs.

Foyles tipped 3 so which one won?

well done winners, pierre-charles boudot the best jockey riding at the moment.

Persian King and jockey won the races; Doyle was sleeping.

WD Foyles. I couldn't go back that far. I guess the ground was the reason he was hammered by Circus last time. Still a good time for me to take break until the Arc I think as nothing has gone for me in UK, US or France this weekend.

Yes...good pick....had the perfect set up with Ryan thinking he was in July Cup.

Siskin bubble popped.... not a top quality group 1 horse...pintubo best horse in race, got done by the pace angle.

Siskin couldn't even run down CM who had run his race by the 3 pole

James Doyle hang your head in shame.

A_T
06 Sep 20 15:35
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Foyles tipped 3 so which one won

the one I tipped

charlton...foyles is an honest poster..good bloke

Get Dettori to ride Pinatubo

i tipped 2 a t

no much there to worry Gosden

Did n't have a bet but it looked like Godolphin had decided Siskin was the main danger and tracked him accordingly.

Happens regularly - why don't they just ride the race as it pans out? It's a Group 1, all the horses are competitive...

portmanpark
06 Sep 20 15:38
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charlton...foyles is an honest poster..good bloke

?

Rease,I think that’s what happened Doyle thinking Siskin was the horse to track and fell asleep at a vital stage of the race.

foyles tipped 3 you said....not a true statement

Not sure he would have beaten the winner,but would have made a race of it.

portmanpark
06 Sep 20 15:45
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foyles tipped 3 you said....not a true statement

read the whole thread fella

read it again portman ..........AT POSTED THAT SLANDEROUS,MY LAWYERS ARE IN MOTION STATEMENT NOT CHARLTON

that was me - to be fair he only tipped 2 (very bold in a 6 runner) - Romanised he only mentioned. Just a bit surprised at all the backslapping - maybe he can give us his lottery numbers.

backed PK lto when he was hammered.
Could'nt have him here,big turn around
with Circus Maximus.

Taking Siskin off my tracker. Knew my fate before the off. Not quite a top level performer. No excuses for that performance.

Two things we've learned is that Pinatubo stays the mile and Buick is a better judge of pace than Doyle.

FFS CANT EVEN PUT IT UP RIGHT ..............AT POSTED THAT SCANDELOUS STAEMENT ,MY LAWYERS ARE ACTING AS WE SPEAK NOT CHARLTON , THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS PORTMAN .

Anybody that thinks Doyle is a better Jockey than Buick needs to have a long hard look at themselves ffs.

12/1 TAKEN THIS MORNING LADS AND 365 .12S  WINNER NOT TO BE SNEEZED AT

was that on the first or second tip

Well done Foyles

acey deucy 06 Sep 20 15:51 
Anybody that thinks Doyle is a better Jockey than Buick needs to have a long hard look at themselves ffs

I think we need to call in the jockey ratings expert at this point, stand by...

Come in Wondersobright, come in Wondersobright...

Exspurts?...Dont make me laugh ffs.

Buick does at least make the table here, but this smacks of opportunity as much as anything else

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/eight-riders-who-have-been-world-number-one/

A form boost for Sottsass who beat Persian King easily over 10f last season; Pinatubo will never catch Persian King who stays 8f well and given an easy lead. Pinatubo barely just about stays the distance; Circus Maximus cut his own throat by tearing off in front.

you honestly think that boosts Sottsass?

Didn't need to lay anything off IR, as had him in an ew double with Frankstella at 4/1, got 10/1 for Persian King, nice 54/1 double, pity the 3rd leg was already beaten.

i dont think doyle done a lot wrong..pino was being nudged along wen winner burst clear..hardly caught napping imo.

Based on that we can hardly say Pinatubo can't stay the mile.  PK is a very good horse, and he was given a soft lead. Pretty much unbeatable under those circumstances.

If Doyle had ridden closer to the pace and not quite made it, many would be saying he should have hung back and made one big move late on. (Having said that, I suspect Frankie would have won with Pinatubo. But there aren't many who compare to him..)

We know 8f is stretching Pinatubo stamina to the limit. However, it's one thing to be held back, and another to give a soft lead to a good horse that won the French 2000G and finished 2nd in the French Derby to Sottsass starting fav. If his stamina was a major concerned why run him over 8f again?

Appleby and Doyle did not cover themselves in glory today.

don't know what Appleby did wrong?
take the winner out of the equation
Pinatubo's won by 6Ls.

Appleby and Doyle did not cover themselves in glory today....Come on impossible your talking sh1te.

i cant get why theyre determined to get a mile out of the horse when hed clean up all the top races over 6 and 7 furlongs

^^
It could be his commercial value as a sire if securing an 8f Gp 1 win, I think .

Ran 8f each time got stuffed; 7f bingo! Is the Sussex less testing than Moulin?