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Willie Shafter.
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Report dustybin June 27, 2020 4:44 PM BST
come on WS stop this
You can win long term, and without going to the track.
Its just a facade to wanting to win more, even though you arnt financilly motivated
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 4:51 PM BST
Numerian         320    2.00         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    2.00
Numerian         300    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         90    1.47         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    1.47
Numerian         320    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         320    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         320    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         320    0.02         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.02
Numerian         320    0.03         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.03
Numerian         320    0.04         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.04
Numerian         320    0.13         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.13
Numerian         80    0.57         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.57
Numerian         220    0.40         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.40
Numerian         220    0.40         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.40
Numerian         120    2.27         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    2.27
Numerian         320    1.82         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    1.82
Numerian         200    0.06         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.06
Numerian         85    0.91         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.91
Numerian         95    0.23         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.23
Numerian         95    0.87         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.87
Numerian         200    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         200    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         250    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         300    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Numerian         320    0.04         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.04

Sir Dragonet         470    0.18         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.18
Sir Dragonet         600    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         500    0.12         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.12
Sir Dragonet         820    0.18         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.18
Sir Dragonet         55    2.00         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    2.00
Sir Dragonet         690    0.10         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.10
Sir Dragonet         950    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         140    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         390    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         950    0.04         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.04
Sir Dragonet         400    0.09         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.09
Sir Dragonet         30    0.13         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.13
Sir Dragonet         30    0.50         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.50
Sir Dragonet         48    0.50         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.50
Sir Dragonet         48    0.50         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.50
Sir Dragonet         95    0.50         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.50
Sir Dragonet         95    0.50         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.50
Sir Dragonet         220    0.40         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.40
Sir Dragonet         220    0.40         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.40
Sir Dragonet         440    0.06         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.06
Sir Dragonet         940    0.06         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.06
Sir Dragonet         600    0.18         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.18
Sir Dragonet         650    0.15         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.15
Sir Dragonet         100    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         100    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         150    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         200    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         200    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         250    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         300    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         300    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         350    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         400    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         400    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         450    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         500    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         500    0.01         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.01
Sir Dragonet         90    0.51         Lay    27-Jun-20 16:47    27-Jun-20 16:47    0.51

1L down 2 out and 1L down 1 out..should i have clicked earlier ? Laugh
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 4:55 PM BST
aye you should've clicked earlier Mr.Hunt...

but if you don't have the guts...
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 5:00 PM BST
are they your 1p's hibs?
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 5:01 PM BST
i don't speak about my horse bets on here Mr.Hunt...
Report Jack Bauer '24' June 27, 2020 5:13 PM BST
Poor liquidity and a declining number of players is the main issue, and the only way Betfair can stop the decline is to provide pictures half a second behind live for every track and to get rid of the premium charge. I won't be holding my breath.
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 5:15 PM BST
shafter spotted at newcastle in the trading boxes, centre

Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 5:22 PM BST
heres an old pic from hexam last year

Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 5:46 PM BST
its 'hexham' james.
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 5:50 PM BST
you've got him rattled now james...

sniping at a typo really is low grade stuff Mr.Hunt...
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 5:50 PM BST
right enough!  just jesting anyway willy
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 5:51 PM BST
agree with jack, get the pics to .5 behind live all tracks, it's 2020 ffs
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 6:05 PM BST
you'll do well to rattle me hibs..but by all means continue..most efficacious.
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 6:06 PM BST
hibs i'll sort you a seat out in Musselburgh box next meeting?
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 6:07 PM BST
i'm not attempting to rattle you Mr.Hunt...

you've done an excellent job of that yourself...

trust me when i tell you that the vast majority of folk who read this will come to the conclusion that you have completely lost the plot and made a fool of yourself on this thread...

so don't let me stop you...
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 6:10 PM BST
thanx for the offer Mr.Hunt but it doesn't interest me in the slightest...

i'd rather have my two front teeth taken out with a pair of rusty pliers tbh...
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 6:18 PM BST
just as i assumed..another 1.01 landed.
Report HappyHibby June 27, 2020 6:22 PM BST
why is that then...?

have i ever said on here i wanted to go in to a mucky box on a racecourse...?

i've always said that sort of thing doesn't interest me in the slightest...

so no need to pat yourself on the back Mr.Hunt...
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 6:39 PM BST
scatological rhetoric is your forte.
Report chavman June 27, 2020 6:42 PM BST
heard Rkellys doing a school disco tour next year willie
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 6:51 PM BST
what relevance has that to this thread craig please?
Report chavman June 27, 2020 6:58 PM BST
ok...just for clarification willie....

what the boys want to know is why is the bot beating you at home but not the track...simple question
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:01 PM BST
it isnt..everything is bot related now..just at track you get the 1st sweep until the bot calculates the current overound.
Report dustybin June 27, 2020 7:05 PM BST
Laugh
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:05 PM BST
do you understand you are contradicting yourself willy
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:07 PM BST
james..why cant you beat a fruit machine? have you googled it yet
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:09 PM BST
what i will says is this..today ive found it as hard as ive ever known..and 3-4 others have said the same.
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:09 PM BST
so why are you paying thousands of pounds to try and beat 'the fruit machine' at the track?
Report dustybin June 27, 2020 7:09 PM BST
Comfirmation bias.
The 'easy money' has long gone as the margin between first and last seing something happen has diminished.
It means that there less money hanging around to mop up as others have seen what others have around the same time
The ones at the track see it fractionally ahead...so take advantage of that fact

Its not that those at the track bet before the bot wakes up.
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:11 PM BST
its £120 a day james for the 1st bite...hardly thousands in retrospect is it..

the big apple its now called.
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:13 PM BST
Grin

you wont be moaning about the bot when you are at the track 1+ sec ahead 1.01
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:13 PM BST
it's thousands over a month
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:13 PM BST
gray you're an intelligent lad..you've seen my examples earlier today..are you disputing everything is now managed by the bot?
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:15 PM BST
how you found today jd?
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:18 PM BST
Horse Racing: £1,208.63  Total P&L:  £1,208.63

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 34 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 1m Hcap    27-Jun-20 19:00    27-Jun-20 19:04    22.15
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 5f Listed Stks    27-Jun-20 18:45    27-Jun-20 18:47    0.65
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 1m Hcap    27-Jun-20 18:30    27-Jun-20 18:35    3.62
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 18:15    27-Jun-20 18:21    35.72
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:55    27-Jun-20 17:58    0.33
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 1m Listed Stks    27-Jun-20 17:45    27-Jun-20 17:48    24.13
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m4f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:35    27-Jun-20 17:40    17.41
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 6f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:25    27-Jun-20 17:27    15.99
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 6f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:15    27-Jun-20 17:20    13.01
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m4f Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 17:00    27-Jun-20 17:05    4.91
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 6f Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 16:55    27-Jun-20 16:58    18.11
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 1m2f Grp3    27-Jun-20 16:45    27-Jun-20 16:48    18.25
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 16:40    27-Jun-20 16:44    12.84
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 16:25    27-Jun-20 16:28    17.82
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 5f Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 16:20    27-Jun-20 16:22    1.68
Horse Racing / Redc 27th Jun : 5f Hcap    27-Jun-20 16:00    27-Jun-20 16:19    2.69
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 1m2f Mdn    27-Jun-20 16:15    27-Jun-20 16:17    9.69
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 2m Hcap    27-Jun-20 16:10    27-Jun-20 16:14    12.33
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    27-Jun-20 15:50    27-Jun-20 15:53    7.84
Horse Racing / Redc 27th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    27-Jun-20 15:25    27-Jun-20 15:48    15.68

worst ive ever known..cringeworthy.
Report dustybin June 27, 2020 7:20 PM BST
In regard all bets get matched through a bot instead of P2P yes I agree.
But nobody truely knows the algorithm as to how much cut the bot has out of each matched bet
All you see different, in my view between on and off course is that you catch people who havnt seen what you have
Whereas off course you are in with everyone else....
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:20 PM BST
how can you be complaining about winning £1200 from home ffs
Report dustybin June 27, 2020 7:20 PM BST
Horse Racing: £914.15  Total P&L:  £914.15

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 20 of 35 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 1m Hcap     27-Jun-20 19:00     27-Jun-20 19:04     95.68

And I bet with 5ers
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:21 PM BST
grind here, rtv has been for a while though


Horse Racing: £444.00  Total P&L:  £444.00

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 26 markets
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:26 PM BST
you hammered a photo or 2 today willy?
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:30 PM BST
aye 800 from 2 fotos
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:31 PM BST
2.05 and 2.15pm races?
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:31 PM BST
aye tht so looking at other amounts, still a good day, wd
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:32 PM BST
and you dusty, thats some going betting 5rs
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 7:34 PM BST
Horse Racing: £434.00  Total P&L:  £434.00

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 27 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 1m4f Grp1    27-Jun-20 19:15    27-Jun-20 19:18    -10.00
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 1m Hcap    27-Jun-20 18:30    27-Jun-20 18:35    68.31
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 18:15    27-Jun-20 18:21    -33.39
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:55    27-Jun-20 17:58    -10.00
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m4f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:35    27-Jun-20 17:40    0.44
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 6f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:25    27-Jun-20 17:27    72.52
Horse Racing / Curr 27th Jun : 6f Hcap    27-Jun-20 17:15    27-Jun-20 17:20    25.48
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m4f Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 17:00    27-Jun-20 17:05    14.50
Horse Racing / Ling 27th Jun : 6f Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 16:55    27-Jun-20 16:58    -8.00
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 16:40    27-Jun-20 16:44    25.48
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m Nov Stks    27-Jun-20 16:25    27-Jun-20 16:28    10.07
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    27-Jun-20 15:50    27-Jun-20 15:53    5.59
Horse Racing / Redc 27th Jun : 1m2f Hcap    27-Jun-20 15:25    27-Jun-20 15:48    0.01
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 2m Hcap    27-Jun-20 15:35    27-Jun-20 15:39    9.39
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 1m2f Listed    27-Jun-20 15:15    27-Jun-20 15:19    11.18
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 1m2f Grp 3    27-Jun-20 15:00    27-Jun-20 15:04    2.96
Horse Racing / Redc 27th Jun : 1m Hcap    27-Jun-20 14:50    27-Jun-20 14:56    -10.00
Horse Racing / Newc 27th Jun : 5f Hcap    27-Jun-20 14:25    27-Jun-20 14:29    25.48
Horse Racing / Redc 27th Jun : 1m Hcap    27-Jun-20 14:15    27-Jun-20 14:20    62.50
Horse Racing / Newm 27th Jun : 7f Hcap    27-Jun-20 14:05    27-Jun-20 14:08    94.08
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:34 PM BST
gray..up it to tenners imo.
Report stewarty b June 27, 2020 7:38 PM BST
steve, haven't read all the thread but would I be correct in saying that the bots would catch up with the fast pics eventually?
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:50 PM BST
the whole ir game is governed by bots stew..soon as you knock the % out of sync it calculates the overounds in millisecs and dishes out what it deems necessary.
Report Willie Shafter. June 27, 2020 7:50 PM BST
hence the dozens of pennie matches.
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 8:04 PM BST
Personally, I don't think the bot is the issue.
Happy to take the bot on on a level playing field pic wise, betfair need to get the fast lv out then we all have a good chance imo
Report jamesdean June 27, 2020 8:05 PM BST
but we've been here before, so im off Plain
Report PeteTheBloke June 27, 2020 9:04 PM BST
I don't know much about all this, but wouldn't it stop if BF totally banned 1p bets? It seems
unfair that the bots can use 1p markers up and down the scale so that they can detect every
bit of activity without having to risk anything. If all those were £2 they'd be getting it
stuck into them instead of vice versa.

Or am I talking sh1te?
Report Latalomne June 28, 2020 7:07 AM BST
It's the BF cross-matching bot that is responsible for most of them, Pete.
Report dustybin June 28, 2020 7:55 AM BST
gray..up it to tenners imo.
Laugh
I sometimes have more than 1 fiver on Cool

Truth is it doesn’t really matter how much I have my stakes, there’s only so much money to match available.
Report PeteTheBloke June 28, 2020 8:40 AM BST
>>It's the BF cross-matching bot that is responsible for most of them, Pete.

Ah, right. I see.
Report Willie Shafter. June 28, 2020 10:26 AM BST
who do you think runs it pete Wink
Report ekbalko June 28, 2020 3:05 PM BST
The amount matched on the Windsor winner looked like a place market.
Report Willie Shafter. June 28, 2020 3:17 PM BST
never known a day like it..struggling to get a tenner
Report Big Cat June 28, 2020 3:41 PM BST
So, in essence, a BF bot creams off anything that's out of line? BF profit from this, in addition to commission & PC? So it's an Exchange, but one with AI that stops folk from winning?
In theory... asking for a friend
Report Big Cat June 28, 2020 3:45 PM BST
One thing I have noticed, is the Exchange doesn't 'like' me backing a selection and simultaneously laying the field. The lay bets only get matched at or very near to the price requested. I only get matched at better odds on the back part of the bet, or if I chode to back or lay, but not both
Hope that makes sense... but something is not as it should be
Report geoff m June 28, 2020 3:56 PM BST
Ive never known it so easy with in running as @ present however pre race lays are driving me up the wall!!!!!!!!!!!
cant believe how many winners/place lays that have kicked me in the gonads big time.
Report ItsMeSwaddle June 28, 2020 6:39 PM BST
Been easier recently yes.
Report RacingLuck June 28, 2020 7:59 PM BST

Jun 28, 2020 -- 3:17PM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


never known a day like it..struggling to get a tenner


was okay for the 6 races i done Happy tbh willie last year i was averaging less i reckon... fair yes the first 2 weeks back it was alot easier than the last week or so but im still up on what id normally
get... its clear people now have access to faster pics at rtv either by direct link by a hand full of people or by there own skypers or callers which would of been hard to setup the first week or 2...atr/spr i find it alot easier as it must be more direct than rtv as we know rtv that is purposely delayed atm everyone can surely agree on that Crazy someone is taking the direct feed of it and selling it to a hand full of players..

only way we can get it back to the first 2 weeks is for rtv to get there finger out and give us 0.6 behind or less it would improve everything even liquidity..
bot or no bot it would improve alot

willie you said a week or 2 into racing back that you would be happy not to go back to track for the way it was playing and i agreed too and could only imagine how well it would work with 0.6 behind to get rid of the hand full of callers that was surely at each track..so what the bot wasnt playing then or tunrned up? thats bollox.. after 2 weeks everyone started not getting involved as much cause they knew we was miles behind still and we apparently still dont even know the times a month in...less people play its easier to upset the race %...reason why less play is when they have a feeling loads are ahead of them Love

Horse Racing: £113.00  Total P&L:  £113.00

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 6 of 6 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Ham 28th Jun : 1m Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 13:45    28-Jun-20 13:48    21.27
Horse Racing / Wind 28th Jun : 1m Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 13:20    28-Jun-20 13:24    24.20
Horse Racing / Newm 28th Jun : 1m Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 13:00    28-Jun-20 13:03    3.05
Horse Racing / Wind 28th Jun : 1m Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 12:45    28-Jun-20 12:49    23.78
Horse Racing / Wind 28th Jun : 5f Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 12:15    28-Jun-20 12:21    17.48
Horse Racing / Ham 28th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks    28-Jun-20 12:00    28-Jun-20 12:04    23.22

Report Willie Shafter. June 28, 2020 9:59 PM BST
so what the bot wasnt playing then or tunrned up? thats bollox..

with respect,how so you know its bollox?
Report RacingLuck June 28, 2020 10:25 PM BST
why would the bot not be running first 2 weeks? just one day they remembered oh **** the bots not on Laugh or everyones making too much money better crank it up Silly
Report Willie Shafter. June 28, 2020 11:14 PM BST
how long you been doing this ?
Report Movewiththetimes June 29, 2020 12:48 AM BST
Be very silly to bite the hand what feeds you imho.
Report Movewiththetimes June 29, 2020 12:48 AM BST
Be very silly to bite the hand what feeds you imho.
Report JetLoneStar June 29, 2020 11:25 AM BST
As good a read as this is, any news from bootman?Laugh
Report par June 29, 2020 11:39 AM BST
you boys seem to be doing ok, 400 quid a day sat in your underpants betting horses is alright
Report puzzledpunter June 29, 2020 4:31 PM BST
willie are u making £££££££3 today?
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 5:23 PM BST
No bot today Cool

Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:10    02-Jul-20 17:12    143.06
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Jul : 5f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:00    02-Jul-20 17:02    35.02
Horse Racing / Bath 2nd Jul : 1m Mdn Stks    02-Jul-20 16:50    02-Jul-20 16:55    9.68
Horse Racing / Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Mdn    02-Jul-20 16:40    02-Jul-20 16:43    3.33
Horse Racing / Belle 2nd Jul : 2m1f Hcap    02-Jul-20 16:30    02-Jul-20 16:35    152.72
Horse Racing / Catt 2nd Jul : 1m4f Class Stks    02-Jul-20 16:25    02-Jul-20 16:33    4.67
Horse Racing / Bath 2nd Jul : 1m Hcap    02-Jul-20 16:15    02-Jul-20 16:19    94.39
Horse Racing / Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Mdn    02-Jul-20 16:10    02-Jul-20 16:11    85.28
Horse Racing / Belle 2nd Jul : 1m Hcap    02-Jul-20 16:00    02-Jul-20 16:03    -0.52
Horse Racing / Catt 2nd Jul : 1m4f Class Stks    02-Jul-20 15:50    02-Jul-20 15:54    10.80
Horse Racing / Bath 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 15:40    02-Jul-20 15:43    11.90
Horse Racing / Belle 2nd Jul : 1m Mdn    02-Jul-20 15:30    02-Jul-20 15:34    102.03
Horse Racing / Bath 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 15:10    02-Jul-20 15:13    11.46
Horse Racing / Belle 2nd Jul : 1m Mdn    02-Jul-20 15:00    02-Jul-20 15:06    19.06

Horse Racing > Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Myrcella    *    20.27    151.57    Lay         151.57
Take My Hand    169.08    3.93    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:12    3.93
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    155.50
Market subtotal:    155.50
Commission @ 8%:    12.44
Net Market Total:    143.06


Horse Racing > Belle 2nd Jul : 2m1f Hcap    Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Dalileo    *    37.97    76.00    Lay         76.00
With A Start    *    9.59    90.00    Lay         90.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    166.00
Market subtotal:    166.00
Commission @ 8%:    13.28
Net Market Total:    152.72
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 5:31 PM BST
geeso racing its not took you long to post a p+l Laugh

wd btw Cool
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 5:39 PM BST
cheers only done a few thats me done for the day now best of luck Love

Horse Racing: £885.13  Total P&L:  £885.13

Horse Racing > Bath 2nd Jul : 1m2f Hcap    Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Rock Of Fame    5.00    31.04    Back    02-Jul-20 17:27    -31.04
Rock Of Fame    *    19.20    206.00    Lay         206.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -31.04
Lay subtotal:    206.00
Market subtotal:    174.96
Commission @ 8%:    14.00
Net Market Total:    160.96
Report puzzledpunter July 2, 2020 5:41 PM BST
kudos to you rl, you and willie are inspiring
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 5:46 PM BST
Good bet that! Grin

Was that live or in photo the lay?
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 7:08 PM BST
live? they were level from 1 out till line.
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 7:30 PM BST
You hacked racings account Confused
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 7:34 PM BST
wish i could..the amounts hes been getting you'd struggle pre race Laugh
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 7:48 PM BST
you see how easy it played on sky rtv other day when the lv was down?

Seemingly it's a doddle on sky every time the lv is down Shocked
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 7:50 PM BST
i dont think anything is easy anytime.
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 7:52 PM BST
easy is probably an exaggeration tbf

'easier' more apt
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 7:53 PM BST
Anything on that photo Leicester other day?

Lost on it here Sad
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 7:55 PM BST
Horse Racing / Leic 30th Jun : 7f Hcap    30-Jun-20 18:15    30-Jun-20 18:20    49.21
Horse Racing / Chep 30th Jun : 6f Mdn Stks    30-Jun-20 18:00    30-Jun-20 18:03    68.12
Horse Racing / Leic 30th Jun : 6f Hcap    30-Jun-20 17:45    30-Jun-20 17:50    337.72
Horse Racing / Chep 30th Jun : 5f Hcap    30-Jun-20 17:30    30-Jun-20 17:31    28.31
Horse Racing / Leic 30th Jun : 5f Hcap    30-Jun-20 17:15    30-Jun-20 17:19    18.80
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 7:57 PM BST
got my money Cry
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 7:58 PM BST
you've prob had some of mine before Grin
Report jamesdean July 2, 2020 8:03 PM BST
Horse Racing / Leic 30th Jun : 6f Hcap    30-Jun-20 17:45    30-Jun-20 17:50    -400.00
Report Wesdag July 2, 2020 8:05 PM BST
Shocked
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 8:54 PM BST
James - the odds 1.60 was live on the line Cool the rest was photo plenty of liquidity Wink


Horse Racing > Bath 2nd Jul : 1m2f Hcap    Showing 1 - 16 of 16 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Rock Of Fame    5.00    31.04    Back    02-Jul-20 17:27    -31.04
Rock Of Fame    55.00    12.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    12.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    12.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    12.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    26.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    26.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    7.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    12.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    12.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    7.00
Rock Of Fame    22.51    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    7.00
Rock Of Fame    24.00    12.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    12.00
Rock Of Fame    24.00    26.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    26.00
Rock Of Fame    24.00    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    7.00
Rock Of Fame    25.93    26.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    26.00
Rock Of Fame    51.49    12.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    12.00
Rock Of Fame    87.23    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:28    7.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    7.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    7.00
Rock Of Fame    1.60    26.00    Lay    02-Jul-20 17:27    26.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -31.04
Lay subtotal:    206.00
Market subtotal:    174.96
Commission @ 8%:    14.00
Net Market Total:    160.96
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 9:35 PM BST
came back for the grand Cool sligo was playing wel, amazing how better it is since they turned off the 1 second inplay delay Mischief

Horse Racing: £1,020.86  Total P&L:  £1,020.86

Horse Racing    Showing 1 - 20 of 22 markets
Market    Start time    Settled date    Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Jul : 1m4f Mdn Stks    02-Jul-20 21:00    02-Jul-20 21:23    24.31
Horse Racing / Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:40    02-Jul-20 17:43    110.40
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:30    02-Jul-20 17:33    1.02
Horse Racing / Bath 2nd Jul : 1m2f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:20    02-Jul-20 17:30    160.96
Horse Racing / Sligo 2nd Jul : 6f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:10    02-Jul-20 17:12    143.06
Horse Racing / Wolv 2nd Jul : 5f Hcap    02-Jul-20 17:00    02-Jul-20 17:02    35.02
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 10:13 PM BST
laying horses in last 10yds when you can barely split them is for guessers rl..ws you got iy right.

least you got the silver..again Wink
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 10:23 PM BST
Myrcella    *    20.27    151.57    Lay         151.57

bigger mystery how you managed that..Confused
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 10:27 PM BST
i clicked on the line, was surprised at odds when photo opened so greened up at 5s before laying again
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 10:38 PM BST
Myrcella    *    20.27    151.57    Lay         151.57

bigger mystery how you managed that..


why is that a mystery?
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 10:57 PM BST
do i need to explain?
Report Willie Shafter. July 2, 2020 11:01 PM BST
and as you know..you cant get matched on the line as it takes 1 sec for bet to process.
Report RacingLuck July 2, 2020 11:17 PM BST
you get matched at what you offer Cool

i would never in a million years lay that horse until it got to the line Blush it didn't suspend my bet got in clearly
Report RacingLuck July 3, 2020 12:46 PM BST
Did you have to click that 2nd horse at 1000 willie? Silly

Horse Racing > Hayd 3rd Jul : 6f Mdn Stks    Showing 1 - 2 of 2 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Famille Rose    *    33.36    63.28    Lay         63.28
Red Fascinator    188.70    5.00    Lay    03-Jul-20 12:33    5.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    0.00
Lay subtotal:    68.28
Market subtotal:    68.28
Commission @ 8%:    5.46
Net Market Total:    62.82
Report Willie Shafter. July 3, 2020 1:00 PM BST
ive enough gold medals to melt them down.
Report puzzledpunter July 3, 2020 1:44 PM BST
i have only got copper ones at mo
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