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Diff-rent
10 Jun 20 17:20
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I missed the racing but not this rubbish.
Pause Switch to Standard View Every blo0dy day 40/1 or 33s winning....
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Report elisjohn June 10, 2020 5:25 PM BST
watch next week then when r ascot on, we,ll be lucky to get  1 fav in the whole  meeting, bookies loads of money to claw back havent they
Report onlooker June 10, 2020 5:51 PM BST
Every blo0dy day 40/1 or 33s winning. Sort it out please.

'Sort it out'   Laugh
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Report RothmanMike June 10, 2020 6:05 PM BST
Never happens in Australia Grin
Report hulk23 June 10, 2020 6:15 PM BST
000600 ... 1 Happy
Report ericster June 10, 2020 6:21 PM BST
Same old same old,
you know the score Diff,
it is what it is.
Report sparrow June 10, 2020 6:27 PM BST
I blame brexit.
Report workrider June 10, 2020 6:55 PM BST
Many on here seem to think it only happens in Ireland, just looked at the Wolves results, looks as if they noted your complaint! Diff rent.
Report 11kv June 10, 2020 7:00 PM BST
It's not that bad Hollie's riding Josephine at Kempton.....Laugh
Report sparrow June 10, 2020 7:00 PM BST
Yes workrider it's been very punter friendly at Wolves tonight.
Report Diff-rent June 10, 2020 7:45 PM BST
Elisjohn, scary thing is you could be right (Bookies).
Report Diff-rent June 10, 2020 7:46 PM BST
It's just so difficult at the moment. I like to lay outsiders leading in a race. But they ain't coming back!! Been a bad few days for me.
Report onlooker June 10, 2020 7:53 PM BST
Diff-rent 10 Jun 20 18:46

It's just so difficult at the moment. I like to lay outsiders leading in a race. But they ain't coming back!! Been a bad few days for me.
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Well - THAT is NOT somebody else's fault ... for THEM to - "sort it out"... is it?

Never, ever, seem such a SELFISH minded, and short-sighted,  Thread in all my time on here. Happy
Report The Knight June 11, 2020 10:31 AM BST
Is this thread a wind-up? Got to be.

So, racing did nothing for 11 weeks and then returned with larger average field sizes than normal. The going on its return was good to firm after weeks of hot weather and then it changed to soft because it rained. And punters wonder why results have been hard to fathom?

Personally, and I will not be the only one, I've not had a single bet since resumption, preferring to see how things panned out. But, on top of this, the OP seems to have forgotten that, in the fullness of time, results will balance themselves out and we will end up with the age-old average strike rate for favourites of between 32% to 34%.

Sadly, perhaps those currently moaning about the perceived poor results should not be betting anyway, as they clearly don't appreciate that successful punting is a marathon not a sprint.

But for exactly those type of punters here is some valuable advice - cut back your stakes and even stop until you feel results have turned. You will be furious if you do your brains now and then don't have enough ammunition to take advantage come the time when results turn back for a while.

After 48 years of backing horses, and on much else as well, I can tell you that results are never as simple as a clear 33% of winning favourities every day. No, for some unfathomable reason results tend to happen in batches. Some good batches, then some bad ones. The trick is to appreciate this and sit tight through the latter.
Report barry dennis June 11, 2020 10:49 AM BST
Last week 8/9 favs lingfield, does that count
Report barry dennis June 11, 2020 10:53 AM BST
Actually you’re right, bookmakers bribe the trainers,owners,jockeys and horses to let outsiders win, only fair innit
Report Ramruma June 11, 2020 10:57 AM BST
@barry dennis says 8/9 Leafy jollies last Friday but his shocking omission is that Ziggle Pops scored at 22/1, thus proving the OP's case that somebody should sort it out.

No good for me mind since I back at the longer prices but in these difficult times, we must all make sacrifices.
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 11:08 AM BST
Backers and Layers on here so what exactly should be sorted out?
Report Diff-rent June 11, 2020 11:50 AM BST
Watch todays results....

What will be the biggest odds winner ?

Wild guess we will have a 33/1 win somewhere.

Only a matter of time before a 66/1 wins.

June is a well known month to favour Favourites as most punters already know from experience.
Report Diff-rent June 11, 2020 11:51 AM BST
If people can't see some of these results ARE bent...  Well I'm surprised and shocked.
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 1:45 PM BST
Don't whinge, set the alarm , get up at 3am, and fill your boots.
Done it now for 12 weeks, works for me Happy
Report gambeano June 11, 2020 1:54 PM BST
40/1 winner in a 7-runner field at Compiegne this morning and a 25/1 winner at Beverley just now to keep things ticking over :)
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 2:08 PM BST
In Australia, they don't allow runners in double figures to win.
Think it's the law down there!
Report sixtwosix June 11, 2020 2:09 PM BST
True .....no such thing as a 100/1 winner of the Melbourne Cup.
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 2:12 PM BST
473/1 BSP won in oz the other day Scared
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 2:13 PM BST
Exception to every rule.
But I missed that one,where was it?
Report six_six_six June 11, 2020 2:16 PM BST
If outsiders never won it would be a bloody easy game wouldn't it?
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 2:21 PM BST
Don't know too many who can be arsed to get up every morning @ 3pm to bet horses, even if it was
money for old rope.
Do you?
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 2:22 PM BST
Another at Beverley
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 2:23 PM BST
218/1 sp purple LaughLaugh
Report Fire-and-Ice June 11, 2020 2:23 PM BST
80/1 shot scrapes home by 3 lengths Grin
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 2:24 PM BST
218/1 wins as it should do.Shocked
Report xmoneyx June 11, 2020 2:25 PM BST
lets double it 80/1 Excited
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 2:26 PM BST
Any one who bets in novice races with hardly any form,should not be surprised.
Report ColeWorldNoBlanket June 11, 2020 2:27 PM BST
Two who finished nowhere last week at Newcastle win at Beverley easily today, 25/1 and 80/1
Report xmoneyx June 11, 2020 2:28 PM BST
RP

50-1 when finishing well down the field over 6f at Newcastle last week.Cry
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 2:35 PM BST
Notabadharada, Kensington 3rd June

SP 150/1  472/1 here.
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 2:45 PM BST
I always find it strange how many people always state the bookmakers price when it could be more than double on here.
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 2:49 PM BST
the market on here is win only, bookmaker prices are win or e/w
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 2:51 PM BST
you will go broke laying 150/1-200/1 e/w the bev winner
Report VinylStar June 11, 2020 2:52 PM BST
Able to put bet in on 15:00 Gowran....
Report Diff-rent June 11, 2020 3:17 PM BST
It's ridiculous what's going on. Some are blaming the going...  Got to laugh at that one.  Ground same for them all.
Report RothmanMike June 11, 2020 3:32 PM BST
Hulk, just checked that result at Kensington (aka Royal Randwick).
Don't know how I missed that, varied from 70.0 to 201.0 on the TAB betting shows.
I must have looked when it was less than 101.0, and gave it a swerve.
Dodged a bullet there.
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 3:35 PM BST
As ever you ignore the fact that the bookmaker bet is restricted to level stakes so you cannot back 30% win and 70% place with a bookmaker. We are not all layers on here.
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 3:37 PM BST
Above to wondersobright.
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 3:46 PM BST
sparrow • June 11, 2020 2:45 PM BST
I always find it strange how many people always state the bookmakers price


because that is industry practice...as I've explained bookmaker prices are for win or e/w
that is how it has always been & is the format that most horse racing punters (the vast majority of which are not using the machine) require prices for

see you again on another thread next week where no doubt you will make the exact same point again
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 3:49 PM BST
looked like the 380/1 shot was coming to win that one ... traded at 6/1 ScaredHappy
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 3:49 PM BST

Jun 11, 2020 -- 9:35AM, sparrow wrote:


As ever you ignore the fact that the bookmaker bet is restricted to level stakes so you cannot back 30% win and 70% place with a bookmaker. We are not all layers on here.


and if you want to do that then you come on here to do it

that's got sweet fa to do with your 2.45pm post

Report sparrow June 11, 2020 3:51 PM BST
And you will continue in your bookmaker mode wonders as if we were stood in a betting shop instead of a betfair forum.
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 3:55 PM BST
no sparrow I am machine punter but I understand the need for a win or e/w industry price as the vast majority of horse racing bets struck are not on the machine
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 4:06 PM BST
if you walk into a bookie & want £1 on a 218/1 shot. win only.  why do you only get 80/1 ?  you're not betting e/w ..
Report wondersobright June 11, 2020 4:18 PM BST
because the 80/1 is not from a win only market
Report hulk23 June 11, 2020 4:41 PM BST
so i'm betting win only, at not win only prices.  hardly seems fayre.
Report sparrow June 11, 2020 4:46 PM BST
An old fashioned bet hulk and well past it's sell by date.
Report RothmanMike June 12, 2020 2:59 AM BST
And here we go with a nice little 1/3 shot romping in at the Gold Coast Happy
Report wondersobright June 12, 2020 11:19 AM BST
hulk23 • June 11, 2020 4:41 PM BST
so i'm betting win only, at not win only prices


correct

you have a choice what to bet on & where to bet
the layers are compelled to offer a "win or e/w" price
Report xmoneyx June 12, 2020 4:09 PM BST
9 races wolv

0 favs Silly
Report xmoneyx June 13, 2020 4:24 PM BST
200/1

c fallon
Report Diff-rent June 13, 2020 4:32 PM BST
It's getting ridiculous now.
Report Diff-rent June 13, 2020 4:34 PM BST
No wind up knight. Can you explain the sudden rise of outsiders winning each day?
Report Diff-rent June 13, 2020 4:35 PM BST
Please don't say going...  All horses run on it.
Report sparrow June 13, 2020 4:35 PM BST
200+411.
Report Diff-rent June 13, 2020 6:50 PM BST
Another 100/1 just beaten by a SH.

Is there anyone on here who is backing these long price runners e/w within the last two weeks?
Report gambeano June 13, 2020 6:58 PM BST
No, but buying SP's on the spreads has been better than normal!
Report gambeano June 13, 2020 6:59 PM BST
Although the limit is 100/1, so lost out today! Crazy
Report RothmanMike June 20, 2020 5:35 AM BST
126.0 just won @ Newcastle (Australia), but fortunately missed it 'cos unraced 2-y-o with no Barrier Trials.
Be careful out there, happens all over the world .
When no form lines, you've got no chance.
Report xmoneyx June 20, 2020 1:57 PM BST
ascot top class

150/1 ExcitedWhoopsWink
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