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Emitdeb
05 Jun 20 15:27
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Think i just saw the Derby winner...

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By:
dambuster
When: 05 Jun 20 15:31
Very impressive, but what did it beat ?
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Jun 20 15:33
Jesus you are easily pleased.
By:
Hibore
When: 05 Jun 20 15:35
Very impressive.
By:
Steamship
When: 05 Jun 20 15:40
Derby 4th maybe
By:
Emitdeb
When: 05 Jun 20 15:41
No fancy Colours behind, granted but he did it mighty impressively.. Love
By:
acey deucy
When: 05 Jun 20 15:43
Would not win The Derby if it started yesterday.
By:
keeping silent
When: 05 Jun 20 15:45
Derby winner runs tomorrow at 15:00
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Jun 20 15:49
chamberlain now, english king 25/1 immediatly after the raceLaugh

it was 9 on here to lay
By:
Hibore
When: 05 Jun 20 15:51
8/1 best odds now. 5/1 fav with S Bet
By:
Hibore
When: 05 Jun 20 15:53
I just missed the 25/1 but got a good chunk at 16/1 on 365. Not sure he’ll win but I’ve got something to play with now.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Jun 20 15:54
I wouldn't have a clue as to his chance at Epsom, but hey, what a great name for a Derby winner! Cool
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Jun 20 16:18
Like many I had him on a list of horses to watch out for this season. I didn't have enough faith in Marquand/Walker at today's price.

Walker's horses hadn't done much and Marquand got jocked off Threat for Pat Dobbs last season. He still has plenty to prove.

As for the horse he definitely looks the part and was about as impressive as anyone could expect. That said perhaps punters have got (very) carried away in the aftermath as he now looks very short. 5/1 looks crazy.
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Jun 20 16:57
He looked impressively nevertheless, 7/1 jf (5/1 with sly) is barmy considering so many big guns yet to play their hand. The ground and possibly the fitness of the others played a  part in their performances too, I believe.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 05 Jun 20 17:03
Have the gallops been closed?
By:
the dealer
When: 05 Jun 20 17:10
he did what he needed to do, won easily under a good ride from Marquand. travelled well off a fast pace, cruised into contention and quickened really well. hard to knock imho. anyone sitting on double figure prices for the Derby should be well pleased. has to go there with a fighting chance regardless of what the field will be.
By:
MJK
When: 05 Jun 20 17:18
Considering it won so well on that ground are we to assume because of that if the ground changed it seriously diminishes it's chance?
By:
Emitdeb
When: 05 Jun 20 17:41
English King new Derby favourite as Walker colt slams rivals in Lingfield Trial



acey deucy

Would not win The Derby if it started yesterday.


Hmmmm... Wink
By:
Emitdeb
When: 05 Jun 20 17:43
English King is no bigger than 8-1 for the Derby after proving utterly dominant in Lingfield's Derby Trial.

In what was a fast-run race, the Ed Walker-trained colt bided his time under Tom Marquand before being delivered over a furlong out and cruising past Berkshire Rocco to run out a cosy winner. The front pair pulled well clear of third-placed Summeronsevenhills.

Bookmakers didn't go far enough in their initial reaction. Coral immediately cut him to 16-1 from 40-1 but then slashed him again to 6-1 favourite within half an hour of the race, while Sky Bet make him 5-1 favourite.

With regards to Epsom, English King ticked pretty much all the boxes here.
By:
sparrow
When: 05 Jun 20 17:45
Every year people knock the winner of the Lingfield trial but this winner must be considered for the Derby.
By:
Emitdeb
When: 05 Jun 20 17:47
If English King was owned by one of the sheiks and trained by Gosden... He'd be 6/4 Favorite.
By:
punts
When: 05 Jun 20 17:52
Saw it this morning and thought it was too short. i like the trainer he doesn't seem to mess about. Well done if you backed it!
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 05 Jun 20 17:54
He handled the track brilliantly but Derby Winners rarely come from lingfield trials iirc.
By:
hello :-)
When: 05 Jun 20 17:58
I agree sparrow , if handles Lingfield then will likely handle Epsom ,

improving and impressive so silly to rule out with likely fa more improvement to come ,but you would want more than 5s I think

but its a good point if it was from one of the top yards would be far lower right now
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Jun 20 18:04
Is there a Chester Meeting this season? Otherwise only about a month to Epsom.
By:
Hibore
When: 05 Jun 20 18:07
I can’t remember the last Lingfield Derby trial winner going onto win the Derby.
By:
the dealer
When: 05 Jun 20 18:11
im not jumping into that net Hibore
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 05 Jun 20 18:11
Anthony Van Dyck 2019
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 05 Jun 20 18:11
LaughLaugh
By:
impossible123
When: 05 Jun 20 18:14
Anthony Van ****
By:
Hibore
When: 05 Jun 20 18:16
Cool
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 05 Jun 20 18:18
unless the whole field underperformed has to be rated 110+ and sure to improve again..visually very impressive...as said,if trained by gosden would be 5/2.
By:
chavman
When: 05 Jun 20 18:23
notwithstanding the 6 obrien will probably throw at it with the usual spoiling team tactics
By:
differentdrum
When: 05 Jun 20 18:24
The idea that a horse would be so much shorter if trained by whoever is becoming less and less applicable as bookmakers become more and more cautious.

How many Group winners has Ed Walker trained? Has he even trained a Group 1 winner?

Again how many has Marquand ridden?
By:
chavman
When: 05 Jun 20 18:26
was today its derby?..can ed walker be trusted to have it 100% on the big day...
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 05 Jun 20 18:41
differentdrum 05 Jun 20 17:24   
How many Group winners has Ed Walker trained? Has he even trained a Group 1 winner?


Erm, sort of, Ed won a Sandown handicap with Glorious Forever, who went on to win a Group 1 in Hong Kong.

With regard to Classic Trials, Ed of course trained Stormy Antarctic to bolt up in what was probably a poor Craven, before flopping two weeks later in the 2000 gns. However, SA was a horse he did well with, winning a few Group races.
By:
Fire-and-Ice
When: 05 Jun 20 18:58
High Rise in 1998 was the last to win the lingfield derby trial and the derby before AVD last year
Before that the double was done in '85
Like i said, rare.
By:
cloone river
When: 05 Jun 20 19:01
You should follow Tom Marquand differentdrum he is not a bad jockey.
By:
sparrow
When: 05 Jun 20 19:15
Kahyasi in 1988 also did the double.
By:
elisjohn
When: 05 Jun 20 22:40
high rise won in a time of 2min 24, teenoso 2.54 , 30 seconds slower, god the ground must have been terrible.WHAT WAS TODAYS TIME?
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