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Gambling with it brought the crooks, even in those days!
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A few things about Lord George Bentinck. His alliance with Disraeli in opposing the Corn Laws in the 1840's brought about the present day Conservative party. He was a notorious gambler, but tried to clean up gambling, he brought in features in racing which are with us today, i.e. numbers on horses, flag starts etc, and he was at the for front of bringing Goodwood to the status it has in racing today. His ambition was to win the Derby which he never did, he sold all his horses in 1846, one of which Surplice went on to win the Derby in 1848, after which The disconsolate Lord George was discovered in the House of Commons by Disraeli. Lord George, attempting to explain his distress, asked Disraeli if he knew of the importance of the Derby; to which Disraeli replied that it was the ‘blue riband of the turf’, hence the term Blue Riband has stuck for the alternate name of the Derby, He also used to have a race named after him, the Bentinck Stakes ran at Newmarket.
https://thehistoryguide.co.uk/a-few-words-about-lord-george-bentinck/ |
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Llamedos, just read that article in full, good info, cheers.
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Strangely, in light of a theory about what happened to Gorytus, Lord Bentinck had a horse running in that 1844 Derby called Croton Oil.
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A jew? Nothing strange then.
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'Running Rein' probably wasn't the only ringer running in the race. 'Leander' broke a leg during the race and was quickly buried. He was also suspected as being a 4yo, so he was dug up, but his lower jaw was found to be missing.
Gully and Crockford had history together - in 1827, Gully lost £40,000 backing his horse Mameluke to win the St Leger, but Crockford and Robert Ridsdale bribed the starter to see that Gully's horse's chance was lost at the start. Gully was also a boxing champion. He was due to fight Henry 'Hen' Pearce ('the Game Chicken') for the championship of England in 1807 (Pearce had beaten him 2 years earlier in 64 rounds), but Pearce cried off due to ill health and retired, leaving the title vacant. Gully then fought Bob Gregson ('the Lancashire Giant') twice in 6 months (36 rounds and 24 rounds - the first time both men were so badly beaten no-one was sure who'd won - the 2nd time, Gully won). Gully then retired from boxing, having made his money. (Gregson went on to fight Tom Cribb for the title, but lost). |
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Great post Ged but I wish I hadn't read it!
I'll explain in a minute, but first the positive. I'm pretty sure that Gully was later the MP for Pontefract, having read about him many moons ago. Tom Cribb was legend in the bare knuckle era. Lord Rosebery named a horse after him in mid 70s and he was a big favourite of mine. Won a decent handicap and I won a right few bob. Northumberland Plate perhaps? The horse was well named as he was a fighter himself and wouldn't think twice about taking a bite at any horse upsides in a tight finish! ...... the bit from your post that made my stomach churn was the mention of the horse Leander in the 1844 Derby. In the 70s there was another horse called Leander. Only thing that I remember about him was that he beat me for the ITV 7! I'm pretty sure that it was the last leg, which makes a better story, but memory can play tricks. He started odds on at Newmarket and I still feel the pain suffered that day when Lester fell off leaving the stalls! Can't remember exact year but early to mid seventies? With the help of my psychiatrist I had managed to forget the entire experience but have now had a relapse reading this thread. Thanks Ged |
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Hello mac
yes, I can still see Leander running around with the saddle somewhere it shouldn't have been, either right up the neck, or under its body, so it probably wasn't Lester's fault, unless he dislodged the saddle himself when falling. |
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Regarding time and place - the race was at Doncaster, immediately preceding Nijinsky's St Leger. He was 30/100 fav in a 4-runner race, and "gave a rodeo impression leaving the stalls", and his saddle slipped, but Piggott was obviously ok to ride in the next race! He was also in the Engelhard colours at the time, trained by Jeremy Tree, but was bought by Bill Marshall for van der Ploeg the following (4yo) season.
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mac what a story ;certainly demonstrates the fortitude and strength of character needed to be a punter.
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Thanks Ged for the info on the Leander race.
Memory can play tricks on one. It was Doncaster, not Newmarket, as stated. I knew it was a small field and odds on but 30/100 Thanks Posy. When it happened I was very young and if Leander had won, which he probably would have done, it would have been a life changer at the time. Mind you it makes a better story than saying, "In 1970 I won £23,000 on the ITV 7". |
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i believe the trainer of running rein denied it was a 4 year old.....said it was more like 5 or 6
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