Utter! Utter! Madness Uttoxeter is on!

They certainly know better than Impossible.
I'mout.

" I think the Government Medical guys know far more than you, so leave it to them, there's a good lad"

Typical condescending response from someone when the truth hurts. I wonder why Mr Jeremy Hunt - our former Health Minister - and those experts in other countries like Italy, Ireland, America, and some in the EU have taken a more proactive course of action.

For goodness sake horse racing is only a sport of the minority, and a non-essential; football and F1 cancelled, and others too.

Dept spot on , The Virus Mongers all wetting their knickers over a few Death Beds being labelled corona

What better way to stir things up than calling off Sports fixtures ...

50 people will have Passed away with Pneumonia this week  we don't hear about them ??

Thousand will have gone to Flu over the winter ,No mention

Millions on the Tube and you cannot go and watch a football match in London

U cannot make it up ...

They may not always get it right but they're always the best people to have a go at getting it right

Yeah spot on case.

What is a pandemic? How does one deal with it?

Do you think Boris decides this on his own

I doubt he does his own laces up.

tory/right thinking to theend doesn't matter if you die as long as the state didn't intervene to stop giving you the choice of dying,

I123 lost all his money at Cheltenham and just wants to stop everyone else enjoying a flutter.
Utter nobhead.

Don't think the comparison with normal flu deaths can be made yet when were only a month or so into corona. It has the potential to be bad and that's enough at the moment to make us very cautious

Boris been taught how to play Hungry Hippo by Dr Strangelove so that he gets his head around 'Flattening the Sombrero'

Most of the Poor People Dying are seriously Ill , The Virus is doing them a favour ,as to Laying about in a bed for weeks Waitng for Death to arrive that's if they even have a clue whats going on ...

Might sound Harsh but if you 75 Plus and seriously Ill you have had a Good Innings , time to walk .

Underlying health conditions don't necessarily mean that they're only weeks away from death anyway.

75 is the new 60 case!!

Horse Racing is only a sport, and in the scheme of things (deadly) it's a no brainer cancelling all sporting events for the foreseeable future until covid-19 is contained, and pandemic lifted.

most of the major countries in world are in quarantine or state of emergency ,the uk,s going racing

"75 is the new 60 case!!"

Not if your riddled with Cancer or some other serious Illness

fair enough.

I think it's inevitable horse racing (in public) will be banned - it's just a matter of time - other sports have; the odds for Aintree being staged is 1.25 as opposed to 4.6 against.

casemoney 14 Mar 20 15:12   



Most of the Poor People Dying are seriously Ill , The Virus is doing them a favour ,as to Laying about in a bed for weeks Waitng for Death to arrive that's if they even have a clue whats going on ...

Might sound Harsh but if you 75 Plus and seriously Ill you have had a Good Innings , time to walk .



hows things boris ?

He'll be telling us it's prudent to declare a National Emergency with 2 weeks, I'm certain

fortunately only 44 people reading all this doom and gloom nonsense..get a life and do something useful

44 including yourself

'fortunately only 44 people reading all this doom and gloom nonsense..get a life and do something useful' yeah I am going to spend the rest of the day licking door knobs, fun times.

Mar 14, 2020 -- 10:38AM, isleham wrote:

fortunately only 44 people reading all this doom and gloom nonsense..get a life and do something useful

Said one goldfish to another

With the advances in science we now have a huge population of people who require a large, constant medical and nursing input compared to previous years and generations. This group of society appear to be at the greatest risk from CV.

It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to effectively deal with a pandemic and to continue to look after this group of people at the same time.

As I said previously the govt are damned whatever they do. People will always think they know better-probably with the benefit of hindsight.

People like Jeremy Hunt and other politicians obviously have their own agendas

Trucker's jockey kissing the owner haha

It is not all gloom and doom but it is common sense to minimise exposure considering what had happened elsewhere. I think the gov is waiting as Easter is nearby and it will be easier to have a shutdown around then than now.

It is ok for the youngsters who suffer mainly mild symptoms but for older people and those with respiratory problems it could be a death sentence.

Mar 14, 2020 -- 10:54AM, leif wrote:

Trucker's jockey kissing the owner haha

Yes, unbelievable.

Like sticking your finger up to medical guidance.

60 million in lockdown after 400 confirmed cases in wuhan, uk /west laughed at them for been slow to react ,1,500 confirmed cases in uk today

She lost her mum this week.
Corona?

FFS - 1st time poster ... 'Take a pull'

I  repeat ...

There will be/ARE far, far MORE people rammed into EVERY SUPERMARKET in the UK - at this moment - all in close proximity to each other - than out in the fresh air at such as Horse Racing meetings.

That sort of scenario will be the biggest line of transmission.

Everyone and his brother will be ringing in 8am Monday  ""Won't be in for 7 days I've got it guv"

The tube is the biggest risk isn't it? Glad not to live in London but have had several experiences there in stations of being in a crowd so packed that it is almost impossible to change either speed or direction of walking.

A professor of molecular microbiology less qualified than forumites

The saddest part of this thread is we appear to have People hoping half the Country is wiped out say as they are proved Correct .......

BE CAREFUL YOU ARE NOT AMONG THEM ...

On that note I shall leave the Doom Mongers to crack on with it ........ 

MY ADVICE IS FURIOUS WASHING OF  HANDS AND YOUR GONADS  hourly ...

Sitting around in Shyte stained underpants looking at a screen for days on end  is no good to anyone .....

..or 'they' would prefer stronger preventative measures in order that the country doesn't fall way behind the curve as has happened elsewhere?

case, I go commando and have copious amout of babywipes.

Trump blowing smoke up all the administration ars e in a press conference....

just dropped back in..down to 26..youre boring everyone to death hello

no rights or wrongs mate most of population are getting this

my advice is even tho you think its no worse than flu etc you can pass it easily to someone who could die from it so be aware and responsible   

and if you can , give your number to someone you think may be scared or vulnerable , a lot of folk are going to need help or the comfort of knowing someone is there for them

nice to see you back isleham , i thought you were of to do something useful ?

obv not an easy task for you

actually, surprise surprise, considering we are actually on a horse racing forum ive been betting on horses!!!!
so far today ive layed horses in 28 races
im a pensioner of 68 and attended cheltenham yesyerday so im betting before i pop off

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A professor of molecular microbiology less qualified than forumites

ok isleham i didn't realise

i understand its a difficult time right now

stay safe mate

is 1st time poster going to respond to onlooker's 16.11 post or not?

load of pony,you all going mad.

the blitz was real,this is mass media sensationalism.

If you were in Boris' shoes, chav, what would be your strategy?

Scramble the RAF?

ranulph fiennes better days may be behind him george

i would call up stewy in national emergency contingency situations

I watched the old Ealing 1947 film Hue And Cry the other day, now considered an important historical document as

it was shot almost entirely on location, it is now a notable historic document due to its vivid portrait of a London still showing the damage of the Second World War

i think theyre called a social document george,but anyways beside..

would i scramble stewy if i was boris,maybe

not my words, chavvers, the quote in italics was taken from the film's wiki page

I think stewy might have gone into isolation, along with 50 slabs of stella and 200 family sized packets of andrex

indeed,as did adolph in 1945,although without the equine success of our caledonian counterpart

chavvers, I sure if the virus mutates and we're all wiped out on the outside, stewy will opt for the pistol, rather than the cyanide capsule

stewy could be the last king of scotland

tommorow morning hundreds of thousands will be packed on the tube trains sitting and standing face to face then getting off at different parts of the capital and going into retail / offices/etc spreading it for 8 or so hours and then coming back onto the trains and taking it back to various parts of the country and then repeating the same for the next 5 days plus  add in manchester /birmingham and all the other citys . a few race meetings aint gonna make a difference

My annoyance with news reports about how many more people have the virus is where did they get it from. The Government appears to have stopped tracking or even recording cases unless seriously ill. The big question is at the end of March how many people have contracted the virus who went to the Cheltenham festival. Then you will know the impact of sporting fixtures.

The scariest is the carriers ie those with the virus (but not ill) could spread the virus to others who'd be more susceptible esp the elderly through the adult individuals these carriers come in contact with and who then transfer them to their elderly parents, relatives and friends.

If I'm not mistaken the London Tube and Buses are already much less occupied (I've seen videos showing a ghost platform in the Underground and bus empty during peak hours).

Boris wants it to spread.

regards the 16 11 post
most are in a supermarket less than 60 mins[ not 6 hrs ]
they don't travel there on a bus,train,50 seater coach
they don't socialise,natter away interact with tens of people,
they don't move from toilets,to bars,to food outlets, etc etc
then return by sed coaches,buses,taxis,trains, to bars, eateries,hotels,b n b.s etc,etc

and if theres queues at checkout I bet people were well spaced out as opposed to fighting for room in toilets,bars,stands,food outlets at chelt,
as a small example at chelt 8 hrs of  continually queuing at cah points ,imagine the fingers hands around them terminals

why do you think cruise ships are rife with the virus handrails,door handles. knobs, add  in for chelts money changing hands

some might say you would fall into the latter category

Having watched Matt Hancock this morning it's obvious we are all doomed anyway given he is Health Secretary,so we might as well enjoy ourselves in the next few weeks.

.... His dad Tony was quite funny too Mr S.

i would concur with your succinct synopsis salmon

"  Hancocks Half Hour ".... " The Cold ".


     https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5gj1h5

Can we rename the cobra meetings "Hancocks Half Hour " in honour of the great Man. !! ?

I won't put anything political, not much point just that virus would have arrived whoever was in charge of the country and will spread whatever they do. Yes lots of people will die, but everyone will eventually, no one escapes that fact. Enjoy your life whilst you're alive, worry about it afterwards imo!

Ah, "Hancocks Half Hour" simply the best.

The two biggest certainties in life are taxes and death. However, the latter unlike the former could be managed eg premature death, by what we do (profession); eat (diet); action we take in a crisis (behaviour); etc.

And, the present scenario is one that we have a say in. Practise sense and sensibility.

At 75 and reasonably healthy, I am quite able to be rational about all of this. The country will greatly benefit from the early death of thousands of morbidly sick patients. It will reduce the strain on hospitals, care homes and the Government will have to pay less pensions. If that includes me then so be it. Italy has already decided to remove heath care from very sick people over the age of 80. Makes sense to me and my family will get a nice legacy if I go. Does it really matter if I die at 75 or 80? Just like in war time, Politicians have to choose the lesser of 2 evils and sacrifice those with the lowest value.

Queen and Phil the Greek to set an example ?

GLASGOWCALLING15

Can we rename the cobra meetings "Hancocks Half Hour " in honour of the great Man. !! ?

Hancock's half-@rsed.

Some 70/75 are significantly more healthy and fitter that some of the whipper-snappers whose diets are fast food. mobile pones and compuetr games.

I think Matt Hancock was the Minister who cocked-up on fobt capitulating to the then Chancellor Hammond resulting in the resignation of one of his senior sports minsters Tracey  Crouch.

I think it's relatively easy for most us not facing either our own or a family/ friend's imminent death to be quite nonchalant about it but my dad died 6 months ago after a long illness and spent most of his final days worried about what his death would be like

Well yes,but I am just short of 70 and have coronary artery disease. I'm managing the essentials,but I live on my own and it's not easy at times. Don't think I'm going to get the op in the foreseeable future. Even if they are in a position to offer it me,I'm not sure I would risk it as I presumably might need oxygen at some point and I obviously have a better chance of catching IT in hospital. However I'm not prepared to lose my sense of humour.

Best wishes Salmon, let's hope the forum takes on a politer and less adversarial attitude in these difficult times

Yes, keep safe Salmon. You and I share memories of your namesake winning the Champion hurdle!

you'll both share memories of next years
one, aswell.
GL

Thanks. I promise not to mention it again as I suspect there are others on here who are worse than me.
But I agree we should try and be a bit nicer to each other genrally and on this forum.

I hope everyone here and their relatives are not affected by Covid-19. I hope come June (hopefully earlier) this predicament will be history, and everything is back to as normal as possible.

From the BBC Website -

Horse racing fixtures in Britain could take place behind closed doors within 48 hours, says the chief of Arena Racing, owners of 16 tracks.

Martin Cruddace believes restrictions prompted by the coronavirus pandemic could last until the end of June.

"We are outliers with other parts of the racing world, but I think we should be prepared for an imminent change," Cruddace told Sky Sports Racing.

"My own personal view is that could be within the next 48 hours."

Racing in England has continued after the Cheltenham Festival, with a crowd of 8,400 at Uttoxeter on Saturday for the Midlands Grand National.

Cruddace called for additional aid to allow some fixtures that would otherwise be "financially unviable" to go ahead without income from paying spectators.

For example, he said staging the All-Weather Championships Finals day at Lingfield on Good Friday behind closed doors would mean his company missed out on between £500,000 to £600,000.

Arena's other tracks include Chepstow, Doncaster and Sedgefield.

"Where we are right now is we're following the current government advice, but I think it's safe to say that's very likely to change imminently. It's important we are - and we are - prepared for what's coming our way," said Cruddace.

"The only thing we can do as a responsible company and, dare I say it, an industry, is to follow the government's advice. We're planning, worst-case scenario, end of June. It is absolutely possible we won't race again in front of a crowd until the end of June. If it happens before then, great."

salmon spray 15 Mar 20 11:22   



Having watched Matt Hancock this morning it's obvious we are all doomed anyway given he is Health Secretary,so we might as well enjoy ourselves in the next few weeks.

stuttering nervously through interview , they have not a clue what to do right now


and where the fk is our leader

the world imposses measure after measure while the uk continues to spread it like confetti

problem is , these guys have a timeline which the virus must adhere to ……………..what could possibly go wrong

salmon and others
definitely dont go near a hospital..curtains guaranteed

got to agree with you for once impossible

Best Wishes Salmon.

yes indeed

take care salmon , and all you other grumpy old barstewards


tbh honest tho if you survive as long as you have on here no virus is goin to stop you

I don’t find myself agreeing with impossible very often but would like to offer the same sentiments as his last post.

Take care everyone

the betting industry will make sure the racing goes ahead ....   


after saying that  ,if it's behind closed doors i can't see any immediate dangers .

it's a virus  not a radioactive cloud   

whoever allowed that liverpool-madrid game to go ahead last week, in front of a stand full of fans from the spanish capital, needs locking up. 
gross negligence ...

The situation in the US is a complete mess. Of the tracks covered at the moment by Bf,Aqueduct is going on behind closed doors,whilst Turf Paradise seems to have unilaterally abandoned racing for the rest of its season. In Pennsylvania Parx is off but Penn National continues. Meanwhile the state of Maryland appears to have banned racing altogether,putting the Preakness in grave danger.
In GB of course racing went ahead in a just about recognisable form during both warss. You'll find Derby winners during the war years,albeit at Newmarket whilst you won't find any football  or cricket champions,any Wimbledon or Open winners. Of course you couldn't catch fascism from mingling,or possibly racehorse owners had buit up immunity.

behind closed doors,the Lingfield fella on tv today begging for his good fri meetings to go ahead are scrambling like addicts ,when theres 100,s dying by the day if you think 4/6 ambulances .dozen paramedic,s are going to be allowed to follow a few nags around a track so the betfair junkies can get their 2 knicker on, are barking mad
imagine paramedics returning to base from racecourse how did your day go we,ve 130 bodies out the back,peoiple lying on trolley,s everywhere,what about you,fav should have won the last

hulk23 15 Mar 20 18:53   



whoever allowed that liverpool-madrid game to go ahead last week, in front of a stand full of fans from the spanish capital, needs locking up. 
gross negligence ...

thousands of german fans in Glasgow the night after aswell

if only they could have taken the names and addresses of everyone who was at Cheltenham and the European matches, as they'd now be just about out of any incubation period, it would be interesting to see what % would test positive 

has there been a sudden spike in the number of cases on Merseyside and in Gloucestershire?

please send cash

or in man utd case spike in home counties,

probably best to give it another couple of days

current figures: around 110 cases, 407 in London 175 South East

we clearly need to lock down London

fight will be the selfish,ignorant laandaners coughing all over each other panic buying in supermarkets