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Superspreader/s.  Put it back to April and see where we are ?
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Report geoff m February 29, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
from Tokyo ??  Ohno!!
Report know all February 29, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
23 confirmed cases out of a population of 67 million

but because of no restrictions can only get far worse, too little to late
Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 3:19 PM GMT
does that mean theres less than 5000 people in centre of paris today or using the metro,crock of shoite
Report JJmbe February 29, 2020 3:20 PM GMT

Feb 29, 2020 -- 9:19AM, 1st time poster wrote:


does that mean theres less than 5000 people in centre of paris today or using the metro,crock of shoite


Frightening what they will say to sensationalise the news headlines.

Report xmoneyx February 29, 2020 3:27 PM GMT
Italians refused to go to Chinese restaurants and shops when the virus first emerged. Now they are being shunned worldwide. The stigma is spreading faster than the virus itself.
Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 3:40 PM GMT
as many French people  as you like allowed to leave the country go elsewhere in the world,get on euro star etc, madness
Report kevo February 29, 2020 3:51 PM GMT
It's about time that this thread should be quarantined.
Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 4:00 PM GMT
listen carefully ,put your smack dowm,he,s what you do,
you don't click on the thread its called self isolating,if your struggling to comprehend  care in the community will send someone round shortly
Report xaar February 29, 2020 4:06 PM GMT
cant see Cheltenham going ahead now,this week will tell all uk will go with most other countries
Report DOUBLED February 29, 2020 4:08 PM GMT
yet we can all still get on planes and fly anywhere we want ...
Report geoff m February 29, 2020 4:16 PM GMT
Whats to stop it going ahead behind closed doors ??
Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 4:18 PM GMT
eu SAY NON ,DORIS AND HIS BREXITEERS WILL SAY YES JUST TO PROVE UK IS SOVERIGN , Laugh
Report elise February 29, 2020 4:21 PM GMT
Geoff, think they made a statement to say that wouldn't happen, it's all or nothing
Report elise February 29, 2020 4:22 PM GMT
not their call though if gov announce measures next week
Report Nightfly February 29, 2020 4:25 PM GMT
no chance utra right wingers Johnson and co will prevent chelt going ahead - they don't care
Report elise February 29, 2020 4:26 PM GMT
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-chief-rules-out-21598851

this was what was written

I actually think a behind closed doors is a better option than loss of meeting if it comes to that
Report geoff m February 29, 2020 4:31 PM GMT
Cheers Elise. Agreed would rather it go ahead with no crowds than no festival @ all
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! February 29, 2020 4:36 PM GMT
Wont be a closed meeting
Total loss for the Jockey CLUB

Devil
Report elise February 29, 2020 4:39 PM GMT
how is getting money for the levy a total loss when no meeting gets them zero?
Report impossible123 February 29, 2020 5:02 PM GMT
2.66 for a cancellation could be a no-brainer by the middle of next week given the actions of other governments outside the UK regards mass gatherings. Is it not ironic there is no street demonstration from either Extinction Rebellion or Climate Change protesters. - I wonder why. Self-preservation is the utmost importance more than saving the planet.
Report xmoneyx February 29, 2020 5:06 PM GMT
meetings could go ahead, no crowds
Report geoff m February 29, 2020 5:07 PM GMT
If its a no brainer by the middle of next week IT WONT BE 2.66 tho .Will it??
Report xmoneyx February 29, 2020 5:09 PM GMT
racing should get same treatment as football

no games been cancelled
Report geoff m February 29, 2020 5:14 PM GMT
It is.
No football cancelled.
No racing cancelled.
Report Deptford February 29, 2020 5:16 PM GMT
Can one of you doom and gloom merchants answer why it will be called off when public transport will still run?
Report impossible123 February 29, 2020 5:16 PM GMT
'xmoneyx, I'd not considered that. That could be a big trap door.
Report ProSniper February 29, 2020 5:41 PM GMT
Cheltenham Racecourse reassures punters The Festival will go ahead despite Coronavirus threats

With just under two weeks until The Festival kicks off, Cheltenham Racecourse have said that the four-day event 'remains full speed ahead' despite the threats posed by Coronavirus .

The Festival kicks off on Tuesday, March 10, and a spokesperson for Cheltenham Racecourse has said: "It remains full speed ahead for The Festival in a fortnight's time. Racing continues to liaise closely with the government to stay on top of the situation and we are looking forward to four fantastic days of racing at Cheltenham."

Regional Director at the racecourse, Ian Renton, has said that he's 'really looking forward to The Festival.'

He said: "At the moment the racing industry is working closely with the Government and they have been extremely effective in keeping controls on the virus not entering this country, so we are delighted with what they have done and we look forward to The Festival happening in a fortnight's time.

"We have seen various things that have come on the horizon at each Festival. Last year we had the equine flu and high winds, previously we had the 'Beast from the East' Laugh so there's normally something around the corner to create a little bit of concern. At the moment there is nothing to push us off course."

Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 5:46 PM GMT
chelt will do what government tell them to do, fact
Report 1st time poster February 29, 2020 5:48 PM GMT
they wont be asking Cheltenham,s opinion, like they wont be asking man utd,s opinion
Report Cash Is King February 29, 2020 5:48 PM GMT
Latest from RP website:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/coronavirus-and-racing-will-the-cheltenham-festival-be-affected/425227

Coronavirus and racing: will the Cheltenham Festival be affected?
You will have heard of coronavirus by now – or more specifically the Covid-19 variety of the virus that started in the Wuhan region of China and is spreading rapidly around the world.

As of 9am on Saturday 82,240 cases had been reported globally with 59 countries affected — resulting in 2,924 deaths worldwide.

The international nature of this potentially fatal virus means authorities worldwide are reacting rapidly and sporting events have been some of the first to be affected.

So could it affect racing in Britain?

In short, yes it could. In Italy, the worst-affected country in Europe with 821 cases, Serie A football matches are being played behind closed doors this weekend, while Italy's Six Nations rugby clash with Ireland in Dublin was postponed ten days in advance and there are question marks over the clash with England in Rome the day after the Cheltenham Gold Cup.

Formula One's Chinese Grand Prix, on April 19, has already been cancelled and Paddy Power on Friday made this summer's Olympics in Tokyo, Japan (July 24 to August 9) a 4-6 shot to be cancelled.

We are not there yet, but if the number of cases in Britain spikes from the current 20 then racing could well be hit. If things stay as they are, then everything would carry on as normal.

Could it impact Cheltenham — and could the festival be cancelled?

Well, the Betfair market – on which £545,198 has been matched so far – suggests the first day of the festival is 1.57 (4-7) to go ahead and 2.72 (13-8) to be off.

Now it does not specify this has to be due to coronavirus, so anything from snow or frost to high winds, waterlogging or acts of God like another equine flu outbreak are runners in the market, but it does give you a strong indication of how serious the threat is given 'no' traded as high as 4.4 shortly after the market opened on Tuesday evening.

Cheltenham officials have given every indication they expect the festival to go ahead as planned and the BHA on Friday said it saw no reason to "develop a policy regarding abandonment of any specific fixtures due to coronavirus at this time", but the decision will ultimately lie with the government.

Furthermore, while shutting down a sporting event is less effective as a prevention method than closing major airports and transport systems such as the London Underground, it is also vastly less disruptive to the general public and so often deemed the starting point.

The festival, with more than 260,000 visitors from all over the globe in just four days, would be a vastly greater concern in that sense than a midweek evening fixture at Kempton, and if the number of cases in Britain starts to rise and politicians become involved, then all bets are off.

Could the festival be held behind closed doors, or elsewhere?

In Japan (226 cases) and Hong Kong (93) spectators have been banned from racecourses as countries with a rising number of contaminated individuals look to minimise the potential for spreading the virus while keeping the show on the road, while the Swiss government have banned gatherings of more than a 1,000 people in a country with just 15 cases to date.

Running the festival behind closed doors instead of cancelling the meeting would be preferable for racing fans, the sport's participants and bookmakers alike, and for the sport too in terms of Levy-generation, but the balance sheets of Jockey Club Racecourses would take a hammering unless their insurance covers the commercial loss of the meeting technically going ahead, albeit behind closed doors. The course will not comment on the details of their insurance arrangements.

The problem with relocating is if a gathering of 260,000 in Cheltenham is problematic, the same is likely to apply were it moved to Ascot, Ayr, Doncaster, Haydock, Newbury or Sandown.

What happens if it's postponed?

Foot and mouth caused the 2001 Cheltenham Festival to be cancelled. The initial contingency plan was for a delayed festival to take place in April, with the then three-day event pencilled in for April 17-19. When that too had to be abandoned the governing body at the time, the British Horseracing Board (BHB), looked into trying to salvage the championship races at other venues – with attempts made to add the four championship races and Arkle to Sandown's season-ending meeting, but those plans failed.

The congested nature of the spring calendar, with major festivals at Aintree (April 2-4), Fairyhouse (April 11-13), Ayr (April 17-18), Sandown (April 25) and Punchestown (April 28-May 2), means even if the coronavirus epidemic is abated, finding a slot for the festival would not be straightforward.

But with Cheltenham already scheduled to race on April 15 and 16 (a Wednesday and a Thursday) adding a Tuesday to that fixture, as they did in 2001, would look the most obvious solution.

How much would it cost the industry?

In 2001 when the festival was a three-day event, the loss of Cheltenham was estimated to have cost the betting industry alone £100 million, while local tourism reportedly suffered an estimated £10 million hit. The course itself will not comment on the financial impact suffered.

These days the festival is an altogether bigger beast and those numbers can be inflated. Bookmakers do roughly £450-£500 million in turnover which, with an even run of results, returns around £50 million in profit and with the levy at ten per cent that is roughly a £5 million hit for the sport as a whole if those four days are lost.

And it is not just those four days. The reason bookmaker offers are so enticing around Cheltenham is because it is a major account recruiting event. While the Grand National may open more accounts, they are generally one-off bettors, the industry has learned Cheltenham activates accounts that continue to bet throughout the year and thus further chipping in to the sport's levy return.
Report Cash Is King February 29, 2020 5:54 PM GMT
Bottom line is racing will do what the Government tells them to do. At the moment there's no sign that the Government will ban events where people gather in large numbers but that might change after Monday's Cobra meeting. If the number of new infections in UK remains low then hopefully Cheltenham will be allowed to go ahead.
Report Storm Alert March 1, 2020 9:18 AM GMT
Rapidly changing infection rate might accelerate sporting events getting called off and Cheltenham is a very large multi national event. Government will be driven to avoid criticism, so if they think there is a scenario of Cheltenham causing a big spike in proliferating the virus of course they will stop it.

Cheltenham were "confident" of going ahead in 2001 then a few days before the start succumbed to Foot & Mouth (sheep grazing on course the killer).

Strange thing is I doubt it can be stopped now, just delayed. It's just a case of how many get it, how the 20% who get it really bad can be treated by our overstretched National Health Service and how many of the 20% will die. In the UK 20m/4m/1m might be a conservative estimate.
Report paulo47 March 1, 2020 9:23 AM GMT
Yep , its not exactly encouraging when the guy who ' wasnt feeling well ' and popped into the health centre (what planet was he from ) had also been in the pub !
Report foxy March 1, 2020 11:15 AM GMT
I was at Doncaster yesterday it’s unbelievable how many didn’t even wash there hands after been to the toilet .
Report elise March 1, 2020 11:24 AM GMT
what were you doing in the toilets all day foxy?
Report foxy March 1, 2020 11:32 AM GMT
LaughLaughDevil
Report posy March 1, 2020 11:47 AM GMT
prices now
1/2  on
2/1  off


'off' has certainly drifted over past 24 hours
Report foxy March 1, 2020 11:56 AM GMT
Good morning posy hope your well

The bottom line in all this is nobody has a clue really if logic prevails we will race .
Report posy March 1, 2020 12:07 PM GMT
I'm fine thank you as I trust you are too foxy.

I find it difficult to believe that Cheltenham will proceed behind closed doors;it'll either be on or off. Boris has always given the impression that he's no great supporter of the nanny state so I'm hpopeful it'll be on as usual.If a million of us are going to drop dead from this disease then so be it but let's enjoy the time we've got.
Report geoff m March 1, 2020 12:21 PM GMT
French Racing Behind CLosed Doors

UPDATED 11:51AM, MAR 1 2020
 
Tuesday's card at Chantilly will be run behind closed doors as French public health officials react to the threat posed by coronavirus.
Report kevo March 1, 2020 12:21 PM GMT
Over 600 MPs will be crammed into the House of Commons on 11th March for the budget, in the House of Lords a further 300 peers could turn up travelling from all over the country to collect their attendance fees and expenses.
Report foxy March 1, 2020 12:21 PM GMT
Yes let’s enjoy the time we have got.

I would have no doubt whatsoever if it was boris himself we could all start packing now for Cheltenham.
Report posy March 1, 2020 12:25 PM GMT
The thought of Cheltenham going ahead without the roar of the crowd is almost inconceivable.
Report hello :-) March 1, 2020 12:28 PM GMT
the crowd IS  chelt imo
Report ribero1 March 1, 2020 12:29 PM GMT
Doubt anyone apart from all the sharp minds on here who probably never go racing would want it to go ahead behind closed doors,anyhow I understand Cheltenham have dismissed that idea,best news yet.
Report geoff m March 1, 2020 12:29 PM GMT
Renton has stated it will not go ahead without the crowd!!
Report ribero1 March 1, 2020 12:30 PM GMT
Cheers Geoff,thats what I thought.
Report geoff m March 1, 2020 12:32 PM GMT
thanx to Elise who pointed that out to me Ribero.
Report tantpis March 1, 2020 12:37 PM GMT
As long as the Politicians don't have a Mass Debate,Cheltenham will be on.Happy
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 12:40 PM GMT
if its a case of it not going ahead and prize money staying out of trainers pockets or going ahead without crowd ,believe me forget what anyone says it will be going ahead, hendo already on tv today saying whatever happens it must take place somehow ,somewhere, if the betfair loons really think hendo and co are giving up the chance to race for 5 million , and bookmakers,levy losing all their business because someone,s worried about not having a chelt roar their barking,from purely training a horse to win point of view no crowd is a help not a hinderance
Report geoff m March 1, 2020 12:42 PM GMT
there are plenty of mass debaters(think ive spelt that right) disguised as Politicians.
Report elise March 1, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
although renton said it, i'm not convinced they won't consider behind closed doors if it's otherwise cancelled at govn request
Report GAZO March 1, 2020 12:55 PM GMT
if the course doesnt lose money they would run behind closed doors,sadly money talks
Report foxy March 1, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
Ribero

It’s like the scene in the king and I when the baby was going to get cut in half ,those who really love attending this fixture would sooner lose it than have it run behind closed doors ,those who never go don’t care they just want a bet or as there are so many shrewd layers now they won’t to lay a few.
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 12:59 PM GMT
its a complete no brainer millions watching /betting at home, as compared to 200,000 turning up
Report firstimevisor March 1, 2020 1:26 PM GMT
There's as much chance of running Cheltenham behind closed doors as there is of having Glastonbury behind closed doors
Report foxy March 1, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
Well put
Report Deptford March 1, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
As I have said before, there is not one iota of a chance it will be off unless they shut down public transport, shopping malls and every other public place where people mingle.
Report foxy March 1, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
That’s for firstimevisor
Report foxy March 1, 2020 1:31 PM GMT
Hope your right deptford
Report foxy March 1, 2020 1:42 PM GMT
12 more cases today
Report The Pies March 1, 2020 1:50 PM GMT
Just announced that another 12 tested positive in England
Report sparrow March 1, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
The Health Secretary has said the government could place UK cities on lockdown if the country is hit by a widespread coronavirus outbreak.

Matt Hancock said the UK had not ruled out following China’s lead and isolating cities in the case of a pandemic.

Asked if there was any circumstance in which the UK would "cut off a city", as Chinese authorities did with Wuhan, he told the BBC's Andrew Marr show: “There is clearly a huge economic and social downside to that.

"But we don’t take anything off the table at this stage, because you have got to make sure you have all the tools available if that is what is necessary.”

He confirmed that “population distancing measures” - such as banning public gatherings, cancelling football matches and encouraging people to avoid public transport - could also be considered if the situation escalates.
Report hello :-) March 1, 2020 1:54 PM GMT
that's devastating news , got to assume these 12 have been wandering around in contact with others

responses I guess would hinge on further new cases and in scheme of things 12 is quite a spike
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 1:54 PM GMT
funny statement 12 more patients,does this mean they were already in a hospital,not 12 more people
Report sparrow March 1, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
12 people tested positive.
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
sky quoting department of health,12 patients
Report hello :-) March 1, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
could be folk who were in contact with anyone who already had virus and were getting tested

doenst change fact they could have infected others before testing tbh

cant see any other response than major containment and restriction of travel now whatever that will mean who knows , but 12 is a very high spike in relation to those already positive , 30 odd %
Report The Pies March 1, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
Who knows Poster, maybe 12 people with mild symptoms who will recover but it's the contagion that'll be the worry
Report sparrow March 1, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
Presumably people become ill and are then tested for the virus. Once confirmed become new cases.
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 2:05 PM GMT
yeh but the news would be if they wernt connected to someone already tested p[ositive,they werewetting tnhemselves yesterday over 1 untraceable case,as they arnt peeing themselves over 12 I,m assuming their all traced back to a positive case somewhere
Report Storm Alert March 1, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
It's getting closer two in Gloucestershire so far.
Report Movewiththetimes March 1, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
Out to 1.72 again Sad
Report Deptford March 1, 2020 2:19 PM GMT
I think I will honestly shed a tear if off, not done that since my old mum went upstairs years ago!!
Report casemoney March 1, 2020 2:26 PM GMT
Report casemoney March 1, 2020 2:27 PM GMT
In depts words it is Mainly people who are on their way upstairs anyway

Absolute load of bollix Scaremongering by the Media
Report DOUBLED March 1, 2020 2:35 PM GMT
12 more people with a virus who will more than likely all be fine in a week
Report Fashion Fever March 1, 2020 2:37 PM GMT
At what point does the flip flop come
Report The Pies March 1, 2020 2:41 PM GMT
Yes, the most vulnerable will be more susceptible but the same applies to flu when we vaccinate them to keep the death rate down
Report casemoney March 1, 2020 2:41 PM GMT
If its not allowed to go ahead then every Premier game must follow suit next week , or play behind closed doors
Report posy March 1, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
1.87/2.14
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 3:12 PM GMT
ffs theres some foooking loons on here chelt wont be mentioned by name,it will be like france,public gatherings above a certain number  banned,out of governments hands what falls in to that catogry
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 1, 2020 3:19 PM GMT
Centuar could be CLOSED
DOWN

Laugh
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 3:26 PM GMT
cant see the big fella been happy about that Laugh
Report sparrow March 1, 2020 3:33 PM GMT
1st time poster 01 Mar 20 15:12 
ffs theres some foooking loons on here chelt wont be mentioned by name,it will be like france,





Says the resident loon!
Report Movewiththetimes March 1, 2020 5:17 PM GMT
Latest figures suggest Italy isn't contained Sad
Report Diff-rent March 1, 2020 8:00 PM GMT
Those who have spent thousands on travel and accommodation must be worried now.

Fingers crossed it goes a head.
Report 1st time poster March 1, 2020 8:11 PM GMT
after floods Cheltenham town ,buisnesses themselves must be panicing, years takings will be well down
Report xmoneyx March 1, 2020 8:52 PM GMT
1st case scotland, near Perth racecourse
Report The Knight March 1, 2020 9:37 PM GMT
It isn't only the media fuelling this up, it is you lot as well. And on many other social media outlets.

Shut the f*ck up about it and stop putting ideas into the heads of those just twitching to invoke procedure after procedure to close everything down.

Best way the public can cope with this nonsense is to ignore it. There is still more chance of being kicked to death by a donkey than catching this virus, and being kicked to death by a giraffe than dying from it.

Chinese provinces are very different from the UK. Health care is poor, in some cases terrible, and of those who have died in China the statistics show many of them would have died of old age, or something else, in the same period anyway.

The UK just loves a bit of drama queening. Christ knows what we would do if there as ever another blitz.
Report hello :-) March 1, 2020 9:54 PM GMT
not really knight

I can easily avoid a donkey , or a giraffe
Report TimmyRiggins March 1, 2020 10:00 PM GMT
Most of us are donkeys, and spend half the day talking to each other mnost of the week Laugh

Almost all are having a giraffe with some of the stuff posted.
Report hello :-) March 1, 2020 10:04 PM GMT
nothing to fear , most will die of death anyway
Report Cash Is King March 4, 2020 1:47 PM GMT
Mmmm not out of the woods yet.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/coronavirus-and-racing-health-chief-warns-plan-is-nearing-delay-stage/426080

Coronavirus and racing: health chief warns plan is nearing 'delay stage'

The UK's action plan against the coronavirus outbreak is on the cusp of moving to the 'delay stage', during which restrictions could be imposed on public gatherings, according to the government's chief medical officer Chris Whitty.

Whitty was speaking on Wednesday morning when he said he feared that the virus could be spreading undetected in Britain, but stated that an epidemic of the illness in Britain was "likely, not definite".

Speaking on BBC Radio 4, Whitty suggested the second phase of the government's action plan was imminent.

"When I was here previously, we were firmly in contain stage," he said. "Now I think we are on the borderline between containing and delaying. But many of the things you do to contain it can also delay it."

On Tuesday, the government unveiled its coronavirus action plan, which contains four phases: contain, delay, research and mitigate.

Currently, the government is in the contain phase, during which the focus is on detecting early cases and preventing an outbreak of the disease.

The delay phase begins when the virus begins spreading and seeks to postpone its peak until nearer the summer. This phase could include restrictions on public gatherings like sporting events for up to 12 weeks.

However, prime minister Boris Johnson said on Tuesday there were no immediate plans to introduce such measures, heightening confidence that the Cheltenham Festival, which begins on Tuesday, will go ahead as scheduled.

On Wednesday the number of people in Britain diagnosed with coronavirus rose to 53, while new deaths in Iran and Italy took the fatalities there to 92 and 79.

The World Bank has announced a $12 billion aid package and Chile and Argentina have also reported their first cases of the disease, which could put sport at risk and on hold.

The Coppa Italia clash between Juventus and AC Milan in Turin on Wednesday night has been postponed, although racing was 1.2 to go ahead at Cheltenham on Tuesday on Betfair's exchange market in which nearly £2 million has been traded. At 12.30pm on Wednesday, it was 5.8 racing would not take place.
Report 1st time poster March 4, 2020 2:11 PM GMT
85 and counting,biggest daily rise to date ,squeaky bum time
Report Hushwing. March 4, 2020 2:43 PM GMT
No chance of the public attending , odds still indicate they've discussed going ahead behind closed doors
Report paulo47 March 4, 2020 2:45 PM GMT
Money will buy most things , including a closed doors Cheltenham .
Report GAZO March 4, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
the only problem with a closed door cheltenham is if people cant get hotel money back or travel money (flights and train fares )they will still travel to cheltenham in large numbers and pack the pubs and bars
Report Nightfly March 4, 2020 3:22 PM GMT
Yes Gazo, but Horse Racing via attendance at the meeting wont be seen as the evil superspreader
Personally I don't think the massed crowds should be there, How many more infections will follow, potentially any number you like
Always considered a behind closed doors no chance, but beginning to change my mind. Hard to re arrange in any meaningful form..But with this,None whatsoever
Id take 8/1 on BCDoors
Report GAZO March 4, 2020 3:31 PM GMT
if the course got compensated so they didnt lose money i dont think they would care too much and the owners and trainers also wouldnt mind because if its off i suspect that would be it for this season,i dont think they would re-arrange the meeting
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