Has a jockey ever messed up three group one in a row?

I’m sure if you count them up he’s cocked up more than 3 in a row lol.

Says the man who is a psychiatrist’s dream with numerous usernames and personas on here lol

Lol

Bastardo  . Bastardo. Today's will improve.

I think you will find the hos is overrated when you get so many horses as close as that at the finish you usually find theres nothing special about the race

If I was on a gravy train I'd be loath to disembark prematurely tbphai. Pretty much everyone on here would be of like mind.
It's easy to be a courageous moralist on the sidelines.

Ryan should have looked at the weather forecast before choosing Sir Dragonet.

^^ one of the most ridiculous comments on this forum ever ^^ ‘Moore ride brilliantly’....what planet are you on? Even his biggest defenders on here wouldn’t come out with a comment so ridiculous that he rode ‘brilliantly’!!!!

Mrs Moore ^

If one had been backing Moore on AOB inmates at Epsom this week one would be a lot poorer having being robbed on shorter prices for his mounts and mistaking the finishing posts. Anyone still unconvinced Royal Ascot beckons soon, and the proof is in the eating, as the saying goes; Dettori will whip his behind (again).

Every single time he is on the market leader so what are you saying Rothman?

Should definitely have won on Kew Gardens but not sure he did that much wrong in the Oaks or Derby.

Should definitely have won on Kew Gardens?....

His positioning in races is generally not good.

He gets off with it a lot due to being on the best one. When he is not he is often left looking like a mug.

Frankie has been immense throughout his stellar career in the big ones, very rarely gets it wrong.

In 2016 The Gurhka (Royal Ascot); Order of St George and Seventh Heaven (Ascot Champions Day) - all Gp 1 races.

^ fiercest critic ffs

It's pretty simple.

1. Coronation Cup. Moore rides beautifully. He's on a very strong stayer that takes a while to wind up. You would be totally wrong to ride on the inside and wait for gaps on this type of horse so he rides two wide around tattenham corner so that he can swing slightly wide into the straight as horses so often do at Epsom to get a clear run particularly if you are on a horse that comes with a long run. He comes with the run and times it perfectly on a strong stayer and pulls clear of most of the field but to everyones surprise Defoe produces a lifetime best after two slightly below par performances so far this season, quickens up very well and Kew Gardens is quite clearly beaten fair and square on the day.

2. The Oaks. Moore rides a similar race. There is a slight difference in that Pink Dogwood was having her first run over the trip. However, everything about her breeding (full sister to Latrobe) suggests she will stay strongly. It's very easy to say with hindsight that on the day the horse didn't stay as well as others (the winner, the 3rd,  plus others saw  the race out much stronger than Pink Dogwood) and he might have held on to her longer but he can only do what's right at the time. In any case it's hard to believe that Pnk Dogwood would have got past Annapurna if he had let that one get first run as Annapurna was clearly well on top at the line. You can ask Moore to go down the inside all around Tattenham Corner in midfield but then of course you are very likely to run into trouble. You take your choice but I'm quite certain that over the years particularly riding a strong fancy the route Moore took is the logical one.

3. The Derby. Like Kew Gardens its actually ludicrous to criticise this one. Moore was in a lovely position throughout the race and in a good position considering the pace. Moore and Doyle allowed the first 4 to go clear when they were going too fast. Perhaps some criticism of those jockeys is appropriate (though of course a couple of the Ballydoyle horses were in as pacemakers so it's just Dettori and Murphy that got it wrong)
As the field comes into the straight Donnacha is already pushing and shoving on Broome and looms up on Moore's outside. Mean while Madhmoon is also trying to close and comes up on his inside. You can see Moore doesn't really want to go for everything at this stage but he also needs to be doing enough to stop Broome and Madhmoon going past him because then he really would be in trouble. Initially he's not going for everything but madhmoon has quickened up well so he has to start going for it to stay with him. They all go for home and Anthony Van Dyck finishes stronger and wins perhaps helped by being less crowded than the other 4. This was actually somewhat ironic as for a large part of the straight Heffernan is trying to get Anthony Van Dyck to challenge wide but he keeps hanging in, but then Telecaster and the others on the inside drop away and he gets a clear run on the inside of the track.

We live in a sad world where people either through losing money or with an agenda are desperate to criticise those at the top of the game without being able to apply any logic or reasoning. Or in many cases people are just not intuitive enough to understand. Kew Gardens traded 1.01 and Pink Dogwood 1.08. Not sure how short Sir Dragonet went but clearly all 3 were given a great chance to win. They all hit the front, all looked strong stayers in advance and failed to deliver.

Obviously it's the Betfair forum and we are always unlikely to get reasoned argument and debate, just whinging punters trying to put the blame on someone else for their decisions. Carry on doing it guys and carry on losing or alternatively assess races and rides properly without an agenda and you might start winning.

I"m not disagreeing he give all three a chance of winning the point i made was he mistimed his challenge. By quickening at the three marker he was asking too much of the horses to quicken and maintain that acceleration to the line of a strong pace,  it takes an exceptional horse to be able to do that and all three were not of that calibre. If had had delayed his move by another furlong i feel all three win, thats the difference between a very good jockey and a great one , put Lester on those three hes calm and cool enough to wait and deliver one perfectly timed move like the deadly assassin he was.

Rothman, cheers. Glad to see some sense on here.

Mukdahan, I agree in hindsight you can make that argument with Pink Dogwood though not certain it would have made the difference as she just didn't get home as well as expected. Or if O'Brien gave him instructions saying this filly doesn't take after her brother and has much more speed but might not get home so hold her up until very late then you might well criticise him but i very much doubt those were the thoughts/instructions. With regards to the other two for the reasons stated I think it's pretty ludicrous to criticise him. Certainly in the Derby a few jockeys went for home before him and he certainly couldn't risk allowing strong stayers such as Broome to go past him whilst waiting, particularly on a horse such as Sir Dragonet. Looking at how it ended you would certainly be clutching at straws to say he could have come behind Broome and win so he had to partly commit when he did. I've not seen any criticism of Murphy and Dettori who went too quick, of Donnacha and Hayes who committed before Moore or of Lordan who dropped his whip. Just of Moore. It's a bit unseemly.

1st time poster, I do tend to agree with you that the inside of the track may have been a good place to be. However, that's very much a surprise given that if anything usually the middle of the track is slightly faster and certainly not worse. Therefore it was pretty unlikely to think so in advance on the friday. On the saturday it's fresh ground on the inside which doesn't necessarily mean faster ground. Quite often on drying ground it's the ground that's already been opened up which dries faster. In any case all the first 5 home in the Derby tried to come down the middle in the straight so impossible to criticise Moore in such a scenario. As already stated Heffernan just didn't make it there because his horse kept hanging back in.