Richard Woollacott

Who was she Banging ??

Fish

Josh Newman, point to point/amateur jock. Those who said as much on here at the time were shot down by the majority but they were proved correct.

So what point are you making Doorman 99?

Sound like one of the many I have met,gormless,ignorant,clueless and extremely ugly

dove hing meeself

unverted

dove hung himeeself

Glen they were not Married that Long had a Young Kid , not many would find the Womans actions positive ...

Seems all a bit strange Big weddings a Kid and she is off Banging another Bloke within a couple of Years ??

No wonder he was depressed , a very sad and strange case , How long had they known each other before they got wed ??

She is still associated with the Horses and seems now be some Sort of Advocate for Mental Health  ..

IMO if your partner is suffering from Depression , having an affair with another person 

will certainly not help the Matter ..

Now if that were me I think I might  fade into the back ground and perhaps feel a bit of Guilt and sorrow for what if

I did not cause I was Certainly party to ..

As stated a strange and tragic case ...

they know what they are saying or doing Chavs sadly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy4mXZN1Zzk

now i must zzzzzzzzzzz

Wouldn't blame any of the owners for taking their horses from her and putting them with another trainer. Don't know how she can face people.

When it first come out he had died someone on here actually mentioned the person without actually naming him who was having an affair with her.He was slated on this forum but he was dead right.She played the dutiful wife but was a dirty little cheat.

All those crocodile tears in the winners enclosure , when in reality she was putting it about .

See above.

no suicide in Henry's case - slightly different imo

so its okay as long as your wife or husband doesnt top themselves ?

This coming out as her star horse has lost his form may not help her future prospects as a trainer? although presumably the owners will have known what had been going on?

i was always hopeing her horses to win now hope they keep on losing

Hopefully the 'emotional back story' angle that always surfaces in the media will now finally be put to bed, so to speak.

You made the error of forgetting that Henry Cecil was not female Salmon .

Racehorse trainer and point-to-point champion Richard Woollacott took his own life after discovering his wife was having an affair with a jockey, an inquest heard.

Mr Woollacott, 40, was found hanged in a barn at his north Devon home in January 2018.

He had discovered a series of sexual messages to his wife Kayley on Facebook three weeks beforehand.

Mr Woollacott had also been struggling with depression and pressures of work.

Devon assistant coroner Alison Longhorn recorded a verdict of suicide at the inquest at County Hall, Exeter.

'Sexual texts'
Mr Woollacott was found on 22 January at Rose Ash near South Molton by his mother Carol and sister Marie.

After cutting him down, his sister tried to resuscitate him but he was declared dead.

His sister said he had discovered a number of "sexual texts" between his wife and the unnamed jockey.

"Richard sacked the jockey and said the relationship [with his wife] was over, but he later found messages on an iPad saying the relationship was continuing," she told the inquest.

"He was hurt and humiliated."



Kayley Woollacott with Lalor, who was trained by her husband before his death
She said he had been prescribed anti-depressants in 2017 after the death of a friend who had been riding one of his horses.

His wife told the inquest that Mr Woollacott, who she married in 2013, had been "fun" and "we got on very well".

But the couple "started to struggle" with pressure of work and finances.

"Cash was tight and the work pressure was enormous," she said, describing their relationship as "volatile".


Richard Woollacott saddled 60 winners including two at Grade 2 level
She said the personal messages which her husband found on Facebook were "inappropriate" with "sexual innuendos".

The couple started marriage counselling and the evening before he was found dead they had said they loved each other.

A letter later discovered in his house said she and their daughter were "the best thing that ever happened to him".

Mr Woollacott produced 60 winners - including two at Grade 2 level - since he began training in 2008.

As a successful point-to-point rider, he also won the Devon & Cornwall Championship nine times and the national title in 2010.

wonder which jockey it was anybody know?

I don't recall Cecil putting himself on TV wanting people to feel sorry for him either due his marriage problems, drink driving or cancer battle.

It has nothing to do with us who's sleeping with who but when you start playing the dutiful wife and blaming depression for your husbands death soaking up sympathy on the TV it leaves a sour taste.

According to Newman's facebook he is in a relationship with her .

i felt sorry for Kayley Woollacott but when you get the truth it leaves a bitter taste, how has she still got a training career is beyond me she a disgrace.

interesting comparing the two reports posted on this thread, with the one in the opening post it's as if you're having to read between the lines with regard to what relationship might have gone on outside of their marriage, whereas with the report posted by boga at 12.57, the first line leaves you in no doubt.

2 sides to every story he can't give his story of what was happening, feel sorry for the little un..........

Because the first is from the Racing Post who like to portray everyone in racing as whiter than white and Boga's is probably fron The Mail or somewhere. Irrelevant how the tale is told, at least it is out there now for the few that didn't know and are taken in by her nonsense every time she's on tv. If she didn't keep blabbing so much it would have all faded away but now she's just made herself look stupid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-47965496

that where i read it.

I do not blame her. Women cheating on there Husbands happens every Day Of The Week....Of course it's a tragic case and I do feel for the kids.

AD.....think it was the crocodile tears the problem

feel sorry for her though.....and the kid

I don't think they were crocodile tears card she probably still had a lot of affection for the guy.

don't know how you can say that??

People have been known to have affairs and still have feelings for their partners.

Absolutely fife.

Trouble is we know the dreadful outcome but we don't know much about the day to day relationship that led up to the finale. Her reputation is in tatters and will take years to recover. Feel sad for the children.

doorman makes a good point about the Racing Post putting a positive slant on virtually everyone in the sport. The same with those on the train. I find it hard to believe that all the people producing the positive features throughout the season didn't know the truth - at least to some extent - behind the original story.

As regards the training career unless I have missed something she got the one good win out of Lalor and that's about it.

She's obviously not spotless but this is a misogynistic thread. So unusual for this place   

cant believe chavs aint already cleared this up.... but in his absence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVKyjdY_A1U

cant believe chavs aint already cleared this up.... but in his absence


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVKyjdY_A1U

OK so she wasn't whiter than white in the whole episode but to imply that she wasn't upset by the situation, was only crying crocodile tears and looking for sympathy is just a bit silly really.

Despite being complicit in the final outcome via her actions, emotions can't just be turned off like a tap or memories wiped from the mind as if they never even happened, so they still had a past together and he was still the father of her child and regardless of everything, I hardly find it surprising that it was emotionally upsetting for her all the same.

If it wasn't for her actions Richard would more then likely still be with us. She's got that to live with for the rest of her life. Wonder what Richard's family think of her.

I'm not convinced she could have reasonably expected him to commit suicide because she was having an affair. If that was a normal consequence the population would be drastically reduced.

Nobody knows what goes on in a marriage so I suggest people should mind their own business.

Differentdrums's suspicions are almost certainly correct I imagine.

I was told by a mate who was doing a shift for one of the Racing Channels who had been told by an ex-jock who works for the same channel. Several months later said ex-jock does a sympathetic feature about her for the Channel.

Hard to know what her future in the sport is, but her campaigning of Lalor didn't do her many favours I suspect.

Agree with wesdag on this one.

yes i agree with wesdag as well, trial by social media seems to be on the increase.

agree..leave the woman be.

Sad scenes.

Love is such a fickle thing these days.

Until there’s another statement we should just let her get in with her life.

Thing is I really felt sorry for her but it’s quite clear she’s going to be fine.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/widow-well-known-horse-trainer-1227352

Well she covers the Lot there , Looks like he also Lost a close friend in the previous year or so , Strangely no mention
of her Affair  ... 

As stated proabably best Left im sure people will come to their own Conclusions ..

RIP

Its the affair that did it for him not the death of a friend so that article is disingenuous at the very least with her.

Its a sad situation but when somebody,suffering from depression, decides to end his life then that's never somebody else's fault. Some of you need to get a grip.

Well said, Firstimevisor.

Apparently he discovered she was still shagging the jockey even though he sacked him and found messages from her to the jockey describing him as ‘useless’.

Sort of thing would break most men imo

wonder why shes never mentioned it in interviews??

Certainly would not Help ...

Think she wants be a Mental Health Advocate Geoff , Don't think mentioning it would be a plus ...

I'm sure she will find a  little Job dealing with Depressed Jockeys .

To make such a sweeping statement I presume firstimevisor is in the medical profession?

Are you really suggesting that depression that ultimately results in a suicide is not influenced by anyone but the individual concerned. As a complete layman I find that hard to believe.

Surprised people on here are saying she is whiter than white.She should take an  huge part of his suicide.She also played the loving wife of a man who suffered mental illness .

Isn't she a Betway Ambassador? Just shows how bookies nowadays jump on anything for a bit of good PR.

portmanpark    21 Apr 19 19:47 
Surprised people on here are saying she is whiter than white






Which people said that?

There are some very misogynistic posters sparrow. That's for sure.

who was the jockey mentioned

As wesdag has said salmon

"Nobody knows what goes on in a marriage so I suggest people should mind their own business"

name that jockey.  he should be named.

sparrow....you seem to have taken up her case??

What is known is

He found out about the affair, sacked the jockey and she said the affair was over. He later found out it wasnt. Hopefully the child/ren will find out the truth and then make their own mind up about her. People who have affairs are usually serial cheaters and never change.

mymumsfine..think he was a PtP jockey so I doubt you or I would know him.

sparrow....I think she comes out of this with zero credibility .Your standards and morality maybe lower I don't know.

Fifth post in this thread names him.

Wonder what he’s thinking?

If he’d just walked away RW might probably still be alive and the kid would still have a father.

That must be some good p....

portmanpark, you are putting words into my mouth as I simply agreed with wesdag that we do not know what goes on in someone elses marriage and therefore should mind our own business.

ELG what the jockey is doing is putting that he and her are in a relationship, he posted this on Facebook.

I don't for a moment condone her behaviour,but some obviously think she should be whipped in the Market Square at South Molton ( and I imagine they would pay good money for the video ) and then retire to a nunnery.
If some of you don't think there are terrible double standards here you are seriously delusional,though I suppose a username like portmanpark says it all.

Sparrow, this story is in the public domain, yes, reported in newspapers, have you phoned the papers up yet to tell them to 'mind their own business'?

Btw sparrow, if you really wanted to 'mind your own business' wouldn't you just not comment, close the thread and vow not to read any more of it, rather than trying to control what other adults say?

I wouldn't want to comment as it's none of my business, but I'm not going to try and keep other adults silent, whether they have a point or not.

My only contribution to this thread was only to comment on how the case had been reported following the inquest, and I suspect the author of the report in the opening post, is a bit like sparrow in that I think he wanted to control what the reader knows.

Now take this line here from the opening report, which we're told is from the RP:

She also revealed a member of their staff was sending her text messages with "sexual innuendos and jokes".

When I read that, my first thought was: you mean she was being harassed by a member of staff?

Compare that to what was reported by the BBC:

His sister said he had discovered a number of "sexual texts" between his wife and the unnamed jockey.
"Richard sacked the jockey and said the relationship [with his wife] was over, but he later found messages on an iPad saying the relationship was continuing," she told the inquest.
"He was hurt and humiliated."

Maybe she just married the wrong bloke in the first place, not all marriages are fairytales, very few infact.

I'm not convinced she could have reasonably expected him to commit suicide because she was having an affair. If that was a normal consequence the population would be drastically reduced......


Some folk have really strong emotions . I can totally understand his actions . Not long married and young children involved ??

She staying out on her Christmas night out and not coming home until next day ! He was probably thinking what they were getting up to . No decent woman does that . RICHARD , RIP . You never got lucky with your wife mate , some do but most just make do and let on they have the perfect life . You had exceptionally strong feelings and the pain was just too much .

First of all George and once again I was simply agreeing with another poster regarding this matter but you seem to want to single me out for all the criticism.
Your long winded assertion that I wish to "control what other adults say" is absolute nonsense.

Three times on this thread you have said people should 'mind their own business'

What gives you the right to suggest to people what they can or can't say?
Some of the stuff that has come out at the inquest, like what was said by RW's sister regarding the texts and the effect she said it had on her brother, has upset / annoyed people, and whether you like or it not, people have commented on it.

Maybe you're the one who should mind his own business, with your holier-than-thou attitude.

no winners in this saga im afraid , neither her nor her lover nor the kids let alone richard , He must have felt the whole thing was beyond his control , hence his actions ,,, yet it does beg the question of how part of this albeit twisted logic was the i will show her , them , the action and how it was placed for max effect , seems at first to be a very cruel final act to his wife and kids ,  Yet a long while ago i had a friend a loveing mother with 4 boys , who came home from her school job at lunch time to find her happy , lovely boy of 13 hanging from the hallway bannister , Nothing before , no indications no clues , To this day she lives in the house ,,, i once asked her why she didnt move as each day she comes through the door she must look up to that place and see her son , she couldnt explain it , My own opinion is hanging is a particularly cruel way to do this , especially as i think part of it done in a family setting , where it will never go away seems doubly hurtful ,
yet no winners , she cab cry yet on her own at night she will know she shares some blame as indeed does her lover , both will pay in spades as the community will judge , would you le the guy in yr stable near yr wife of girlfriend , would you trust her judgement as a trainer , after her judgement of when and who to take as a lover , would you as an wife trust yr husband to be around the stable if he has horses there ,
yet richard must share some responsibility , his final act albeit his mind might have been effected was particularly cruel  to her and the kids , i dont know if it was premeditated , i hope not ,

i hope both he and the family find a degree of peace but i sort of doubt you ever can

I have said it 3 times because people like you are attributing me with words I have not used. If you want to engage in tittle tattle that is up to you but some of us have am alternative view and whether you like it or not will post it here.
I suggest it is people such as yourself that are displaying a "holier than thou attitude"

I note Zealot's post about her staying out all night and then saying no decent WOMAN would do that. Some posters on this thread might be happier in Saudi Arabia imo.
And your attack on sparrow is quite unjustified GEORGE. Logically you seem to be saying that if you don't agree with what's posted on a thread you shouldn't reply or even read it. Never noticed you following that advice.
I am actually not going to post on this thread any more because some of the contributors are seriously annoying me with their double standards. I appreciate there have been some perfectly sensible comments as well.

salmon spray and sparrow, by telling people to 'mind their own business' you are both trying to control what people can or can't say. You have no right to do that, and I have no idea what you think gives you both the right to do that in the first place.

I think we should cut his wife a bit of slack.i can imagine she was genuinely very upset when she realised that she was the cause of him taking his own life.break ups are part & parcel of modern day life,fortunately not many end with a suicide.for all those judging her harshly hindsight’s a wonderful thing.

fishwives thread

^ correct

Salmon Spray ..

I have 4 kids , all to the same woman .

We have been together for 20 years . If for some reason I started an affair and my wife was devastated , for me to go out on a Christmas night out and not come home is absolutely appalling in my opinion . You obviously do not reason with this . If she done it to me I would be absolutely devastated . Some folk would decide to kill but Richard decided to take his own life . You should understand this Salmon Spray , with a name like that you must have been around a long enough time to understand emotions . That Saudi comment was pathetic .
Thanks

I know for an absolute 100% fact my wife would not do that to me . She knows how much it would hurt . Mrs Woollcott had absolutely no respect for her hubby . Fall out of love and be civil but don't rub it in

feel sorry for the kid

perhaps we need to let this one go guys , it resonates for me a great deal , its very much a there but for the grace of god type of thing for me ,,, a couple of times in my life , i wasnt quite where he must have been but pretty close ,,, i was on a wild windy stormy beach near dover ,,, screaming at the waves ,,, why did this happen to me ,,,   i was in the process of huge change in my life with and this is serious a couple of quid in my pocket and 400miles from home ,i never thought bout chucking myself in more just vented my rage at the sea which couldnt answer back , I was able to change things luckily , but i still have the same ,,, why wont she listen  why is she doing this to me , ??? this thread reminds me of those bad bad times ,

if it reminds me and makes me sad and thoughtful it must be the same for others , time for me to move on i think ,,,

Why has this got so much attention? I have read several posts since my own but none immediately after yet,will do so shortly.The reason I have not is simply because I did not think it would carry on as it has.

The simple fact in my view is that there was no need to have this posted on here in the first place.It is not just one or even two lives concerned,whatever "She" did or "He" did is no different to what happens in many thousands of lives each day,right or wrong,whatever your view it happens.

When someone suffers from mental health issues and determined to end their lives it does not take much to tip the balance,to blame an individual for tipping that balance is so completely wrong.Nobody knows how she felt during the relationship,the pressures etc.......ditto nobody really knows his state of mind throughout.

Very few who determine to take their own lives do so for only one reason and very few who decide to take such an action are prevented from carrying it through,I know from personal experience of much loved and respected people doing the unthinkable.

It is those who are left to pick up the pieces who are most affected and especially those who do not understand e.g children and hence why a thread like this does no good to anyone.It should be left to the friends and family to cope with the future and not some anon individual on this forum or any other platform to make a tragedy no more than idle gossip and speculation. IMVHO

But you advised a place lay of TR at over half win SP ,so your view is worthless imo ,so stop pontificating ,it’s ok for the MSM so why not on here ? I think it should be discussed as it may help others ,the idea that the “poor woman “ should be left alone is not one I can agree with . Although the 3rd party needs equal attention . The Trainer needed help was put into a corner and his mrs can not hide behind mental health as being the cause imo

That post is probably why your user name reflects your intelect.

Yes

You don't like the thread but you still want to use it to put yourself on some sort imaginary pedestal?

When the original thread was produced there were a number of people who rubbished it as idle speculation. Now there has been some factual confirmation it wouldn't surprise me if exactly the same people are still trying to suppress comment.

It is a racing news story so I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed. Do you honestly think people within racing don't discuss these things?

kemo, your thoughts puts things into perpective.Lifes not easy at times.