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29 Mar 19 22:13
Date Joined: 26 Nov 02
| Topic/replies: 88 | Blogger: fivetosix's blog
what has happened with josaphine  no winner for 37 days  only getting the odd mount on rags  remember couple of years ago  mounts in nearly every race when she was at a meeting and over 100 winners in 2017  be lucky to get 100 mounts under 20/1 this year
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Report Deltâ March 29, 2019 9:34 PM GMT
riding on chapmans back @ chelmsford the beginning
Report fivetosix March 29, 2019 9:53 PM GMT
there has to be something  gone from palmer  nothing for suroor for a long time
Report saddo March 29, 2019 9:53 PM GMT
Hunger for success makes em do their job well...............................then they relax.
Report Vubiant March 29, 2019 9:59 PM GMT
Strange situation . You would think that anyone who rides 100 winners in a season has established their credentials and if they have a competent agent they should continue to get plenty of rides and winners. I can only guess that JG must have wrong-footed herself through something she said or did. Would be a shame if her career stalled just as it was getting going.
Report Deltâ March 29, 2019 10:04 PM GMT
Hugo rubbing it in with Nicola riding tomorrow too
Report posy March 29, 2019 10:15 PM GMT
Goes back to her going on holiday last year. She really shot herself in the foot .
Report betting_masta March 30, 2019 12:02 AM GMT
Report betting_masta March 30, 2019 12:03 AM GMT
been diabolical this year. 4% win rate compared with 10, 11, 9 the previous years
Report betting_masta March 30, 2019 12:03 AM GMT
i reckon she can't be assed. you listen to her talk she doesn't seem to give one. she's going through the motions. no zest
Report mrcombustible March 30, 2019 8:03 AM GMT
The owners of Executive Force may be able to answer your question.
Report sparrow March 30, 2019 8:06 AM GMT
So it was all down to one ride, was it?
Report penzance March 30, 2019 10:19 AM GMT
was getting beat long before she was on it.
Report wondersobright March 30, 2019 12:32 PM GMT
Vubiant • March 29, 2019 9:59 PM GMT
Would be a shame if her career stalled just as it was getting going

you're talking like it hasn't already stalled

3-72 (4%) so far this year continues the downward spiral that begun last year
Report jonjon March 30, 2019 1:10 PM GMT
Exposed like an 8 yo handicapper round suvall.

Report acey deucy March 30, 2019 1:29 PM GMT
Odds On to up sticks and move abroad....No other option.
Report wondersobright March 30, 2019 2:09 PM GMT
curtis is a MASSIVE upgrade for palmer imo
Report fivetosix March 30, 2019 4:11 PM GMT
josie will have to think about america  imagine she would do well there  cant see her lasting the season here  with a few no hoper mounts every week
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2019 4:26 PM GMT
ticked a few gender boxes riding million pound blubloods against the pig farmers at thirsk,recar,you,d need top be blind bwith no arms not to knock a few winners
Report granitjack March 30, 2019 4:29 PM GMT
She’s not on the decline....was just not very good and overrated in the first place...
Report 1st time poster March 30, 2019 4:34 PM GMT
do any of the looney pundits still think she might be champion jockey one day or as that ship sailed
Report sparrow March 30, 2019 4:37 PM GMT
Must have broke a few hearts here after riding 100+ winners despite every single one being a steering job.
Report granitjack March 30, 2019 4:59 PM GMT

Mar 30, 2019 -- 11:34AM, 1st time poster wrote:

do any of the looney pundits still think she might be champion jockey one day or as that ship sailed

No different to some of the looneys on here who big Briony Frost up lol Excited

Report onlooker March 30, 2019 5:00 PM GMT
Give the girl some credit.

She soldiered on, and slugged it out for a few seasons - Before she got her break.

2015    16    165    10    27    14    29    £94,423    -13.50
2014    0    38    0    5    3    3    £6,829    -38.00
2013    1    24    4    3    3    3    £5,467    -21.00
2012    0    2    0    0    0    0    —    -2.00
Report betting_masta March 30, 2019 5:18 PM GMT
bryony is genuinely a good jockey and a great person

josephine is shagging gay kelleway* on the sly so is more interested in munching rug than riding winners

Report sparrow March 30, 2019 5:22 PM GMT
From July 2016.

If tenacity, determination and a refusal to accept that the odds are stacked against you are essential equipment for an apprentice jockey, then Josephine Gordon is fully equipped for the job.

The 23-year-old from Devon has been the riding find of the year. Having been leading apprentice for the winter All-Weather season, she is now giving hot favourite and reigning champion Tom Marquand a run for his money in the championship race for up-and-coming riders during the summer Turf campaign.

Gordon rode her 22nd winner of the Turf season and 39th of the year on Cold Fusion at Newmarket on Friday and trails Marquand by only three winners, with the pair split by Joe Doyle on 23 winners.

If she could lift the title she would emulate Amy Ryan (2012) and Hayley Turner (2005), Britain’s most successful female Flat jockey who retired last year but is coming back to ride for the Girls’ team in the Shergar Cup at Ascot on August 6.

Ironically, Gordon’s win on Cold Fusion came in the race in which Turner made her competitive comeback. ‘When I look at Josephine, she’s much better than I was at the same stage of my career, she’s really good,’ said Turner, nominating her as the most likely current jockey to emulate her achievements.

Gordon’s tally includes wins for Hugo Palmer and Sir Michael Stoute but not so long ago, riding a winner for one of the country’s top trainers would have seemed a million miles away. Her first 60 rides yielded a solitary success and there was an 18-month gap between that and her second victory.

Little wonder Gordon almost turned her back on trying to become a jockey — twice. First when her initial job did not yield rides and then when she felt that progress had failed to materialise.

‘I gave up for a few weeks,’ she said. ‘I went back to Devon to decide what I was going to do. I was looking at jobs abroad, not race riding, just galloping racehorses. But I just thought I had to give it one more chance, otherwise I’d regret it.

‘That’s when I got in touch with Lambourn trainer Stan Moore and said, “I want it but it’s up to you to you give me rides”. We got along and he threw everything my way.’

Gordon pinpoints three wins on Moore’s The Burnham Mare last year as a turning point. She said: ‘It got my name out there. A few other trainers like David Evans picked up on me and others followed.’

Now she can even look back on the testing times as a positive. ‘It did get me down but, having now had these winners, I won’t get cocky. I have been in that dark place and I don’t want to go there again.’
Report Deltâ April 2, 2019 4:37 PM BST
shes back

oi oi
Report shady69 April 2, 2019 4:39 PM BST
Report sparrow April 2, 2019 4:39 PM BST
Report fivetosix April 2, 2019 8:53 PM BST
great to see josie get a winner
Report GEORGE.B April 17, 2019 4:43 PM BST
a transformation from Teruntum Star there after a couple of SHOCKERS under Gordon.
Report sparrow April 17, 2019 5:13 PM BST
Do you think Stott would have won on the horse in those two races then?
Report sparrow April 17, 2019 5:19 PM BST
6 (4)
13 [23]
Runner Jacket
2. Teruntum Star (FR) 7/1
Josephine Gordon
Kevin Ryan
7    813 p    95    –    33    –   
Always in last and never going well, tailed off (tchd 13/2)

7 (7)
2 [6]
Runner Jacket
3. Teruntum Star (FR) 6/1
Josephine Gordon
Kevin Ryan
7    91 v    97    49    84    –   
Dwelt, soon outpaced and pushed along in rear, switched right and no headway under pressure over 1f out, never involved (op 5/1)
Report GEORGE.B April 17, 2019 5:29 PM BST
At no point did I say that, but what was noted on the day, particularly last time, and stridingedge will remember which thread it was (Andrew's?), was the stinking, rancid drift on the betting that preceded an absolute stinking run. Hth.
Report penzance April 17, 2019 5:33 PM BST
according to sky the horse went off
at the price it opened up the 4 times
she rode it,apart from 1 opened 5/1
SP 6/1.
Report GEORGE.B April 17, 2019 5:44 PM BST
I'm sure it went out to double figures, cuz it commented on one of the treads (as I said, I think Andrew's, stridingedge may be able to remember, cuz he said it would win back on turf), but obviously it must have come back in a bit.

Whatever, after two runs under Gordon where it finished 6/6 and 7/7, and was virtually pulled up to a walk last time, there was a transformation in its form today.
Report GEORGE.B April 17, 2019 5:54 PM BST
This thread is about Gordon, and I've happened to notice that having finished last on its last 2 runs under Gordon, TS came out today and won under another jockey. This is all fact.
Report sparrow April 17, 2019 6:07 PM BST
So being that the thread is about an alleged decline of form by this jockey I assume you blame the jockey for her past defeats on the horse. Otherwise why not start a thread about the rapid transformation of form by the horse.
Report impossible123 April 17, 2019 8:43 PM BST
It is universally accepted good horses make good jockeys, not the other way round. However, good trainers do not make horses run faster, but bad trainers make good horses run slower.
Report fivetosix April 18, 2019 12:33 AM BST
it was i who started this thread  in no way suggesting josie is in any way riding horses to mirror exchange drifts,what i am saying is that a jockey who rode 106 winners in 2017  has ridden 5 winners in 2019  has one mount between tuesday and saturday this week  has lost position with hugo palmer  has to be a story hats not in public  all the trainers who supplied mounts and winners 2 years ago now dont want to know
Report thegiggilo April 18, 2019 1:00 AM BST
It's very strange by far the best female i've seen on the flat in this country,trouble is once confidence goes it can take two or three seasons to come back the way it's going she won't be around seems incredible...
Report roadrunner46 April 18, 2019 2:37 AM BST
i like watching female jockeys riding winners tooLaugh
Report fivetosix June 4, 2019 10:49 PM BST
well into the flat season  josie getting a lot less mounts than i imagined  still difficult to see how her star has fallen so far so quickly
Report ptlish June 4, 2019 11:23 PM BST
Gerald Mosse class jockey 1 winner this season, Tom Quealey Frankels jockey 1 winner this season, its tough.
Report Deltâ June 4, 2019 11:26 PM BST
ryan moore
charlie poste
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