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18 Feb 19 15:12
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Or Elixsoft at 2.4 to place, which do you think is the better value, We all know about LH thanks to BB but other than Wazza and some other hard hitters, think most folk would think that Elixsoft to place is a better bet, with a small back on the win.
Has decent C/D form in C5 and form figures on AW here of 132243 never btn more than 2 1/2 lengths except for the 4th when coming back from 8 months off, the last 3rd was on slower ground, looks good to at least place to me and if LH isn't at top of his game may win.
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Report sparrow March 12, 2019 6:26 PM GMT
No need to apologise barton, it's all in the game. Grin
Report Willie Shafter. March 12, 2019 9:12 PM GMT
domino14    23 Feb 19 10:26 
Wherever they run him now, he'll had to run off 72. Life will be more difficult for him now. Could be a good time to lay him next time as he'll have to run in a 0-70 and carry a big weight, or in 0-75 and higher. Impressive as he has been, will be much higher in weights now and against far stronger opposition.

Cry
Report mouse muldoon March 12, 2019 9:15 PM GMT
Where's dommy?
Report BennyBinion1 March 13, 2019 8:34 PM GMT
Southwell 1 mile tomorrow.

Are we all backing the forum's fav again??
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 12:45 AM GMT
Is this the first ever Southwell evening meeting???   

I can't remember seeing that track under the lights before.

The Lion currently around 7/4 on here.
Report G Hall March 14, 2019 10:57 AM GMT
Quite simple really if you have been backing him all along then you keep backing him, if you have never backed him before then you lay him simples
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 12:50 PM GMT
11/10 now
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 6:24 PM GMT
Odds on now

If it's anything like Tuesday evening a lot of people are going to try and chase back Cheltenham losses on The Lion.
Report pablo-fanque March 14, 2019 6:27 PM GMT
Is this the first ever Southwell evening meeting???

yes alun
Report pablo-fanque March 14, 2019 6:27 PM GMT
1st under lights
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 6:47 PM GMT
Backed him every run,..letting him go today,his sire Lope De Vega only had one winner at Southwell,mind only had  18 rnrs...not a big enough sample,but it doesn't add confidence....
Good luck to those going in....really hope he wins.
Report Barton Bank March 14, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
Hoping he wins also for obvious reasons. Not interested in backing him at odds on though he's clearly handicapped to win if he likes the surface. Hopefully those who do collect.
Report SlippyBlue March 14, 2019 6:57 PM GMT
I feel the same as you BB, not for me either at odds on but I will cheer him home and hope he wins for you.
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 6:58 PM GMT
Good luck to everyone taking the odds, as usual i'll be backing something EW against it, as you get such good prices. May well win again but 1st time on Fibresand not for me. Think Baron Run is a massive price to beat it, and probably do Tum Tum as well, had less runs in past year than the Lion has had in past 2 months and could have more improvement to come.
Report BestShot March 14, 2019 7:02 PM GMT
The dam hated soft, based on that he should struggle - hammer gun really well weighted too
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 7:03 PM GMT
Agree with your sentiments BB damsire has decent record at Southwell and gives you hope he'll be okay,certainly the form he's in,but the dam had one runner at Southwell 0/2.

Again good luck.
Report 11kv March 14, 2019 7:07 PM GMT
Will hack up, good luck Barton.
Report tons of sobs March 14, 2019 7:12 PM GMT
Don't know if it's just the lights but the kickback looks horrendous....like a sandstorm!
Report Burkey1885 March 14, 2019 7:24 PM GMT
BB
Has Lion had a racecourse gallop
Report knot in wood March 14, 2019 7:28 PM GMT
good luck tonight BB.

do you mind me asking:

would you have a interest in all the slipstream racing horses,give admiral rooke a good EW chance at chelmsford tomorrow evening but the dave evans horse amor fati as strong form relative to the grade.
Report Early Morning Riser March 14, 2019 7:58 PM GMT
Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 8:24 PM GMT
I really hope Lion Hearted wins, but rather than jinx him with my money I am going E/W on Baron Run.
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 8:31 PM GMT
2.08 at the off
Report alun2005 March 14, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
End of an era.
Report FrankRA March 14, 2019 8:33 PM GMT
That was rancid
Report stewarty b March 14, 2019 8:35 PM GMT
A race too much/too soon.
Report BestShot March 14, 2019 8:37 PM GMT
Hated the going like I said, you need to like soft going to act at southwell, hammer gun should've won off 80 earlier in the season there, 7lb less today
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 8:38 PM GMT
Got both of my selections placed, but really thought i'd got the 1-2 till he put the Hammer down, but a nice profit anyway. Run had to come to an end sooner or later but clearly didn't stay on the surface BB.
Report onlooker March 14, 2019 8:39 PM GMT
Early Morning Riser     14 Mar 19 19:58

Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.
-------------

? .......... to 97 ?

Think you have got your wires crossed, there. Happy
Report FrankRA March 14, 2019 8:44 PM GMT
Not necessary the going,how on earth did the jockey think he could go flat out for a mile, was beat long before the going became an issue,and any decent trainer would know whether their horse would go on the surface.
Report stewarts rise March 14, 2019 8:44 PM GMT
Onlooker surely you know that the h'capper always puts horses up at least 27lbs after they've been btn 80 odd lengths in last on lto run?Grin
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 8:46 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2019 -- 9:39PM, onlooker wrote:


Early Morning Riser     14 Mar 19 19:58 Satisfy going up 27Lb after tonights run. Its been here there and everywhere. 46 on here atm so worth having a small bet out of interest.-------------? .......... to 97 ?Think you have got your wires crossed, there.


yes, I saw that too but assumed it was a "palpable error" ... a typo

Report stewarty b March 14, 2019 8:47 PM GMT
WD sr.
Report Early Morning Riser March 14, 2019 8:54 PM GMT
onlooker, have a look at the at the races cardcard, got it going up 27lb to 97 in future races.
Report Sergeant Cecil March 14, 2019 9:48 PM GMT
"you need to like soft going to act at southwell"

Utter, utter nonsense and disproved about 10 years ago.
Report Art Decko March 14, 2019 10:09 PM GMT

Mar 14, 2019 -- 10:48PM, Sergeant Cecil wrote:


"you need to like soft going to act at southwell"Utter, utter nonsense and disproved about 10 years ago.


do you have a link to the research that disproved the theory ?

Report onlooker March 15, 2019 1:37 AM GMT
Early Morning Riser    14 Mar 19 20:54
 
onlooker, have a look at the at the races cardcard
----------

I know that I am correct ... No matter what MISTAKES ANYBODY else may have made. ...


- and that is - 'NO OFFERS' ... NOT even a 1.01.
Report Barton Bank March 15, 2019 8:09 AM GMT
Sorry missed your question, Knot In Wood. All 3 of the Slpstream Racing horses are owned by a group of ten of Mick Appleby's owners in equal shares.
Report knot in wood March 15, 2019 8:26 AM GMT
no problem BB, thanks for your reply.

admiral rooke was 1 of my many "cliff" horses when with dodds,hope he runs a big race for you tonight.
Report Barton Bank March 15, 2019 8:30 AM GMT
He's been largely disappointing but there was enough in his penultimate run to suggest he isn't a lost cause.
Report knot in wood March 15, 2019 8:41 AM GMT
i thought he was a good buy for the money when i noticed he had gone to mick appleby.

imo best with a bit of cut in the ground on the turf, so definitely can win races of that current mark.

best of luck.
Report stewarts rise March 16, 2019 11:02 AM GMT
The performance of LION HEARTED (IRE) which started favourite and finished unplaced, was considered. Michael Appleby’s explanation was noted that the gelding was outpaced and unsuited by the fibresand surface. He added that the race may have also come too soon for LION HEARTED (IRE) having raced 2 days previously. The Veterinary Officer reported that a post-race examination, during routine testing of the gelding, failed to reveal any abnormalities. The Veterinary Officer subsequently reported that LION HEARTED (IRE) was treated for post-race heat stress.
Report alun2005 March 16, 2019 11:10 AM GMT
Get well soon Lion.
Report stewarts rise March 22, 2019 6:05 PM GMT
There you go!
Report tons of sobs March 22, 2019 6:13 PM GMT
Everything comes to those that waitGrin...................................................like deathSad.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:26 PM BST
Any news from connections about The Lion this evening at 18:30 ?
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 6:31 PM BST
His toughest task to date but been working well. I have Able Jack as the one I fear most but couldn't put anyone off the Lion.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:33 PM BST
Best of luck
Report Insideshrewdie April 4, 2019 6:49 PM BST
well done BB...Mathers didn't cover himself in glory!!
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:50 PM BST
BRAVO LION
Report ashleigh April 4, 2019 6:50 PM BST
did well to win that.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:50 PM BST
Lion went 24.0 in running
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 6:51 PM BST
Didn't enjoy seeming him pulling so hard early. Not the first time he's defied things not going entirely his way to win. Love him.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:52 PM BST
1.01            £13,218       
1.02            £4,979       
1.03            £4,314       
1.04            £754       
1.05            £2,091       
1.06            £507       
1.07            £1,044       
1.08            £442       
1.09            £122       
1.1            £1,892       
1.11            £93       
1.12            £55       
1.13            £82       
1.14            £219       
1.15            £2,072       
1.16            £94       
1.17            £134       
1.18            £94       
1.19            £218       
1.2            £1,227       
1.21            £16       
1.22            £240       
1.23            £0       
1.24            £140       
1.25            £277       
1.26            £52       
1.27            £1,552       
1.28            £39       
1.29            £151       
1.3            £155       
1.31            £46       
1.32            £129       
1.33            £111       
1.34            £53       
1.35            £117       
1.36            £122       
1.37            £42       
1.38            £34       
1.39            £21       
1.4            £473       
1.43            £284       
1.44            £32       
1.46            £6       
1.48            £5       
1.49            £0       
1.5            £148       
1.52            £45       
1.53            £6       
1.54            £1,026       
1.55            £6       
1.56            £52       
1.57            £9       
1.58            £82       
1.59            £2       
1.6            £168       
1.61            £5       
1.62            £20       
1.63            £15       
1.64            £13       
1.66            £1,473       
1.67            £34       
1.68            £97       
1.69            £26       
1.7            £45       
1.71            £194       
1.74            £8       
1.76            £223       
1.79            £30       
1.81            £35       
1.82            £85       
1.83            £23       
1.84            £64       
1.85            £56       
1.87            £23       
1.9            £331       
1.92            £14       
1.93            £21       
1.95            £22       
1.98            £21       
2            £199       
2.02            £555       
2.04            £82       
2.06            £110       
2.1            £61       
2.12            £104       
2.16            £16       
2.18            £69       
2.2            £237       
2.22            £50       
2.24            £4       
2.26            £5       
2.28            £52       
2.32            £76       
2.34            £3       
2.38            £1,207       
2.4            £2,234       
2.42            £4,554       
2.44            £4,615       
2.46            £1,299       
2.48            £1,376       
2.5            £1,668       
2.51            £1,331       
2.52            £6       
2.53            £812       
2.54            £70       
2.55            £1,092       
2.56            £22       
2.57            £1,649       
2.58            £80       
2.59            £1,964       
2.6            £165       
2.61            £3,889       
2.62            £118       
2.63            £5,702       
2.64            £6       
2.65            £11,938       
2.66            £2       
2.67            £15,500       
2.68            £168       
2.69            £38,446       
2.7            £54,101       
2.72            £48,050       
2.73                £3,834    £5,450
2.74            £46,453       
2.76            £38,525       
2.78            £26,932       
2.8            £18,807       
2.82            £10,683       
2.84            £10,284       
2.86            £4,866       
2.88            £16       
2.9            £1,578       
2.92            £10       
2.94            £54       
2.95            £229       
2.96            £4       
2.98            £21       
3            £478       
3.05            £486       
3.1            £204       
3.14            £802       
3.15            £9       
3.19            £277       
3.2            £22       
3.24            £160       
3.25            £78       
3.29            £232       
3.3            £168       
3.33            £185       
3.35            £21       
3.38            £17       
3.4            £11       
3.43            £4       
3.45            £21       
3.48            £38       
3.5            £139       
3.52            £18       
3.55            £17       
3.57            £24       
3.6            £14       
3.65            £7       
3.67            £10       
3.7            £33       
3.71            £39       
3.75            £121       
3.8            £104       
3.81            £75       
3.85            £75       
3.9            £83       
3.95            £129       
4            £864       
4.1            £275       
4.2            £651       
4.3            £504       
4.4            £323       
4.5            £655       
4.6            £254       
4.7            £181       
4.8            £124       
4.9            £93       
5            £258       
5.1            £45       
5.2            £92       
5.3            £52       
5.4            £56       
5.5            £120       
5.6            £19       
5.7            £10       
5.8            £41       
5.9            £0       
6            £10       
6.2            £6       
6.4            £141       
6.6            £17       
6.8            £57       
7            £109       
7.2            £4       
7.6            £12       
7.8            £6       
8            £44       
8.6            £108       
8.8            £100       
9.2            £21       
9.4            £2       
9.6            £1       
9.8            £24       
10            £86       
11            £136       
11.5            £2       
12            £20       
12.5            £12       
13            £0       
14            £31       
14.5            £8       
15            £56       
16            £24       
17            £13       
17.5            £1       
18            £14       
19            £37       
20            £9       
24            £6
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 6:53 PM BST
And Lion could have won 8 handicaps by now if those 2 engagements hadn't been cancelled. He was long odds-on fav for both.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 6:57 PM BST
There's a 10k bonus for the horse winning most AW races in the AW season. He also missed out on a race he would have been odds on for due to the flu virus suspension of racing, alun. He's joint top now so we have to try and win again or Matterhorn will beat him on countback (I think) or prize money.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 7:00 PM BST
Just realised Executive Force has also won six and is running in the next. Hopefully something beats him.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 7:05 PM BST
Fingers crossed for The Lion.

Where next and when?
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 7:28 PM BST
Back to Chelmsford next week.
Report alun2005 April 4, 2019 7:52 PM BST
Cheers BB
Report Raggetty April 4, 2019 9:02 PM BST
Great to see Lion Hearted doing what he does best ie making a mockery of his current handicap mark. So surprising that he was tooken to Southwell to race on a a surface which clearly didn't suit.
Report shoodacoodadidnt April 4, 2019 9:08 PM BST
Looks like a nice strong big type Barton. Might he jump one day?
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 9:09 PM BST
Yes, terrible decision to try a surface once with an unpenalised winner who started at even money. The people responsible for his placement this season are clearly idiots and fully deserving of your criticism, Raggetty. I shall pass your words to my fellow owners so they also know what fools we have all been.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 9:09 PM BST
I wouldn't have thought he would stay the trip over jumps, shooda.
Report shoodacoodadidnt April 4, 2019 9:16 PM BST
Plenty of milers / mile and a quarter flat horses get the 2m in a hurdle race - but sure Barton.... probably right. More wondering what you do with him when handicapper has a hold of him .... will happen eventually - I hope not for ages - he has been a superstar, that's for sure.
Report Raggetty April 4, 2019 9:16 PM BST
No problems Barton. Well bought though.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 9:23 PM BST
Shood, I would say at least 90 percent of milers don't get the trip over jumps. Lion probably wouldn't stay 10f on the Flat.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 9:24 PM BST
The plan when we bought Lion Hearted/Decoration of War and Admiral Rooke for Slipstream Racing was to run them through the AW/early turf and sell them at the sales in May. As things stand, he will therefore be on his way.
Report shoodacoodadidnt April 4, 2019 9:34 PM BST
Nice job all round Barton. Hard enough to find a horse to win a race, let alone run up that kind of sequence.
Report Barton Bank April 4, 2019 9:38 PM BST
Pretty sure nothing I have had a share in has won six in a season before. Had a couple that won five.
Report Raggetty April 4, 2019 9:44 PM BST
Should never have been tooken to Southwell.
Report alun2005 April 11, 2019 4:12 PM BST
The Lion due off now at Chelmsford


2nd fav
Report alun2005 April 11, 2019 4:14 PM BST
AND WINS !!!!!
Report ashleigh April 11, 2019 4:14 PM BST
what a winning machine he is.Cool
Report Barton Bank April 11, 2019 4:15 PM BST
10k bonus for us now unless Matterhorn or Executive Force can win one of the big races on finals day. What a tremendous horse he's been for us.
Report ashleigh April 11, 2019 4:16 PM BST
with 7 wins must be on for the most a/w total wins prize this season.
Report stewarts rise April 11, 2019 4:16 PM BST
Brilliant the way he keeps winning despite pulling so hard, lernt my lesson last time and backed IR at between 7 and 8, great stuff BB, bad luck with the other one as well.
Report Rider April 11, 2019 4:16 PM BST
double figs ir probably because of the commentator was trying to be clever
Report SlippyBlue April 11, 2019 4:17 PM BST
I didn't have a bet in the race but I was cheering Lion Hearted home, great stuff.
Report starkeycars April 11, 2019 4:17 PM BST
Wow certainly got the right name has a lions heart fought like one there
Report Barton Bank April 11, 2019 4:18 PM BST
Did you mean to wish us bad luck there, stewarts? Tad harsh!
Report stewarts rise April 11, 2019 4:26 PM BST
Not at all BB, don't know what makes you think that, i'm very pleased for you!Grin
Report handtorofe April 11, 2019 4:27 PM BST
wd Barton.
Report broadsword April 11, 2019 4:40 PM BST
CHELMSFORD.......hard pullers win regular away these days
Report Barton Bank April 11, 2019 4:42 PM BST
Stewarts, it was the bit that said "bad luck with the other one"!
Report stewarts rise April 11, 2019 4:42 PM BST
Sorry BB, thinking of wrong horse, Micks that came 2nd in the 1st!
Report Barton Bank April 11, 2019 4:50 PM BST
Gotcha. Don't own any of that one. It's Admiral Rooke in the next we have. He is capable of winning a bad race. Probably went a bit too hard last time. Quick turnaround a bit of a niggle.
Report stewarts rise April 11, 2019 4:52 PM BST
I know BB, just a temporary mix up, good luck.
Report Barton Bank April 11, 2019 4:54 PM BST
Cheers. Just hope he breaks well enough to use that draw.
Report tons of sobs April 18, 2019 4:33 PM BST
Out again tomorrow...Class 2 app h'cap. 1.30 Lingfield.
Report ashleigh April 18, 2019 4:54 PM BST
bb, if either matterhorn or executive force were to win and lion hearted lose who would be the top winning a/w horse?
Report Barton Bank April 18, 2019 8:00 PM BST
I think either of the other two would beat us on countback. Executive Force has nay chance in the Classic though surely. Matterhorn clearly does have a chance though the Gosden horse is going to take a hell of a lot of beating. We could have gone to Chelmsford tonight instead but we thought the horse and the trainer and staff had earned their crack at the big prize.
Report alun2005 April 19, 2019 1:39 PM BST
Out of the frame at Lingfield.
Report stewarts rise April 19, 2019 1:42 PM BST
Just a step too far, but doesn't in any way take away from what he's achieved.
Report shoodacoodadidnt April 19, 2019 1:47 PM BST
completely agree - unbelievable - worth a tilt that step higher
Report tons of sobs April 19, 2019 2:28 PM BST
I thought he ran ok considering how busy he's been,plus the big jump in class...will win again i'm sure..
Report ashleigh April 19, 2019 4:21 PM BST
matterhorn took his crown.Sad
Report isleham April 19, 2019 4:29 PM BST
a sensible thread on the forum..some rarity on here nowadays..thank you chaps
Report alun2005 April 19, 2019 4:41 PM BST
Are there any plans for a Turf campaign this summer BB ?
Report Barton Bank April 20, 2019 8:35 AM BST
The horse is set to be sold along with Admiral Rooke and Decoration of War in May. Which was the policy decided upon when we set up the syndicate. Might have one run on turf or that might be it. Depends how he comes out of the race. I don't think Lingfield suited him as well as other tracks he's run on for all we also know the opposition was better as well.
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