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23 Jan 19
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I am here just to rant because I am so annoyed. I know it's not about racing - but they do take bets on racing. I had a bet on Djokovic to beat Nishikori in the Australian Tennis Open last night( I know that the odds were prohibitive but I don't always bet at such short odds ) The bet was accepted. He was winning 6-1 4-1 when Nishikori retired injured. I looked in my account earlier to see my winnings - they were not there. I contacted betstars support and the person there told me because NIshikori retired early my bet was a loser. I told him that Djokovic won the match therefore I should get paid - he told me that he didn't win the match (how do you argue with that). Anyway I am here not because of the money involved (it wasn't that significant) - I'm here to tell you to be careful placing bets with this lot. I don't know of any bookmaker in the UK or Ireland that wouldn't have paid on this bet. Has anyone else encountered this? ps - rant over!!
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edit - they voided the bet (it wasn't a loser - but it should have been a winning bet)
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I thought it would have been a winner too. Couldn`t understand how they could make it a loser but now Void as you make clear.
Personally I wouldn`t bet with these small bookies, but I`m afraid that you don`t have a leg to stand on, it`s in their Rules: In the event of a match starting but not being completed bets will be void, unless after the start of the match a player is disqualified. In this case, the player/team progressing to the next round or being awarded the victory will be deemed the winner. |
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On here (both Exch and SB) you'd be paid out as at least one set had been completed, which seems reasonable.
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Another obscure firm I've never heard of, where do they find these shysters?
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Took over skybet
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Thank you, ayedo. As I never use them I'm a little out of touch with these bookmaker firms these days.
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Their rules back them up I'm afraid:
Tennis All bets will stand irrespective of a change of schedule (or day of match). All wagers will be void in the event of a match starting but not being completed, except for bets where the outcome has already been determined. For example - a game is abandoned at 6-4, 5-1. In this instance, bets on the first set winner will be settled as a winner. The only exception to this rule is where a player is disqualified, after which the player or team progressing to the next round will be deemed the winner. |
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Loads of bookies have the same rule - William Hill , **** to name 2 well known ones.
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Boils
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Boils
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I can understand the OP's annoyance but weren't there some rather dodgy betting activities linked to retirements in tennis matches a few years ago ? If so presumably they are covering themselves. One does hope they are voiding bets on the "loser" as well though.
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Tennis has always been the dodgiest sport mainly through injuries, it is usually in the smaller non- televised tournaments.
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numerous cases of unusual betting patterns and player retirements in the past, is why the rule was brought in.
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Nikolay Davydenko a more high profile case
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It is not the first time this season that a Davydenko match has come under scrutiny. He is still under investigation by the ATP after a defeat in Poland in August which attracted suspicious betting patterns. Davydenko retired from the third set of his second-round match against Argentina's Martin Vassallo Arguello after citing a foot injury, and Betfair, an online bookmaker, took the unprecedented step of making void more than £3 million which had been wagered on the outcome.
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Betstars is a subsidiary of The Stars Group :
Betstar is a different company . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stars_Group The company produces and offers online gaming products and services including poker, casino and sportsbook through its online gaming division, Stars Interactive. These online brands are PokerStars, PokerStars Casino, BetStars and Full Tilt Poker.[2] The Stars Group is also the owner of the PokerStars Championship, PokerStars Festival and MEGASTACK live poker tournament brands, and brands live poker rooms including PokerStars Live at the Hippodrome Casino London, PokerStars Live at the City of Dreams in Macau and PokerStars Live at the City of Dreams in Manila. Stars Interactive is headquartered in Onchan, Isle of Man where PokerStars has had an office since its early inception. Betstar : . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betstar |
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The Stars Group Completes Acquisition of Sky Betting & Gaming
http://www.starsgroup.com/press-center/the-stars-group-news/the-stars-group-completes-acquisition-of-sky-betting-and-gaming |