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By:
TheCoat
When: 16 May 18 16:08
and Loder
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 16:13
yeah but Cole is still training today,

what happened, I know trainers lose owners but surely new owners step in and you don't lose your skills,

he still has owners like Fitri Hay who is a billionaire Crazy
By:
Happy Valley
When: 16 May 18 16:17
Royal Ascot 1991 was it or perhaps 92
By:
Happy Valley
When: 16 May 18 16:18
Sir Pekan was a helluva type for a 2yo
By:
acey deucy
When: 16 May 18 16:18
karma innit. Plain
By:
ProSniper
When: 16 May 18 16:19
The cavemen. For a long, long time now I've considered him to be operating at the level of G Kelleway.. I can't even remember the last time I backed one of his. If his yard was up for sale it could be flogged at a jumble sale..alongside G Kelleway's
By:
1830
When: 16 May 18 16:19
Was Dillum one of his ?
By:
onlooker
When: 16 May 18 16:27
Yes - 7 Furlong (Good to) Firm ground specialist.
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 16:53
Paul was Champion Trainer in England 1991 and has won the Champion European Trainers 4 times

that's from his website Shocked
By:
stewarts rise
When: 16 May 18 17:02
who remembers when Paul Cole was the king of the 2y olds ?!

Is it his mum?
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 16 May 18 17:12
dilum, firm pledge, magic ring. those were the days.
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 17:16
Culture Vulture

and people remember Generous for The Derby but he was also a good 2y old, won The Dewhurst Crazy
By:
lewisham ranger
When: 16 May 18 17:18
aye culture vulture was one of my favourite horses, owned by christopher wright.

seen her race against marling in the coronation stakes, countless times on youtube.
By:
trimmer
When: 16 May 18 17:33
saros.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 16 May 18 17:37
6 Epsom derby winners from the stable Wink
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 17:40
when Richard Quinn was stable jockey, lots of the 2y olds were automatic favs and lots were winning first time out, then Alan Munro came in and it all went pear shaped !
By:
themightymac
When: 16 May 18 17:57
Not a world beater by any means but Step Ahead was a good 2-y-o, about late 70s.

And who can ever forget White Wonder - pure white horse
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 18:01
or Tosan, totally black.
By:
themightymac
When: 16 May 18 18:09
He was also a great trainer of jockeys. He produced 3 Champion Apprentices in Robert Edmondson, David Dineley, and Richard Quinn.

Mark Malham was also another good apprentice he had but he didn`t win the championship. Whatever happened to him?

In fact, whatever happened to the 3 champions? Last I heard Quinn was learning to become a trainer but nothing seems to have materialised.
By:
themightymac
When: 16 May 18 18:13
Pass The Peace and Dance Parade were two nice fillies
By:
blackbarn
When: 16 May 18 19:05
1991 Coventry Stakes - Dilum, taking turns with Munro to see who could get their heads closer to the turf.
By:
blackbarn
When: 16 May 18 19:10
Here's Dilum - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAeXBZd46LQ
By:
tyred
When: 16 May 18 19:20
Magic Ring was around the same time, Royal Ascot winner I believe !
By:
Yahoo
When: 16 May 18 20:14
Mid late 8os lots of first time 2yo winners some at very rewarding odds. Many didn't go on as 3yos though.
By:
Yahoo
When: 16 May 18 20:20
The great Peter O sullevan remember one of his comms involving a Cole 2yo that always makes me chuckle.
Danski who was touted as Coles 2yo that season (87-88?). Had seconditis
Think it was King George day at Ascot 2yo race for unraceds. and a close finish concerning  Danski and Plaid (P Walwyn)
Danski and Plaid Danski and Plaid theres nothing in it, and they cross the line together Planski and Daid
By:
Yahoo
When: 16 May 18 20:20
*best 2y0
By:
Yahoo
When: 16 May 18 20:21
Generous was a good 2yo (Dewhurst huge odds) that did go on to make a smart 3yo!!!
By:
habin67
When: 16 May 18 20:44
Was unlucky that principle owner Fahd Salman died in his 40s,didn’t he jock Quinn off just before the Derby and appointed Alan Munro?
Remember him winning about 3 2yr races at Royal Ascot one year.
By:
differentdrum
When: 16 May 18 22:02
Unfortunately, 2018 owners don't have such long memories. It's almost a miracle if the likes of Cole and Cumani train any sort of winner these days.
By:
Yahoo
When: 16 May 18 22:30
Quinn lost the Salman rides  ultimately because of him being unhappy over a ride he gave Generous I recall.
Dilum was a monster 2yo but was a classic case of a Cole 2yo not training on at 3.
When Berkshire won at Royal Ascot I really thought he might have one to put him back on the map, but it was not to be.
Sarab was one of my favourite PFI horses. A 7f specialist who was not quite as good over a mile.
By:
themightymac
When: 16 May 18 22:46
Quinn rode over 2000 winners which is quite an achievement. He still rode for Salman after he lost the ride on Generous. I think it was following a ride in Ireland for Salman, that he lost the ride on Generous, but I can`t remember the name of the horse. He was very unlucky to be 1st jockey to Sir Henry when Cecil was going through arguably his worst spell, but still rode some very good Cecil horses and loyalty to Sir Henry helped Cecil get back in the big time.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 16 May 18 23:02
Sir Henry Cecil's 2 year old's in 80's would be tough to beat also loved Jack berry's, two legends.
By:
tyred
When: 17 May 18 11:36
Ibn Bay was the ride that lost Quinn the Salman rides if memory serves Crazy
By:
theres only one best tonic
When: 17 May 18 11:44
Fair Cop another Ascot winning 2yo
By:
jamilla14
When: 17 May 18 13:39
Paul Cole , in the late 70s early 80s was the man to follow.
By:
tyred
When: 17 May 18 13:48
he was champion jockey in 91 so maybe that year too !
By:
tyred
When: 17 May 18 13:49
champion jockey eh Laugh

champ trainer imo Crazy
By:
equine flew
When: 17 May 18 13:59
About 10 years I got told by someone connected to the stable that they had a flying 2yo called Shampagne.  Manged to get about a grand on scattered everywhere.   Horse gets beat 1/2 a length by a David Evans horse the pair 7 lengths clear of everything else.

Shampagne obviously wins his next 2 races and goes on to be rated 104.   The Evans horse never came close to winning again in its further 14 runs.

That's racing !!
By:
Happy Valley
When: 17 May 18 18:00
cole's demise had nothing to do with alan munro who soon left for HK, having won many big races for him, nor richard quinn's fault who was very professional
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