Have you been restricted by William Hill ?

They reinstated my account which was closed 6 years ago , it remains to be seen how much they will let me bet though.

at cheltenham my max was £250 each way at 7-1

William Hill to trial £1k minimum bet guarantee on ITV races


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William Hill to trial £1k minimum bet guarantee on ITV races
HBF says its hopes the offer will inspire other firms to “provide a similar level of service to their customers” Brad Allen 20 April 2018 EmailPrint  Share
William Hill has announced a new minimum bet guarantee offer allowing online customers to win up to £1,000 on ITV-televised races.

The operator said it will begin trialling the offer this week, with the guarantee kicking in at 10am on race day.

The firm will lay all bets to lose up to £1,000 online and £5,000 in shops.

Group Trading Director Terry Pattinson said:  “William Hill recognise that some customers are frustrated by not being able to get a sizeable bet on televised races, while we also want to ensure that early prices are there for our recreational customers and are not picked off by the few.

“We hope this offer appeals to both groups and the bet guarantee will apply to customers who may have been restricted in the past.”

For early bird customers prices will be available on all ITV races at the 5 day declaration stage so customers can choose to bet at the early prices or have a guaranteed minimum bet on raceday.

A Hills spokesperson told EGR the guarantee would “definitely not result in overrounds going up automatically”, with Hills “still betting to a competitive number”.

EGR understands the move is supported by trading teams and is also partially a response to the growing frustration among punters about restrictions.

Hills will also drop its promise to guarantee Pricewise selection prices, saying it no longer makes sense to trade prices that are 16 hours old.

The guarantee was welcomed by the Horseracing Bettors Forum, which has been lobbying for minimum bet liabilities (MBL) as part of its Betting Charter.

“The right to place a reasonable bet remains at the very heart of the aspirational nature of betting on racing, and Hills has set a solid precedent for those races which fall into the remit of the offer,” the group said in a statement.

“We hope and trust that the provision of a MBL will not impact on Hill’s ability to continue to offer competitive pricing on their UK racing markets, and we further look forward to the extension of this guarantee to a wider range of UK horse races in due course.

“The adoption of MBL across all UK horse races is an important step towards achieving Betting Charter recognition from HBF, and we believe this announcement lays down a challenge to other operators to provide a similar level of service to their customers.”

They reinstated my account which was closed 6 years ago , it remains to be seen how much they will let me bet though.

Jimmy Hill will lay you a bigger bet and he's been dead years

Billy Hill too and not the one you call William.

Predicted this would happen 6 years ago.

These firms will start running out of horse punters as there's nobody younger coming through.
So they might have to bite the bullet or stop taking bets on horses altogether.

My son and his mates sometimes go down the pub on Saturday afternoon to watch the football or Rugby, they use to have a bet on the horses,
one day they went to Corals opposite the pub, the 7 of them went £10 each to back a horse in a big race on the tele.
The manager had to call head office, they were offered £20 at 8/1, it won. They never backed horses in there again.
In fact, theres a bloke in there who lays the bets, my boy said he's a diamond, got a massive pension and lays them there £10s and £20s.
More money leaving racing for the black market

Dambuster
Shame on the manager
.Ronnie.

I cannot bet with them as they will only lay me pennies.

ewe only have pennies.

Second time around, some good punters infiltrating the ranks of bookmakers now, as they have to delete your previous data after 5 years of inactivity.

as they have to delete your previous data after 5 years of inactivity.

he he you sweet summer child

I'll gladly look a fool and thank the oversight in my case..but please tell us all what rules pertain if you know, dave1357..

The actual "rule" is that firms can keep data for as long as they deem necessary and in any case you just need to spend a bit of time at the GC site to familiarise yourself with bookmakers' attitude to rules.

Well I'll thank the stars for being able to re-open the one account everyone wants. Same name d-o-b different address.

But a couple of others recognised me - so I guess I was just lucky.

restricted to nil and banned from entering any of their retail premises.

reason - they didn't like it "up 'em".  unlucky

"From 10AM" by which time there is no value left!

Thanks for nothing imo.

Quite a decent catch Rico, i suspect most bar Hayden.

The firm will lay all bets to lose up to £1,000 online and £5,000 in shops. Laughable, they won't do such a thing.  The lies by these corporations is becoming quite embarrassing.

These Firms PR guys who come on TV and blatently lie do make me laugh

Why hasn't the Advertising Standards Authority done anything about misinfo adverts by bookies then? I think suspension is necessary to stop this sharp-practice.

So today  racing is on itv, imagine walking into a Hills shop at 10.05am, and wanting a Grand on a 5/1 poke in the 4.15
a 6 runner novice stakes race, or 10 monkeys a horse in the 4.45 a class 5 handicap.
I'd love to take evens you'd get a knockback

6 year old thread.

Wot is going on in Austria?

Well the account was reinstated but all the max bets were still set at 0.00 it’s was complete bs for me.

I know people now that take bets in pubs for £20 at track prices this is going to gain traction and racing will lose out , well played Mr Rhodes.

£20 ? 

lay you anything you like at "track prices" safe in the knowledge i can stick the whole lot back on here for a guaranteed prophet ...

In the past I facilitated their emails for feedback and surveys usually in return for free spin promotion. However, over the last few months this stopped. And, since today the horseracing 'epic boost' eg antepost 3/1 to 6/1 (even 12/1 to 24/1) has been stopped with no reason given. 

I think post 2000G (I've built up several single/treble/acca bets thro' this promotion) I'd be most likely banned or restricted as I've never entertained their fobt or build-your-odds promotions.

I think its about time an independent regulator should be bought in, there should be different licences for FOBT and arcade games,
then a different one for Horseracing and sport. The same as betting shops as well.

I think high street betting shops ought to be treated like sex shops of old. No advertising at the front with blacked-out fronts. It's prudent to make it as uninviting and uninteresting as possible. And, possibly relocated too in side-streets (not main roads).

They stopped giving me bog on multiples but prob did that to everybody. Funny but it happened after a succession of good wins (a few k).

I think high street betting shops ought to be treated like sex shops of old

should be 2 types of high street shop.  traditional bookmaker shop and casino shop.  if you want to play in the casino shop you need to have a membership card and have passed a series of rigorous affordability checks.

Australia can make betting and horseracing work. Why can't the UK? The prize money is astonishingly good, I believe.

Australia and France put punters' money back into the sport. Racing is still huge in Australia
Big tv coverage, daily supplements even results with photos for every race. All pubs have TAB terminals and tv.  Downside is all pool tables, dartboards etc have been thrown out for the 'pokies' which we call FOBTS and which are causing big social probs.
As someone who has always opposed the idea I now think UK racing needs a tote monopoly. I didn't mind bookies profits staying here in the past but now all the money is going out of the country. Bookies are part of the global economy now and  UK racing can sink or swim. Sad.

How would a GB Tote monopoly make any money in that global economy of which you speak?

British punters are accustomed to being offered odds and taking them. They're not going to suddenly switch to the Tote because the state tells them to. They'll just access foreign-based bookmakers or exchanges online.

I cannot bring myself to go in to a shop number different reasons. restricted on line fancy Angel in the 1000 gns backed it here at less than the 7/2 in a shop my experience even if you go in price has gone or they cannot find worse you get a numpty trying to justify their importance its the machine gov hey ho how many do that every single day.

there is a video on YT from a guy in WH, you can hear the lady behind the counter effing and blinding because she has to pay out on a winning acca and how it has spoilt her bonus, the customer was then banned after

Drgordon you've left out the fact about Australian gamblers losing 3 times the amount UK gamblers do. Of course, this just proves how absurd the introduction of Affordability checks in this Country really are. Problem gambling is at a minimal level here
and it certainly doesn't warrant such
intrusive checks and requirements that many UK punters have already experienced. What a truly ridiculous state of affairs.

@DrGordons

A Tote monopoly would - imo - finally kill UK Racing. Does anyone here use the Tote other than for silly outsider placepots at the big festivals or chasing value when the jackpot rolls over enough to be value?  And would anyone be desperate enough to bet singles on UK racing on the Tote if the Exchange or bookies were not here?  I would not, for one.

I remember moving to London in 2002 to go racing more, travel around and smash held coupon prices football, bad ew multiples. Nowadays the 'manager" in shops knows what you're doing on the machines before you go collect.
Zero horse backers but loads moody fckers moaning and punching roulette machines. Dunno why they even pay to show live racing.

Never thought I would bet with the tote.
At Aintree this year I broke a habit of a punting lifetime.
The tote window was at the top of the stand where I had a reserved seat. Do I go down to the books all 40 0f em to try to beat SP?.
No point every one of them under BF. Tote quarantees SPs or better.

The Tote wouldn't be able to guarantee against SP if they had a monopoly. There wouldn't be an SP any more.

The sport of Horse Racing is very poorly funded, and propped up by rich owners. It's not sustainable.

The fact that turnover went down last year overall, yet bookies profits were maintained, obviously means they are taking more out, proportionally, than every before. They set SP's now, which gives them even more control, and was a huge nail in the coffin, in my opinion.

A Tote monopoly might work, it has a chance. As things stand, can we seriously believe that the sport will get better funding going forward?

It's a stick or twist position. Risks both ways. I'd twist myself.

Can we not have a tote monopoly which also offers fixed odds if you want them if Betfred could do it why couldnt a racing authority owned system do it.

Frankly to only allow 80p e/w on an antepost bet for the main Saturday handicap just should not be allowed.

Frankly Slybet not much better but Chamberlain says nothing and has his nose in the trough. What chance for ordinary punters?