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Big Boss
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Report par December 18, 2017 1:49 PM GMT
starter should be disciplined for that
Report corruptus in extremus December 18, 2017 1:49 PM GMT
give craig nichol a gun with two bullets,one for the horse and the other for the starter
Report tashkent terror December 18, 2017 1:50 PM GMT
Sonic matched at 2.02 at suspend!!!
Report duncan idaho December 18, 2017 1:50 PM GMT
in fairness, wasnt that obvious that they were off imo, so not surprised suspend monkey unsure aswell
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 1:50 PM GMT
another VDV here

Betfair have removed the BFSP's
Report leedad December 18, 2017 1:51 PM GMT
bloody joke that start.

Its a farce that is declared a runner. It was still being led in
Report wondersobright December 18, 2017 1:51 PM GMT
its totally different to VDV

winners getting paid @ 16.7 BSP no deductions
Report wondersobright December 18, 2017 1:51 PM GMT
VLV sorry
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 1:52 PM GMT
Sonic was BFSP 2.24, would have been pandemonium if that had prevailed for all BFSP backers/traders
Report john92 December 18, 2017 1:52 PM GMT
Bf in chaos. I've got a negative balance
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 1:52 PM GMT
yeah VLV, typo
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 1:53 PM GMT
Me too john92
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 1:53 PM GMT
the question is, who hoovered all the cash up ? Betfair in house BOTs (*NAP)
Report lcredd December 18, 2017 1:54 PM GMT
Me too ... WTF Cry
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 1:54 PM GMT
I don't normally trade the horse racing markets.... that is a reminder why....
Report Amanda Hugnkiss December 18, 2017 1:58 PM GMT
Acc balance

-£408.00

AngryCrazyLaugh
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 1:59 PM GMT
I have a feeling that hovered up bets will be VOIDED
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 2:00 PM GMT
*HOOVERED
Report Wesdag December 18, 2017 2:03 PM GMT
Not even managed to cancel unmatched bets at suspension ffs!
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:05 PM GMT
Anybody got a clue what's happening with the accounts balances??
Report pablo-fanque December 18, 2017 2:06 PM GMT
all betfair have to do is implement a trigger that when the stater lets go of the tape/stalls open, the market suspends automatically . the signal could be sent via 4G or something similar ( radio frequencies maybe Confused )
Report mandarin December 18, 2017 2:06 PM GMT
Ridiculous, horse came under rules, end off
Report Amanda Hugnkiss December 18, 2017 2:08 PM GMT
Cant even have a bet.

I'm exposed....Excited
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:08 PM GMT
I feel your pain.... ExcitedSad
Report koikeeper December 18, 2017 2:10 PM GMT
THE EBF 'NATIONAL HUNT' NOVICES' HURDLE RACE (CLASS 4)
Having reviewed the start the Stewards were satisfied that SOME REIGN (IRE) had refused to race after the start had been affected, and was therefore deemed to be a runner.

They need to go to specsavers!!
Report john92 December 18, 2017 2:11 PM GMT
There will be pure panic at hq. The quality of staff is frighteningly bad. Nobody will have a clue what's happened.
Report jackkat December 18, 2017 2:12 PM GMT
Come on betfair settle the race how can such a multi billion firm have such shi7 computer software
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:13 PM GMT
Horse planted himself at the start, definitely a runner
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:13 PM GMT
now it appears its been deemed a non runner,,
Report Art Decko December 18, 2017 2:14 PM GMT
Just wondering how many people saw the negative balance, thought for a moment it was positive, and hurried to withdraw ...
Report tips December 18, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
missing 40 quid from my account?
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
Lol a fair few I recon ExcitedLaugh
Report nuthouse December 18, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
170 missing form mine
Report pablo-fanque December 18, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
you can't change the rules as you go along as to what suits your company . if betfair have lost out due to cross matching or whatever, they have to take the hit .

horse started , so it was a runner .
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:15 PM GMT
I've got a 3 figure minus...
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:16 PM GMT
100 % a runner by the rules of british racing end of.
Report nuthouse December 18, 2017 2:17 PM GMT
from betfair Hi there. Apologies for the inconvenience here, we are aware of an issue and are currently working on getting this fixed as we speak.
Report tomhunt December 18, 2017 2:18 PM GMT
Betfair Help‏Verified account
@BetfairCS
8m8 minutes ago
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Replying to @bneavex09
Hi, the horse came under starters orders therefore we will be settling as per our normal market rules.
Report jrw December 18, 2017 2:18 PM GMT
Betfair sportsbook money back void bets
Report jrw December 18, 2017 2:18 PM GMT
Betfair sportsbook money back void bets
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:19 PM GMT
LFT )Refused to race)
Report Wildcat Army. December 18, 2017 2:19 PM GMT
Kudos to Billies who have voided.
Report brassneck December 18, 2017 2:19 PM GMT
how come we get a load of posters on the forum when panic sets in LaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report sparrow December 18, 2017 2:25 PM GMT
Who are these people?  Shocked
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:27 PM GMT
All I'm after is to get my ballance back......
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:28 PM GMT
looks like they are going to void the race ,, all bets maybe voided in this race
Report brassneck December 18, 2017 2:28 PM GMT
its not difficult to sort it out=apply the Vodkatini rule.
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 2:29 PM GMT
Who Betfair or stewards??
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:31 PM GMT
official  all bets voided
Report mandarin December 18, 2017 2:31 PM GMT
The result stands, 7 ran, so BF market should simply follow....ridiculous!
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:31 PM GMT
The race cant be void from Betfair
Report Virgin December 18, 2017 2:31 PM GMT
Laid Sonic  ir  ..........

ANY CHANCE betfair ZZZZZzzzzzz
Report RMc December 18, 2017 2:32 PM GMT
Sportsbook voided bets when that wrong horse won at Chepstow BUT Exchange ran with the result !   
They will do what they want ... as usual  !
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:32 PM GMT
my stsakes have been refunded ,, thank u betfair
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:32 PM GMT
stakes
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 2:34 PM GMT
I may be a cycnic ,but can only see Betfair voiding exchange bets if either
a) official race voided
b) beafair bot has screwed up and done some dough
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:35 PM GMT
Cardenden, exchange or sports book buddy?
Report Virgin December 18, 2017 2:36 PM GMT
b) beafair bot has screwed up and done some dough

Nap Mischief
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:36 PM GMT
I dont care about Betfair bots, I backed the winner in good faith
Report cardenden December 18, 2017 2:36 PM GMT
this could take months to sort out
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 2:38 PM GMT
sportsbook or exchange Card??
Report Wesdag December 18, 2017 2:40 PM GMT
Some strange goings happening here.

Looks like on Current Bets they are trying to void some bets but allowing others to stand.
Report Virgin December 18, 2017 2:44 PM GMT
Off Time: 13:41:24

Winning Time: 4m 46.30s

.......
Report RMc December 18, 2017 2:45 PM GMT
Betfair General Rules 1.2

If a market is scheduled to be turned in-play but Betfair does not suspend the market at the time of the 'off' (so unmatched bets are not cancelled at that time), but the market is intentionally turned in-play at a later time during the event, all bets matched after the time of the 'off' will stand.
Report OwenGlendower December 18, 2017 2:52 PM GMT
Hopefully bf will have sorted this by Boxing Day. Surely it's only a case of pressing a button!
Report Gazzboy2770. December 18, 2017 2:52 PM GMT
What a mess.... Still have a few hundred pound negative account....
Report jamesdean December 18, 2017 2:52 PM GMT
fixed now, settled
Report tomhunt December 18, 2017 2:53 PM GMT
ditto
Report Trident December 18, 2017 2:53 PM GMT
Settled finally!
Report mandarin December 18, 2017 2:54 PM GMT
Making the rules up as they go along...what a sham!
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 2:54 PM GMT
Exchange bets all stand . Market settled . Money back in account
Report Virgin December 18, 2017 2:54 PM GMT
Some Reign

Total matched on this event:£854,313
(Exchange: £841,371, BSP: £12,942)
Reduction Factor:61.1%
Betting summary - Volume:£487,211
(Exchange: £480,378, BSP: £6,833)
Last price matched: 1.43

1.29    £4        £1,727       
1.30    £135        £8,758       
1.31    £323        £11,400       
1.32    £59        £16,779       
1.33    £518        £49,390       
1.34    £5        £47,995       
1.35    £227        £30,882       
1.36    £22        £24,436       
1.37    £105        £36,629       
1.38    £14        £20,840       
1.39            £19,321       
1.40    £8        £36,204       
1.41    £3        £10,472       
1.42            £5,452       
1.43    £2        £12,447       
1.44            £9,027       
1.45            £11,881       
1.46            £14,506       
1.47            £9,978    £3,287    £1,666
1.48            £3,358       
1.49            £3,980       
1.5            £6,571       
1.51            £4,851       
1.52            £10,387       
1.53            £6,942       
1.54            £10,332       
1.55            £7,195       
1.56            £4,049       
1.57            £777       
1.58            £287       
1.59            £131       
1.6            £101       
1.61            £1,424       
1.62            £209       
1.63            £158       
1.64            £1,096       
1.65            £163       
1.66            £111       
1.67            £156       
1.68            £5,969       
1.69            £425       
1.7            £324       
1.71            £291       
1.72            £245       
1.73            £2,457       
1.74            £72       
1.75            £360       
1.76            £1,244       
1.78            £32       
1.79            £619       
1.8            £74       
1.82            £82       
1.83            £58       
1.84            £62       
1.85            £88       
1.86            £24       
1.87            £24       
1.88            £6,820       
1.89            £47       
1.9            £62       
1.91            £47       
1.92            £42       
1.93            £46       
1.94            £43       
1.95            £42       
1.96            £41       
2            £1,727       
2.02            £638       
2.06            £138       
2.08            £67       
2.1            £68       
2.12            £200       
2.16            £139       
2.18            £50       
2.2            £14       
2.22            £20       
2.24            £160       
2.3            £588       
2.32            £86       
2.36            £6       
2.4            £5       
2.44            £95       
2.46            £37       
2.5            £58       
2.52            £223       
2.54            £223       
2.6            £82       
2.64            £2       
2.7            £248       
2.72            £47       
2.84            £73       
2.88            £42       
2.9            £46       
3            £2,554       
3.05            £209       
3.15            £11       
3.2            £18       
3.25            £31       
3.3            £20       
3.35            £12       
3.4            £60       
3.6            £44       
3.65            £22       
3.7            £21       
3.9            £2       
4            £21       
4.2            £57       
4.4            £14       
5            £29       
5.8            £723       
6            £16       
6.8            £740       
7            £112       
7.2            £112       
7.4            £223       
7.6            £774       
7.8            £71       
8            £21       
8.6            £41       
8.8            £14       
9            £20       
9.2            £68       
9.4            £24       
9.6            £8       
9.8            £79       
10            £1,147       
10.5            £61       
11            £43       
11.5            £270       
12            £108       
12.5            £125       
13            £250       
13.5            £68       
14            £180       
14.5            £6       
15            £525       
15.5            £33       
16            £355       
16.5            £8       
17            £234       
17.5            £58       
18            £211       
18.5            £111       
19            £115       
20            £248       
21            £117       
22            £302       
23            £90       
24            £464       
25            £381       
26            £62       
27            £8       
28            £28       
29            £62       
30            £121       
32            £5       
36            £35       
38            £61       
40            £218       
42            £9       
46            £27       
50            £76       
55            £36       
60            £506       
65            £5       
70            £77       
75            £4       
80            £1       
95            £18       
100            £879       
120            £32       
130            £1       
160            £9       
170            £0       
190            £0       
200            £206       
210            £3       
240            £0       
250            £0       
260            £6       
280            £0       
300            £0       
400            £0       
490            £0       
500            £0       
590            £0       
600            £0       
660            £158       
670            £0       
700            £0       
750            £0       
790            £0       
800            £0       
890            £19       
900            £0       
920            £0       
930            £4       
950            £24       
970            £3       
980            £9       
990            £18       
1000            £753   


For info : They paid my ir win bet Plain
Report houseofpain December 18, 2017 2:55 PM GMT
never saw the race, was it deemed a n/r by all the books except the exchange.
Report Art Decko December 18, 2017 2:56 PM GMT
Will Betfair compensate me for the three winners which I would have backed, but couldn't get on due to their foul-up?
Report brassneck December 18, 2017 2:56 PM GMT
i lost my money.i backed some reign.and i dont think he ran too well but betfair say i lost so thats good enough for me.
but some how i think he should have been a non runnerSad
Report hulk23 December 18, 2017 2:57 PM GMT
billies and slybet refunding - fair call on a hotpot
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 3:00 PM GMT
".i backed some reign.and i dont think he ran too well"LaughLaugh
Report brassneck December 18, 2017 3:00 PM GMT
order order ,order in the court,case number 514 on the calender murphy v betfairLaugh
Report geoff m December 18, 2017 3:00 PM GMT
".i backed some reign.and i dont think he ran too well"LaughLaugh
Report mouse muldoon December 18, 2017 3:01 PM GMT
Report howard December 18, 2017 3:04 PM GMT
So what are the BFSP's for the race ?
Report limestone lad December 18, 2017 3:18 PM GMT
I backed the winner at BSP was 24 or 25  before the race was it? happy with the result but BSP has to be manipulated was 16.5 or they didn't suspend in time more like it
Report Willie Shafter. December 18, 2017 3:32 PM GMT
lad i know laid £1800 @2.2 when tape went up..another lad i know laid £200 @9 when tape went up...the 1800 been voided the 200 paid.

Crazy
Report pablo-fanque December 18, 2017 3:38 PM GMT
WS , how are they justifying voiding any bets ?
Report Da Special 1 December 18, 2017 4:03 PM GMT
Same, cant even find the lay bet now that was matched. Not in history as matched, cancelled or voided. funny the matched back bet is clear to see.
Report hulk23 December 18, 2017 4:05 PM GMT
if it's all above board you'll get paid, if you're one of wazza's mates sitting there all day waiting to rip people a new backside on fallers, photos, stewards, objections, dodgy starts you might not.
Report pablo-fanque December 18, 2017 4:27 PM GMT
hulk , which bit is not allowed , layign a horse pre-race , or laying it in running ?
Report grappler December 18, 2017 4:35 PM GMT
i laid 1k in place at 1.3 as tapes went up.got paid.
Report Wesdag December 18, 2017 4:39 PM GMT
Looks like they c0cked up the settlement & are now trying to say some bets were not matched.
Report Wesdag December 18, 2017 4:54 PM GMT
Similar situation here, had 2 lay/back bets, 1 lay settled, 2 backs but not 2nd lay!!
Report The Cheek December 18, 2017 5:04 PM GMT
They were late suspending the market at the off yes?
Report Big Boss December 18, 2017 5:23 PM GMT
horse was 1.33 on here prior to playing up.

BFSP WAS 51.4

suspend monkey about as quick as the turning circle of the Titanic
Report pablo-fanque December 18, 2017 5:27 PM GMT
the point is, the suspend guy can be slow on many races everyday . just because on this occasion a horse refused to race ( and more so that it was the fav ) it shouldn't matter to those that layed it pre-race or in-running.
Report Willie Shafter. December 18, 2017 11:55 PM GMT
beggars belief that a time can be ascertained as to when the cut off point is becos the market wasnt manually suspended on time.
Report pablo-fanque December 19, 2017 12:20 PM GMT
i can't ever re-call bets being voided because of slow suspension of markets . it is only because the hore refused to race as some bots money got swept , nothing to do with slow suspension imo
Report big aitch December 19, 2017 12:25 PM GMT
no different to a horse falling or being pulled up, I thought I had won about £30 on the race, then it showed my balance was minus over £50, then after an hour or so I managed to lose £4 on the race, utter madness, they cancelled some bets and left others. ALL bets should stand
Report Willie Shafter. December 19, 2017 12:28 PM GMT
utterly mind boggling.
Report longbridge December 19, 2017 12:51 PM GMT
@Willie

"beggars belief that a time can be ascertained as to when the cut off point is"

How so?  Official start times are published to the second, surely?
Report dave1357 December 19, 2017 7:57 PM GMT
longbridge they don't resettle every race as per the official start time afaik.

Just seems odd that in a scenario where automated betting is likely to have been at a severe disadvantage, they take a close look and resettle.
Report Willie Shafter. December 19, 2017 11:36 PM GMT
so basically they saying..if their suspender is late they can re adjust to a time they decide?
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