As long as one of us got something out of it, craigie Well done.

He'd caught the eye for different reasons on both his first two starts for Tuite, but when I picked him last time, he turned out to be a huge drifter and the run was an absolute shocker.

Down in grade today, a lot stronger in the betting, and he's gone in.

jeezus christ george,its all bummers and benders on this thread recently

The Detainee, 1pt win @ 10-1, 5.00 Lingfield

The Detainee caught my eye on his second racecourse start at Lingfield (turf) last May, not best poitioned as the race panned out, running green, not getting a clear run from 1.5f out, before running on well to snatch 3rd; that might not have been the strongest of maidens (though the runner-up won off a mark of 74 on his handicap debut), but it was still disappointing that The Detainee didn't build on the promise shown in four more runs last season.

His trainer subsequently moved yards and he has had his string so far in 2017 in very good form (8 individual winners, 13 wins in total), so the signs were good when The Detainee reappeared over 10f at Lingfield and finished third behind improver Smiley Bagel (who has won twice since), however, his latest start over 12f at Kempton was another disappointing one (though possible he could have done with a stronger pace), never involved and beaten 11l.

He drops back slightly in grade here and maybe he'll be more effective back at Lingfield (though a steady pace would be a concern as he gives the impression he stays well), so he's given another chance, as his two standout pieces of form make a mark of 57 look a fair one.

Just to correct an error in me little write-up, the reappearance run behind Smiley Bagel came over today's C/D, not 10f

Noted The Detainee in my GG Alert 19 May pre-race as being better bred for the trip than his rivals George and post-race as a likely improver for a bigger step up than he's had so far ....

19 May 16 Ling 66-1 GOOD might be staying on late ? [3rd 50-1] watch if steps up to 14f + on breed try on good or gts ....
10 Aug 16 Kempton SLOW never involved
20 Mar 17 Kempton 13f STANDARD ? 8th 15-2

Selected today by default really as don't like the price of Powered, Put The Boot In's trainer is very quiet and should of shown something over a suitable flat trip lto and Hong Kong Joe is a little under-priced on a fair return @ Kempton after a long break just beating a similar fresh Hawaiian Freeze @ 66-1 who has yet to re-appear on these shores .....   but I really want to see a 14f ++ effort on any surface .... maybe your pace angle will help as well

[missed the yard move cheers ]

Let's hope we're not both riding the same cliff-horse

You make a good case for Turnbury ....

Nice write ups both
I agree with V & the case

Close call with both placers

Thanks George. Was surprised you didn't pay it more attention as you'd backed the trainer's last winner.

WD PHS on your winner on ANOTHER thread, if you have a loser tomorrow i'm sure you will be eager to jump across and post the result on here.

I laid his other one
Does that help ?

Sorry to hear that, dealer

rest of thread even

Yeah, saw on Oddschecker it was 11/4 last night, after your 5:27PM post.

El Torito, 1pt win @ 11-1, 6.15 Kempton

El Torito caught the eye on his penultimate start over 7f at Lingfield, when returning from nearly six months off and making his AW debut. He was held up last in a race in which the winner made all, and he looked a bit rusty, having to be given a reminder and pushed along fully 3 furlongs out, but he did look to be travelling better in the home straight and kept on well enough without being knocked about.

He was a bit disappointing on his latest start at Chelmsford when upped in trip to one mile and grade to class 4, finishing last of the four runners, however, it's possible the steady early gallop was against him and he could make no impression in the straight, keeping on at one pace to be beaten just under 3l.

He remains unexposed on the AW and it's possible he may have a better gallop to run at this time, so at the prices he gets a tentative vote, with the promise of that AW debut not yet forgotten.

GL George and alot of support for it .However not for me .With Camargue .Its related to several &f winners and expect this to suit.Its significantly down in class and rates and drawn well but lg anyhow.

Camargue 3        39.4
Glorious Artist 6        36
On To Victory 1        35.6
El Torito 5        32.2
Trenchard 2        31.6
Hisar 4        29.8
Island Brave 7        28.6

No selection for Thursday

Running Totals

P/L : +17.2

Win stat: 5/24 (21%)
Place stat: 11/24 (46%)

Points staked so far: 42

Sunday to be precise Chav, or Monday if you want to count a blank day.

Date	Horse	Stake	Early Price	BFSP (-5%)	BFSP PL	ISP	Fin Pos	Early Odds p/l	BFSP p/l	ISP p/l	IR Low
22-Mar	Treble Strike	1	6-1	10.87	3.04	10	0	-1	-1	-1	9
23-Mar	Who Told Jo Jo	1	12-1	30.45	4.55	23	0	-1	-1	-1	32
24-Mar	Aragon Knight	2	9-1	7.11	2.19	7	0	-2	-2	-2	6.2
24-Mar	Elusive Approach	2	8-1	5.96	2.31	6	3	-2	-2	-2	5.6
24-Mar	double	1						-1	-1	-1
25-Mar	Billy's Boots	1	10-1	13.05	2.91	11	2	-1	-1	-1	4.3
27-Mar	Entihaa	1 EW	33-1	19.07	5.09	17	3	5.6	3.09	2.2	2.02
28-Mar	Cruise Tothelimit	1	6-1	7.46	3.47	7	1	6	6.46	6
29-Mar	Monzino	1 EW	50-1	41.48	8.59	34	0	-2	-2	-2	1.55
29-Mar	Sheila's Palace	2	9-2	6.77	2.13	6	0	-2	-2	-2	4
31-Mar	Elusive Approach	2	11-2	5.34	1.88	5	1	9.35	8.68	8
31-Mar	Billy's Boots	1	9-1	8.44	2.65	8	0	-1	-1	-1	8
01-Apr	Examiner	1 EW	14-1	22.28	4.55	15	0	-2	-2	-2	17.5
01-Apr	Stormy Antarctic	2	7-2	5.37	1.74	4.3	2	-2	-2	-2	1.5
01-Apr	Sexton Blake	1	7-1	3.41	1.63	3.5	0	-1	-1	-1	2.24
01-Apr	double x2	2						-2	-2	-2
02-Apr	Florenza	1 EW	20-1	38.67	7.21	26	0	-2	-2	-2	30
02-Apr	Bin Battuta	1	8-1	5.16	2.34	5	1	8	4.16	4
05-Apr	Viola Park	1	8-1	10.88	3.03	9	2	-1	-1	-1	2.96
07-Apr	London Grammar	1	7-1	11.7	3.28	11	1	10	10.7	10
07-Apr	Turasoir	1 EW	25-1	13.11	4.03	13	0	-2	-2	-2	8.2
07-Apr	double	1 EW						-2	-2	-2
08-Apr	Haaffa Sovereign	1 EW	20-1	19.21	5.56	15	0	-2	-2	-2	16
09-Apr	Rosenborg Rider	1 EW	40-1	62.58	9.27	26	0	-2	-2	-2	65
09-Apr	Rapid Applause	1 EW	8-1	12.4	4.04	10	1	11.25	14.44	11.25
11-Apr	The Detainee	1	10-1	5.21	2.14	5	2	-1	-1	-1	1.33
12-Apr	El Torito	1	11-1	6.19	2.85	5.5	0	-1	-1	-1	3.3
								17.2	14.53	8.45