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By:
s.kenbo
When: 02 Jan 16 14:54
Man up ffs.
By:
marve
When: 02 Jan 16 15:00
life is over
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 02 Jan 16 15:01
was Charlie banned too?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 02 Jan 16 15:04
Agree with kenbo, though the rules are a joke really.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 02 Jan 16 15:04
Don't think so IS,, but not 100%.
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:06
The Stewards held an enquiry into the use of the whip by Tom Scudamore, the rider of the winner, SOLL, from approaching the second last. Having heard his evidence and viewed recordings of the race, they found him in breach of Schedule (B)6 Part 2 in that he used his whip above the permitted level . The Stewards suspended Scudamore for 7 days as follows: Saturday 16, Sunday 17, Monday 18, Tuesday 19, Wednesday 20, Thursday 21, Friday 22 January 2016. Under Rule (B)54 the Stewards also fined the rider £1,150.
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:07
and so he should be
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:10
Part of the game now, fine's & suspension's are de rigueur !
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:11
No respect for the horse, very much like his father .Look at, me not the horse.
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:12
Interview me and iam all about horse welfare .Cheat and liar.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 02 Jan 16 15:13
For clarification, when I said the rules are a joke I didn't mean Scudamore shouldn't be punished. I meant that until they start dishing out punishments to the horse (which isn't to blame, of course) then jockeys will continue to flout the regulations, especially when it's for a decent pot.
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:14
Exactly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:17
Imo when the Scuds/Pipes depart the game ,the better it will be .History does not lie.
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:18
Look what he ( Big old Scu) is doing with the stable he is involved with,Laughable really.
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:25
The last time I saw Big Scu being interviewed on the Morning Line, he seemed brahms & liszt !   Shocked
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:32
You cant change History .
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:33
Big old Scu seams to think hiding away near kinross he can do what he wants with horses.How wrong can he be.
By:
San Quentin
When: 02 Jan 16 15:35
Caught Lucy hook line and sinker
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:40
For anyone interested Scu on Desert Island Discs .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0093qjy
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Jan 16 15:41
You can imagine the difficulty selling the game to the uninitiated. The conversation may go something like this:

Fan - So. The idea of the game is you beat the horse to win the race.
Potential fan - I see. So everybody wacks hell out of their horse.
Fan - Well not quite. Some do wack the hell out of it and some stick to the rules on how many times you can beat the horse.
Potential fan - Ah. So there are rules.
Fan - Well yes but not everybody complies.
Potential fan - I can see that could be a problem. Still I suppose if they disqualify the horse when the rider cheats that will help keep a lid on things.
Fan - Err. Well they actually ban the jockey for a few days.
Potential fan - But won't that mean where you have an expensive race a jockey will flog a horse nearly to death to win, get a nice earner and then have a few days off?
Fan - Pretty much.
Potential fan - So how do you know who is going to flog their horse and when and who will stick to the rules?
Fan - You don't.
Potential fan - But won't that mean if I bet then even if I pick the best horse in the race that a jockey who cheats may cause his horse to beat the best horse if that jockey sticks to the rules?
Fan - Basically.
Potential fan - I think I'll stick to some other "sport" thanks.
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 15:51
^ Touch's on interval training !
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Jan 16 16:03
in todays race equivalent of beating up an old age pensioner  in the park
By:
halcyon days
When: 02 Jan 16 16:06
Not the greatest analogy, but, take your point !
By:
tony57
When: 02 Jan 16 16:12
some want to get a grip..the rules are a joke..jockeys are horsemen, if they hit the horse 15 times ..so be it..they have vets there to see if the horse is marked..if so..fine the jockey and ban him..this is what happens all over the world..only us in our stupid country could listen to the animal rights crowd and fall for this nonsense..the whips today are childsplay for these horses the 8 strike rule is a joke..
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Jan 16 16:16
heard that argument this morning from fitzy if there that light and a horse cant feel them,even more reason to get rid considering the ridiculous situation where getting where jocks riding within the rules are losing punters money in photo finishes, laughable in any other sport
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Jan 16 16:17
Nonsense. It is as much about fairness for racing enthusiasts. If one jockey wacks his horse 50 times and another 5 and the former wins by a neck then punters would have every right to be appalled.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Jan 16 16:21
Totally right 1st timer. They haven't a leg to stand on. It's either a licence for uncontrollable beasts to muller horses or if these nonsensical people making the opposite argument are right and they have no effect then no need to have them. You can't make an argument that they have little to no effect and yet see some jockeys flogging horses because clearly they think the whip has an affect.

This is the 21st century for goodness sake.
By:
tony57
When: 02 Jan 16 16:23
its not about how many times a horse is hit..the rule is stupid, some horse don't need the stick ..others do, as for getting rid of the whip well dream on.
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Jan 16 16:23
Not a universally popular view I'm sure but take the whip off people like McCoy and Johnson and they wouldn't have stood a chance against proper jockeys.
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Jan 16 16:25
wonder how far we are from connections of a horse at chelt,aintree,etc beaten in a photo by a jockey flouting the rules,launching an appeal against the result
By:
Eeternaloptimist
When: 02 Jan 16 16:26
Why do some horses need the stick Tony. What effect does it have on them?

Imagine it's the Olympics and they are on the last lap of the 10000 metres and everyone knows Mo is going to win. Then someone sets fire to the seconds ar5e. Does Mo still win?
By:
tony57
When: 02 Jan 16 16:26
total bull eo..why are we the only country to have the rule ffs..Ireland and france have no 8 strikes your out crap?..have you seen or held a whip?..i have ..half ton of animal will laugh at it ..im sorry you don't have a clue.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 02 Jan 16 16:27
Time was you could thrash a horse over the line without fear of punishment. Now you can only hit them a few times with what is apparently no firmer than a feather duster. Your 'dream on' assertion seems awfully bold in light of that.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 02 Jan 16 16:28
So you prefer the French Rules of Racing to the British version, Tony?
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Jan 16 16:30
you could argue that because the whips are so much lighter jocks are using them harder,higher and longer to get the same effect the old one,s got,i aint really bothered one way or another about the rules,but you cant carry on having jockeys breaking the rules and picking up the pot
By:
gutfeeling
When: 02 Jan 16 16:32
Imagine going back to connections saying "Another 2 slaps and we'd have won but I didn't want a ban", Good luck riding for them again.
The rules are a farce.
By:
tony57
When: 02 Jan 16 16:32
some horse need the whip for encouragement, or laziness..the whip does not hurt them, some are only moaning cos its there pocket talking..the rules is wrong simple, jockeys are horsemen who love horses..until the day a jockey comes out and says I don't need the whip..then people who don't do the job should stop talking crap
By:
tony57
When: 02 Jan 16 16:33
I never said I prefare the French rules?..i said the French and irish don't have a 8 strike rule?
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Jan 16 16:34
some jocks love horses no more than froome loves his bike or hamilton loves his car,in the past irish jockeys have covered half the stands with claret,you aint telling me they loved horses
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