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PennyPincher
23 Jul 15 11:50
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Used variable stakes in the past now doing level stakes (for ease) in shops with BOG the results I put up will be the returns I get in cash, I will be splitting bets between firms so there may be discrepancies in returns but I will always use actual returns for P&L

Bet 1
9 x £10 EW Doubles
Ennistown, Black Iceman, Trader Jack 3:15 W
Comicas, Dragon Mall, Kasseopia 6:15 D
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Report racing green October 22, 2015 8:48 PM BST
Probably all different degrees of punting ....as you say its the positive expectation on the place side that gives it traction and laying off the win side gives you that.
Report Facts October 22, 2015 11:42 PM BST
tommee    22 Oct 15 17:00 
fcuk sake
the guys in profit and your still having a go.
hes hit the crossbar the last few days as well.



' she'
Report thegiggilo October 23, 2015 1:47 AM BST
No form based picks horses making debuts,plus books always underprice these races now so unless you're doing the form how do you know you are getting anyvalue,it;'s just total nonsense.Twenty five years you'd be looking at 6s on shot and looking at the bigger prices and form in races in maidens and novices,those races you hardly ever see anymore and the 25/1 shots are now 8/1 shots.There's very little point in looking at these sort of races nowadays,obviously will be exceptions but to be doing cross doubles on a daily basis trying to find value and with the riosk of so many runners being taken out,it's completely futile..
Report Swardean October 23, 2015 2:07 AM BST
The giggalo, you are wrong.   With these bets, if you look at the betfair odds (true odds) compared to the bookies odds, your have a definite edge in the place market.   With an edge, you will have your ups and downs but long term (like a casino) you will win.

But the bookies are not stupid, they know this and if you are solely betting these events you will be stopped. So it is a battle of getting on rather than selections.
Report thegiggilo October 23, 2015 2:25 AM BST
Like I said if you can find them on form then fair enough,not like the bets on this thread the thieving bets are thing of the past,they were a 10x better bet 20+ years ago just so many factors now that make it impossible to win.
Report bigmart October 23, 2015 9:40 AM BST
she is a good poster leave her be to put up , very unlucky as facts stated
cant be ars---ed with people having a pop , lady luck has not been with her
good luck op with the thread !
Report kenco October 23, 2015 10:01 AM BST
Picking the first 3 in the betting with no reasoning doesn't mean you have an edge on the place side its just total guessing,infact if it weren't for the crazy winners that she's had in winning doubles the thread would be losing 1000s!
Report Facts October 23, 2015 12:41 PM BST
Crazy winners ?
Report kenco October 23, 2015 12:52 PM BST
6/1 winners in vaal first time out making win doubles
Report PennyPincher October 24, 2015 1:38 PM BST
Bet 98
Timingiseverything, Silken Thomas, End of Line, Bally Moon 2:05 W
Even Song, Nudge 1:45 L
8 x £15 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 24, 2015 1:39 PM BST
Bet 99
Timingiseverything, Silken Thomas, End of Line, Bally Moon 2:05 W
Oscar Blue, Major Ivan 4:15 K
8 x £15 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 24, 2015 1:43 PM BST
Bet 100 (Half Way)
Timingiseverything, Silken Thomas, End of Line, Bally Moon 2:05 W
Dhahmaan, Dream Destination, Above and Beyond, Explosive Power 2:00 D
16 x £10 EW Doubles
Report Facts October 24, 2015 2:30 PM BST
Ouch !
Report thegiggilo October 24, 2015 10:04 PM BST
Crazy bets you're doing in £230 before one's even run and you say they're for winning on the place side of bets,an impossibility presuming the 3 that head the market even place and everything went perfect you'd turn over a tiny profit.Would like to see the bets without the win doubles you've hit must be doing in thousands...
Report thegiggilo October 24, 2015 10:10 PM BST
Actually you're doing in £260 before a race has run,so you'd need a 30% profit on stake just to break even on the £840 staked today.The only way you're going to win on these bets is if you hit a lucky double with a couple of drifters,basically that's why you're level as you've had a few win doubles,won nothing on the place side of bets..
Report Evee October 25, 2015 1:11 AM BST
Hi PennyPincher,
I'd love to see a final breakdown of these bets once you're finished here.
Mainly, which race types produced the best results/least upsets.
It seems you are focussing on the market rather than the race type at the moment, so an analysis of which races the best results came from might be useful - Maidens v Conditions v Novices. UK v Ireland. Amateur v Apprentice v Non Conditional. High prize money events v Low. etc, etc.
Of course, 200-400 bets won't be enough data to prove anything, but it may give you a direction to explore further.
I wasn't able to maintain an edge in these bet types due to what I believe are nefarious practices by bookmakers (cutting a field from 16 to 15 in Handicaps, 8 to 7 or 5 to 4 runners in other races for example, which I can assure you happens more often than is statistically normal) and now I mainly concentrate on exploiting the inherent value in the PlacePot.
Good luck with the remainder of the trial and thanks for sharing the journey.
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:19 PM GMT
Bet 1 Stake £180 Returned £135 P&L -£45
Bet 2 Stake £180 Returned £365 P&L +£140
Bet 3 Stake £200 Returned £156 P&L +£96
Bet 4 Stake £200 Returned £252 P&L +£148
bet 5 Stake £180 Returned £211 P&L +£179
Bet 6 Stake £180 Returned £175 P&L +£174
Bet 7 Stake £240 Returned £288 P&L +£222
Bet 8 Stake £180 Returned £114 P&L +£156
Bet 9 Stake £180 Returned £194 P&L +£170
Bet 10 Stake £180 Returned £163 P&L +£153
Bet 11 Stake £180 Returned £475 P&L +£448
Bet 12 Stake £180 Returned £204 P&L +£472
Bet 13 Stake £180 Returned £193 P&L +£485
Bet 14 Stake £200 Returned £341 P&L +£626
Bet 15 Stake £180 Returned £208 P&L +£654
Bet 16 Stake £180 Returned £109 P&L +£583
Bet 17 Stake £240 Returned £471 P&L +£814
Bet 18 Stake £180 Returned £110 P&L +£744
Bet 19 stake £180 Returned £283 P&L +£847
Bet 20 stake £180 Returned £304 P&L +£971
Bet 21 stake £200 Returned £284 P&L +£1055
Bet 22 Stake £180 Returned £100 P&L +£975
Bet 23 Stake £180 Returned £199 P&L +£994
Bet 24 Stake £240 Returned £284 P&L +£1038
Bet 25 Stake £240 Returned £120 P&L +£918
Bet 26 Stake £240 Returned £515 P&L +£1193
Bet 27 Stake £180 Returned £128 P&L +£1141
Bet 28 Stake £240 Returned £222 P&L +£1123
Bet 29 Stake £180 Returned £115 P&L +£1058
Bet 30 Stake £240 Returned £111 P&L +£929
Bet 31 Stake £240 Returned £279 P&L +£968
Bet 32 Stake £240 Returned £158 P&L +£886
Bet 33 Stake £240 Returned £79  P&L +£725
Bet 34 Stake £240 Returned £175 P&L +£660
Bet 35 Stake £180 Returned £51  P&L +£531
Bet 36 Stake £180 Returned £53  P&L +£404
Bet 37 Stake £180 Returned £323 P&L +£547
Bet 38 Stake £240 Returned £473 P&L +£780
Bet 39 Stake £240 Returned £189 P&L +£729
Bet 40 Stake £480 Returned £690 P&L +£939
Bet 41 Stake £240 Returned £227 P&L +£926
Bet 42 Stake £240 Returned £176 P&L +£862
Bet 43 Stake £240 Returned £126 P&L +£748
Bet 44 Stake £240 Returned £54  P&L +£562
Bet 45 Stake £240 Returned £238 P&L +£560
Bet 46 Stake £240 Returned £225 P&L +£545
Bet 47 Stake £270 Returned £405 P&L +£680
Bet 48 Stake £240 Returned £98  P&L +£538
Bet 49 Stake £240 Returned £134 P&L +£432
Bet 50 Stake £240 Returned £219 P&L +£411
Bet 51 Stake £270 Returned £422 P&L +£563
Bet 52 Stake £240 Returned £132 P&L +£455
Bet 53 Stake £180 Returned £378 P&L +£653
Bet 54 Stake £240 Returned £269 P&L +£682
Bet 55 Stake £180 Returned £192 P&L +£694
Bet 56 Stake £180 Returned £226 P&L +£740
Bet 57 Stake £180 Returned £85  P&L +£645
Bet 58 Stake £180 Returned £411 P&L +£876
Bet 59 Stake £180 Returned £180 P&L +£876
Bet 60 Stake £120 Returned £71  P&L +£827
Bet 61 Stake £120 Returned £184 P&L +£891
Bet 62 Stake £180 Returned £248 P&L +£959
Bet 63 Stake £180 Returned £415 P&L +£1194
Bet 64 Stake £180 Returned £53  P&L +£1067
Bet 65 Stake £240 Returned £210 P&L +£1037
Bet 66 Stake £240 Returned £277 P&L +£1074
Bet 67 Stake £240 Returned £213 P&L +£1047
Bet 68 Stake £240 Returned £198 P&L +£1005
Bet 69 Stake £240 Returned £136 P&L +£901
Bet 70 Stake £180 Returned £244 P&L +£965
Bet 71 Stake £240 Returned £422 P&L +£1147
Bet 72 Stake £270 Returned £168 P&L +£1045
Bet 73 Stake £240 Returned £182 P&L +£987
Bet 74 Stake £360 Returned £402 P&L +£1029
Bet 75 Stake £60  Returned £176 P&L +£1145
Bet 76 Stake £240 Returned £39  P&L +£944
Bet 77 Stake £320 Returned £62  P&L +£686
Bet 78 Stake £270 Returned £282 P&L +£698
Bet 79 Stake £240 Returned £181 P&L +£639
Bet 80 Stake £240 Returned £283 P&L +£682
Bet 81 Stake £240 Returned £154 P&L +£596
Bet 82 Stake £180 Returned £104 P&L +£520
Bet 83 Stake £180 Returned £234 P&L +£574
Bet 84 Stake £240 Returned £699 P&L +£1033
Bet 85 Stake £240 Returned £416 P&L +£1209
Bet 86 Stake £240 Returned £232 P&L +£1201
Bet 87 Stake £240 Returned £164 P&L +£1125
Bet 88 Stake £240 Returned £114 P&L +£999
Bet 89 Stake £240 Returned £106 P&L +£865
Bet 90 Stake £240 Returned £344 P&L +£969
Bet 91 Stake £240 Returned £167 P&L +£896
Bet 92 Stake £360 Returned £210 P&L +£746
Bet 93 Stake £240 Returned £401 P&L +£907
Bet 94 Stake £240 Returned £000 P&L +£667
Bet 95 Stake £240 Returned £495 P&L +£922
Bet 96 Stake £270 Returned £401 P&L +£1053
Bet 97 Stake £240 Returned £000 P&L +£813
Bet 98 Stake £240 Returned £218 P&L +£791
Bet 99 Stake £240 Returned £103 P&L +£654
Bet 100 Stake £320 Returned £247 P&L +£581
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:25 PM GMT
Bet 101
Disko, Jetstream Jack, Archive, Mall Dini 1:30 G
Dramatic Event, Deputy Marshal, Solar Heat 3:05 G
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:26 PM GMT
Bet 102
Disko, Jetstream Jack, Archive, Mall Dini 1:30 G
Good Tradition, Jennies Jewel 4:05 G
8 x £15 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:28 PM GMT
Bet 103
Disko, Jetstream Jack, Archive, Mall Dini 1:30 G
Wade Harper, Marracudja, Bim Bam Boum 3:45 W
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:29 PM GMT
Bet 104
Wade Harper, Marracudja, Bim Bam Boum 3:45 W
Dramatic Event, Deputy Marshal, Solar Heat 3:05 G
9 x £15 EW Doubles
Report kenco October 25, 2015 12:51 PM GMT
How are you working these returns out you knocked out 260 on doubles before the bets even run the bottom bet only returns around £124 how many others are you working out wrong.
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:52 PM GMT
just a few responses:

Kenco: Picking the first 3 in the betting with no reasoning doesn't mean you have an edge on the place side its just total guessing,infact if it weren't for the crazy winners that she's had in winning doubles the thread would be losing 1000s

Crazy winners a 6/1 chance? What about the "crazy winners" that have cost £1000s 25/1 shots that are 70/1 on betfair? There are no such thing as Crazy Winners, these are just winners that occur less often.

Thegiggilo: Granted that these races were priced up more generously in the past but that doesnt mean there is no edge today. Regardless of amount of profit I have done two threads and both are well in profit and I for one wouldn't knock anyone who can turn a profit long term regardless of method.

I wish I hadn't said I would go to 200 bets now but I will keep to my word and carry on, who knows I may hit 5k before then and I can stop.

Evee: I don't have these records, I calculate a 'true odds' and then use Kelly to work out a staking plan, I don't do that on here because I work to roughly level stakes on this thread just as a demonstration. I think regardless of race type the results would be the same over time, but I have no proof either way.
Report PennyPincher October 25, 2015 12:59 PM GMT
Returns from the betting shop 4/7,12/1 & 11/2, 12/1
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 11:44 AM GMT
Bet 100 Balance b/fwd +£581
Bet 101 Stake £240 Returned £612 P&L +£953
Bet 102 Stake £240 Returned £703 P&L +£1416
Bet 103 Stake £240 Returned £580 P&L +£1756
Bet 104 Stake £270 Returned £531 P&L +£2017

I guess I had to hit one eventually
Report raspberrybottom October 26, 2015 11:58 AM GMT
That last post makes lovely reading, Penny!

Well done.Grin
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 12:18 PM GMT
Bet 105
Inada, Double Ws, Bennys Secret, Leading Score 1:40 A
Zaza Zest, Caltra Colleen, Rufford 1:20 L
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 12:19 PM GMT
Bet 106
Inada, Double Ws, Bennys Secret, Leading Score 1:40 A
Whistle Dixie, Snaidhm, Elusive Ivy 1:25 G
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 12:21 PM GMT
Bet 107
Soldier in Action, Long Call, Parliamentarian 2:05 R
Zaza Zest, Caltra Colleen, Rufford 1:20 L
9 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 12:21 PM GMT
Bet 108
Soldier in Action, Long Call, Parliamentarian 2:05 R
Whistle Dixie, Snaidhm, Elusive Ivy 1:25 G
9 x £10 EW Doubles
Report Greg_Gory October 26, 2015 12:22 PM GMT
these novice hurdles are going to boost your bank Wink
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 12:23 PM GMT
Bet 109
Fagan, Meet the Legend, Agentleman, My Simon 4:25 A
Inada, Double Ws, Bennys Secret, Leading Score 1:40 A
16 x £10 EW Doubles
Report Greg_Gory October 26, 2015 1:32 PM GMT
nice 8/1 winner
Report Paul Haigh - Total Respect October 26, 2015 3:45 PM GMT
I agree with the poster saying anyone who can turn a profit at this game deserves respect, but in reality can anyone actually place the suggested bets without breaking every bet down into 1 x £10 E/W doubles?

Can't believe any online firm will accommodate these bets.


Certainly not knocking the theory, but if anyone knows a firm that will accept bets such as these, please let me know.
Report Greg_Gory October 26, 2015 3:47 PM GMT
multis on here
Report PennyPincher October 26, 2015 4:50 PM GMT
Bet 100 Balance b/fwd +£581
Bet 101 Stake £240 Returned £612 P&L +£953
Bet 102 Stake £240 Returned £703 P&L +£1416
Bet 103 Stake £240 Returned £580 P&L +£1756
Bet 104 Stake £270 Returned £531 P&L +£2017
Bet 105 Stake £240 Returned £335 P&L +£2112
Bet 106 Stake £240 Returned £903 P&L +£2775
Bet 107 Stake £180 Returned £101 P&L +£2636
Bet 108 Stake £180 Returned £202 P&L +£2658
Bet 109 Stake £320 Returned £322 P&L +£2660
Report Swardean October 26, 2015 4:52 PM GMT
Nice one PP.   Target imminent !!
Report Rydal October 26, 2015 5:26 PM GMT
Good stuff!
Report s.kenbo October 26, 2015 5:29 PM GMT
The difference a few days can make. Well done.
Report onlooker October 26, 2015 5:31 PM GMT
Amazing how quickly the Totals are updated following a winner -

Yet - it took days, indeed over a week once, when on a losing returns run - with the answer - when queried ...

"I will update when I collect from the betting shops." Happy

PP must have had a quick trip around Manchester.
Report s.kenbo October 26, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
You cynic! Wink
Report Swardean October 26, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
I would say that is just human nature Onlooker.
Report onlooker October 26, 2015 5:42 PM GMT
Indeed, Swardean - I had been and checked for all the tyre skid marks outside the shops. Grin
Report Deltâ October 26, 2015 6:08 PM GMT
when the thread popped back to +500 ish a few days ago, there were skid marks!
Report Sica Dan October 26, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
Well done penny pincher but it looks like there are posters desperate
to see you lose.
Report checker October 26, 2015 7:02 PM GMT
Your right Dan,willing him to lose.
Report pete_de October 26, 2015 7:12 PM GMT
this is the one way you have a chance of a profit
as has been said not as good as a few years back
before they changed the way sp s are retuned .
must say after the last two days gord only knows
where the op will get her bets on tomorrow
Report roida October 26, 2015 8:36 PM GMT
tattoo will sort that out..
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:16 PM GMT
Bet 110
Arab Port, September Issue, Kyllukey, Alshaqee 1:00 L
Von Blucher, Ennaadd, Tetradrachm, Disobedience 1:30 L
16 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:17 PM GMT
Bet 111
Arab Port, September Issue, Kyllukey, Alshaqee 1:00 L
No More Heroes, Fine Article, Fair Return 3:25 P
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:19 PM GMT
Bet 112
Sizing John, Killer Crow, Mr Diablo 2:55 P
No More Heroes, Fine Article, Fair Return 3:25 P
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:20 PM GMT
Bet 113
Tycoon Prince, De Name Escapes Me, St Stephens Green, Joshua Lane 1.15 P
No More Heroes, Fine Article, Fair Return 3:25 P
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:21 PM GMT
Bet 114
Dont Touch, Double Scores, Bobarlee, Antimatter 4:25 P
No More Heroes, Fine Article, Fair Return 3:25 P
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:22 PM GMT
Bet 115
Von Blucher, Ennaadd, Tetradrachm, Disobedience 1:30 L
No More Heroes, Fine Article, Fair Return 3:25 P
12 x £10 EW Doubles
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 12:22 PM GMT
Bet 112 is 9 a £15 EW Doubles
Report dukeofpuke October 27, 2015 12:50 PM GMT
£1550 good luck getting that on at bog
Report Facts October 27, 2015 12:54 PM GMT
PennyPincher    24 Jul 15 16:03 
I put the bet on in two shops, the thing is they dont return much so they are fine been doing them for years.





£1550 in cash spread between 2 shops ? Sorry, don't believe it.
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
2 Shops????
Report roida October 27, 2015 1:58 PM GMT
screenshot of bets needed please..tar
Report swift-tuttle October 27, 2015 2:13 PM GMT
from 25 Oct 12:52 post

Evee: I don't have these records, I calculate a 'true odds' and then use Kelly to work out a staking plan, I don't do that on here because I work to roughly level stakes on this thread just as a demonstration. I think regardless of race type the results would be the same over time, but I have no proof
Report Arklearkle October 27, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
Ignore PP you put them up before races thats good enough
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 2:19 PM GMT
My word, first you want me to lose then if I win I dont win. I use kelly, I place the bets to different stakes I put on here. I will put a screen shot of a couple of bets if you like but this really is pathetic.
Report zipper October 27, 2015 2:24 PM GMT
penny pincher very well done  a nice profit.. re the boo boys they hate winners/ cause they are losers
you have to ride the abuse... been there done that ... keep it up  your good very good
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 2:29 PM GMT
dont know how to paste a copy on here
Report Arklearkle October 27, 2015 2:30 PM GMT
PP when they show screen shots of their bets BEFORE the races you can think about showing yours.
Report roida October 27, 2015 2:37 PM GMT
screen shot of ( . ) ( . )as well

tar
Report PennyPincher October 27, 2015 2:42 PM GMT
Idiot
Report swift-tuttle October 27, 2015 2:43 PM GMT
PP, speaking for myself, It's not a case of not wanting you to win. I'm completely neutral on that. What is of interest is whether you have found a system that actually shows profit long-term.

To really be conclusive about that, you have to go into the fine detail and assess all the pros and cons.
Report Facts October 27, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
Facts    27 Oct 15 12:54 
PennyPincher    24 Jul 15 16:03 
I put the bet on in two shops,
the thing is they dont return much so they are fine been doing them for years.




£1550 in cash spread between 2 shops ? Sorry, don't believe it.
PennyPincher    27 Oct 15 13:52 
2 Shops????



Why are you querying it ? It was your statement  !!,
Report BARNEY21. October 27, 2015 7:01 PM GMT
7.10 Cavalieri@6/1
     Brackenbrae@7/1
     Grey Inn@9/1

7.40 Threebagsue@6/1
     Firegate@3/1.

6ewdbls good luck all.
Report Greg_Gory October 27, 2015 9:29 PM GMT
back to the drawingboard barney boy Laugh
Report Greg_Gory October 27, 2015 9:29 PM GMT
PennyPincher 27 Oct 15 14:42 
Idiot



Laugh
Report PennyPincher October 28, 2015 10:14 AM GMT
I've decided to stop better things to do. Good Luck All (Well Most)
Report Sica Dan October 28, 2015 10:28 AM GMT
I don't blame you,its bad news for those of us who were following your progress
with interest.The bad guys have won again.
Good Luck PP
Report tommee October 28, 2015 10:34 AM GMT
Would like to see you continue Penny....but dont blame you for giving up.
Too many negative people on here.Angry
Report swift-tuttle October 28, 2015 10:37 AM GMT
that old chestnut -

is it better to be artificial and positive or
truthful and negative?
Report checker October 28, 2015 11:01 AM GMT
No reason to use this forum anymore, due to negative and petty response, from a few on here who think they are the dogs. So it's back to the usual rubbish.,it would have been interesting to see the outcome after 200 bets. Perhaps the gang of three/four can let us see there bets , as they seem to have all the answers.
Report Arklearkle October 28, 2015 11:42 AM GMT
PP I dont blame you but a pity. I had only started reading your thread and found it interesting.
Report Platinum October 28, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
I agree with checker.
Report knuckles October 28, 2015 3:00 PM GMT
shame need thick skin to post selections on here.
Report knuckles October 28, 2015 3:00 PM GMT
shame need thick skin to post selections on here.
Report s.kenbo October 28, 2015 3:14 PM GMT
What was the final profit?
Report zipper October 28, 2015 3:23 PM GMT
Good luck  penny   ni what ever you do  dont know why the
ankers drive the good guys off  this forum...
toss pots the lot of em.................................................
Report Greg_Gory October 28, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
PennyPincher 28 Oct 15 10:14 
I've decided to stop better things to do. Good Luck All (Well Most)


this is the best thing you could do,trust me.Keep it to yourself and good luck Wink
Report Greg_Gory October 28, 2015 3:38 PM GMT
Everyone on here knows what to do anyway and swift-tuttle has also given a good tip

So you have nothing to prove,its the lurkers you have to watch Scared da na na naaaaaaaa  Scared

Laugh
Report onlooker October 28, 2015 3:49 PM GMT
Greg_Gory 28 Oct 15 15:27 

Keep it to yourself
--------------

What's new?  Happy

This was the bet over 40 years ago - when the SPs of the, potential, Place horses was NOT shortened - as is the case nowadays.

- and Bookies paid 1/4 the odds ALL races - not just handicaps - AND even when the FAV started ODDS ON
Report Greg_Gory October 28, 2015 4:00 PM GMT
saying nowt hic Grin

nov to feb  Happy
Report checker October 28, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
Last update £2660 after 3months
Report thegiggilo October 29, 2015 12:12 AM GMT
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2cNGfnNk0z0/SUwjvIxcJLI/AAAAAAAAAAs/0cOWuT15-ss/s200/GreenWheelBarrowCash.jpg

Got this lot on at BOG this morning..Cool
Report Facts October 29, 2015 1:53 PM GMT
Laugh
Report Platinum October 29, 2015 2:09 PM GMT
Another good poster hounded off this pathetic forum.
Report sofiakenny October 29, 2015 2:37 PM GMT
platinum..your blog on false priced favs was quite superb.I salute you sir.
Report tommee November 1, 2015 5:00 PM GMT
great thread
pity the bully boys won againSad
i see one of thems on another thread justifyng himself
Report s.kenbo November 1, 2015 5:32 PM GMT
This "bully boy" talk is utter nonsense. I feel as though half the posters on this forum suffer from some kind of nervous disposition with the amount of times "bully" is thrown around. If you're not capable of sticking up for yourself, or completely ignoring any detractors then perhaps posting on adult forums isn't for you.

This isn't aimed at Penny, it's more aimed at the people who get offended on her behalf, which I find fairly patronising tbh.
Report Greg_Gory November 1, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
he says he'll have you out after school Laugh
Report s.kenbo November 1, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
That's alright, I'll bring a few older boys with me! Laugh
Report knuckles November 1, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
well said kenbo. knight commanders thread has survived and am sure a backing thread would too with the right strong minded posters.
Report topshot November 1, 2015 6:47 PM GMT
This was the only thread I would come on here to read and enjoyed the updates fromPP win or lose...such a shame that another good thread has come to an end and an even bigger shame that another poster has been lost on this forum
Report s.kenbo November 1, 2015 7:43 PM GMT
I agree it was a good thread. There's not many of them on here that still show a good profit after three months.

Knuckles. Cool
Report deadbrain59 November 2, 2015 6:32 AM GMT
keep it going.Happy
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