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bix
08 Apr 14 12:40
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Anyone know anything about this laying system?
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Report Greg_Gory April 8, 2014 12:58 PM BST
yes
Report posy April 8, 2014 1:08 PM BST
me too ;i used it a few years ago but didn't like the staking pressure after 5/6 consecutive losers.
Report Greg_Gory April 8, 2014 1:19 PM BST
my pdf version is 2008 Shocked
Report bix April 8, 2014 3:19 PM BST
posy

i thought it was a level stakes system.
Report posy April 8, 2014 3:49 PM BST
bix...my early version little acorns system works on the fib staking system 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 etc...i remember once having to lay Denman at £130 having started with laying at £10. Luckily he was beaten that day but if he'd won i'd have had to lay the next qualifier £210.

Also you become paranoid about missing a qualifier (if you do the horse inevitably loses !)...not for me,but if you go for it would be interested to hear how you get on.
Report seaview April 8, 2014 3:57 PM BST
Just the Fibonacci

http://www.maths.surrey.ac.uk/hosted-sites/R.Knott/Fibonacci/fib.html
Report brassneck April 8, 2014 4:03 PM BST
IT suppose to work on draws on football,the fibonacci system
Report ged April 8, 2014 4:04 PM BST
It works on sunflowers.
Report brassneck April 8, 2014 4:06 PM BST
do the Brassneck system,lay odds on football teams playing away from home,and watch your available to bet balance go up like a petrol pump clock.Cool
Report bix April 8, 2014 6:59 PM BST
If it relies on Fibonacci I think I'll give it a rest but the advert definetly says there is no stress at any time and it has been profitable every year since 2002.
Report Greg_Gory April 8, 2014 7:15 PM BST
you look at favs priced between 1.5 and 2.0 with a gap to 2nd fav of 6.0,with 3rd fav 10.0 or below.
Report SPOT THE DOG April 8, 2014 9:09 PM BST
Increase your betting stake in a way that follows the Fibonacci sequence: 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21 etc.
Report bix April 9, 2014 8:57 AM BST
I must admit I have no intention of buying this system. It's just that the advertising intrigued me with it's promise of stress free profits. A losing run while following the Fibonacci sequence would hardly be stress free but it did also claim level stakes profits. I would imagine the problem may be that in practice it is impractical and requires a big time committment.
There is also the very basic issue with anyone selling a winning system. After all if you have a steady tax free income stream from the system why go into business selling it with all the complications and pressures of income tax, vat, staff and overheads etc.
Report brassneck April 9, 2014 11:53 AM BST
There are loads of winning systems on gambling,they break down because people have the wrong staking plan.Sit down ,have a cup of tea,and think of your bank balance,then work out your own staking plan to suit your balance.
Report bix April 9, 2014 11:58 AM BST
For me a system has to make a profit on level stakes. The size of the bank and percentage used per bet is not a problem but I wont get involved in retrieval staking.
Report brassneck April 9, 2014 12:07 PM BST
right,pick a striker that scores a goal on a regular basis, and work out a staking plan,spurs dont win every game,work out your staking plan,mc coy dosent win every race he rides in,work out a staking plan,trap 1 wont win every dog race,like its not rocket science to get a winning system,its the matamatics  of how much you place or lay until you arrive at a winner.its not hard to work out you own strike rate at getting winners.all you have to do is focus on how much you ris****il the winner comes in.
Report deadbrain59 April 9, 2014 2:04 PM BST
20 bets ,profit, double stake next 20,profit double the double stake,next 20 profit and so on,then comes the point betfair charges u 40 per cent commission?MischiefMischief
Report deadbrain59 April 9, 2014 2:06 PM BST
greg gory ,nearly @ holy grail but not quite, tweaking to do gl db.PlainPlain
Report Greg_Gory April 9, 2014 2:09 PM BST
Laugh I dont follow that cr@p,mines much easier Wink
Report deadbrain59 April 9, 2014 2:37 PM BST
i will look @ that with interest.Mischief
Report deadbrain59 April 9, 2014 2:41 PM BST
so u fancy grasped gg.MischiefMischief
Report deadbrain59 April 9, 2014 3:05 PM BST
brassneck, i like that one,bayhern@ man u.GrinGrin
Report bix April 10, 2014 8:18 AM BST
Little Acorns sounds a bit like a laying version of the Dawson System which must be the most successfuly advertised racing system of all time.
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 10:47 AM BST
Dawson used Speed Plus in the old,Sporting Chronicle Shocked
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 11:18 AM BST
i like laying the fav, going to post very keen,1 per cent lay,in running pulling,1 per cent of bank.hanagan rode an odds on @ ponte,for hamdan,1,78,,keen to post,keen in running, took the lead 4 out,went 3 lengh clear,joined at 1 and half out ,faded.GrinHappyHappy
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 11:53 AM BST
BRASSNECK,what a stonker,belgium v germany,u19. germany 1.16,belgium won 1-0..GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrinHappyHappyHappyHappyHappyHappyHappyHappyHappyLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughWinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWinkWink
Report bix April 10, 2014 12:33 PM BST
The Dawson system could have used any selection method as it was only the retrieval staking system which made it work in theory. Brilliant advertising though every week in the old Handicap Book.
Times have changed!
Report RC919 April 10, 2014 2:35 PM BST
Brassneck seems crazy!!
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 3:29 PM BST
playlaya,was a gimmee in running,not at the races.Grin
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 3:47 PM BST
and a steamer Wink
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 3:48 PM BST
wdgg.
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 3:50 PM BST
ewe know the sheep in the pen Laugh
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 3:57 PM BST
mastiffs just about right.
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 4:15 PM BST
might lay purple bay in runn, if in back5.Mischief
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 4:29 PM BST
gl db hope you win plenty Grin
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 4:30 PM BST
hurricane sky,didnt make it from last position, scary though.Tongue Out
Report Greg_Gory April 10, 2014 4:55 PM BST
wd odds on ir Shocked
Report deadbrain59 April 10, 2014 4:55 PM BST
Scared
Report doridoru September 8, 2015 11:44 AM BST
So is this system actually that good...nothing but praise everywhere, are we all gonna be rich then!?!
Report posy September 8, 2015 12:11 PM BST
I tried it a few years ago and was very disciplined about placing bets;don't think I lost whilst trying it however didn't make much either and the real downside is coping with even modest losing runs as stakes are ramped up quickly. As someone mentioned earlier in the thread it's basically a stake retrieval system. Try it and let us know what you think
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