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By:
kavvie
When: 21 Mar 14 22:05
BEtd4q
By:
StarRage
When: 21 Mar 14 22:09
a debt is a debt - pay up and play on
By:
rcing
When: 21 Mar 14 22:09
pay up , or else they will send round Fat Tony and Jonny Tightlips to collect it
By:
Oh no!! not another Villa fan
When: 21 Mar 14 22:11
**** em and leave for the purple site.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 22:16
star rage......I agree with you about the debt is a debt bit.....but im having great difficulty seeing this as a debt......I feel like I have been stolen from here......when I joined this site.....this premium rubbish was never even mentioned......losing all my life and when I go on a bit of a run.....they want to charge me some sort of winners tax.....
By:
StarRage
When: 21 Mar 14 22:21
understand pw but unless you can try and plea bargain a reduction it is still a legally enforceable debt and it's probably best just to take it on the chin and then rethink whether you want to stay with Betfair or move elsewhere. Maybe a chat with them can bring some sort of compromise. If you close your account you then have the worry of getting a bad credit rating which can be a lot worse than paying the money. Hope you get it sorted anyay
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 22:30
star rage.....it has nothing to do with a credit rating.......they don't give credit....nor have I looked for it even if it was available......they have in fact taken my money without my consent......id say that is a lot worse than any low credit rating issue.....
By:
StarRage
When: 21 Mar 14 22:40
no, i meant that if you don't pay they can then get a black mark against your credit rating, which can affect things like getting a loan, credit card, mortgage etc
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 22:42
I wonder can I get a black mark against their credit rating star rage......its more likely than them getting one against me.....
By:
halcyon days
When: 21 Mar 14 22:47
paulie well nuts thinks he knows more about the law than a PLC !     Laugh
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 22:50
halcyon.....this is not a smiley face thread.....run along with the other half wits please.....thanks in advance....
By:
Oh no!! not another Villa fan
When: 21 Mar 14 22:52
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Big Boss
When: 21 Mar 14 22:53
I suggest you start trading odds on footy teams Barca, Real Madrid, etc with the bookies to top up your commission
By:
ZEALOT
When: 21 Mar 14 22:54
Who gives a fk
By:
Big Boss
When: 21 Mar 14 22:54
back against them that is
By:
Oh no!! not another Villa fan
When: 21 Mar 14 23:02
Zealot, dont really give a **** about anything.

GrinGrinGrinGrinGrin
By:
sixtwosix
When: 21 Mar 14 23:05
Is this a thinly veiled look at how much I am winning thread ....

Give them the grand , you must still have a quarter of a million profit.
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 23:06
zealot.....you should give  a fukk.....I was like you.....I never won in all my life.....never even knew this winners tax existed.....then go an a good run for 6 months.....and hey presto.....its this premium charge......
maybe next year zealot.....it could be your turn......you may not be a loser all yer life.....
By:
theonlywayforward
When: 21 Mar 14 23:07
To the op.
The exchange is a listed Identify  and a public company regulated by law .As you have agreed to their terms you are liable to pay.
Failing to pay will result in bf seeking a judgement which will be granted.Then that is passed to the sheriff who employs bailiffs.
After that it remains on the record as to whether to peruse bankruptcy if the assets seized did not cover the original amount plus the cost of court proceedings and the bailiffs charges .
Your situation is A. have you any assets and if so are they worth more than the debt.B can you use another identity to be able to carry out your day to day stuff.
By:
theonlywayforward
When: 21 Mar 14 23:11
If you do not have the funds seek a compromise as they will accommodate and if they do not seek arbitration.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 21 Mar 14 23:13
pay up and leave
no need to be on here unless you like slightly less mainstream markets or need to have 10k a pop on footie matches
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 23:15
sixtwosix.......ya really should know what yer talking about before ya open yer cakehole......ya don't have to win a quarter of a million to qualify for this winners tax......or anything like that figure for that matter......im not a professional punter.....or somebody acting with inside information......just an ordinary joe soap.....who struck a lucky patch.....as I said ive been losing for 30 years.....all my punting life.....
theonlywayforward.......I think you have been watching too many films......
By:
chavman
When: 21 Mar 14 23:18
pornos most likely
By:
Stevie Gerrard
When: 21 Mar 14 23:20
https://account.betfair.com/regpay-myaccount/premiumcharge/summary.html

Keep an eye on the betfair portal each week to see how close you are to paying it. Agree it is a disgrace
By:
Hushwing.
When: 21 Mar 14 23:22
grow a pair n start betting instead of 'girl's blouse' tradingWink
By:
sixtwosix
When: 21 Mar 14 23:23
Grin
By:
theonlywayforward
When: 21 Mar 14 23:23
That is the law .Its how it works .For sure you will find out.gl
By:
halcyon days
When: 21 Mar 14 23:24
The law doesn't apply to paulie well nuts.... he's a law onto himself !     Laugh
By:
chavman
When: 21 Mar 14 23:27
if cross dressing was a crime hal youd have a record as long as your dress
By:
theonlywayforward
When: 21 Mar 14 23:27
Whatever as it will not go away and the amount is enough to peruse.
By:
ZEALOT
When: 21 Mar 14 23:27
paulie ExcitedExcitedExcited
By:
halcyon days
When: 21 Mar 14 23:35
chavman for a bloke (sic), who thinks he's straight you seem to too know a lot about trans gendering !!!!



You *unt ! Laugh
By:
paulie wallnuts
When: 21 Mar 14 23:42
Thanks for the advice everybody......I have made up my mind now......I am going to do what anybody with a quarter of a brain would do in these circumstances.......thanks to ye all......
By:
pa lapsy
When: 22 Mar 14 00:55
Have a good night Paulie,put something on the end of it.
By:
spyker
When: 22 Mar 14 00:59
it is still a legally enforceable debt

Is it? I'm not arguing as I'm no legal eagle but has it been tested and what would it be classed as being for exactly - what does one get in return for paying it? What i mean is, is it a subscription fee, a membership fee, a legally enforceable tax - i.e what do you get for your money that incurs a debt - 'It's a fee on being a successful gambler m'lud' sounds odd to me! It's not a set amount each week and I'm not sure how easy it is to work out - all I'm saying is that if it hasn't already been tested and i got walloped and could afford the legal fees I'd be tempted to see what my chances were!
Feel free to put me right anyone!
By:
Blackwater
When: 22 Mar 14 01:03
I had a winning bet with them last week and am having a b1tch of a time getting paid out on it.

During the week I asked for a copy of their complaints policy but still haven't received it, even though 'it's the law' that they must have one and make it available to customers.

When it suits them, Betfair are hard enough to deal with.

They are making me jump through hoops to get paid. If I were in your position, I'd happily make them do the same.
By:
loper
When: 22 Mar 14 11:37
The lifetime premium charge was introduced retrospectively, thus giving customers who had been with Betfair for years no warning that they would soon be liable to pay it.

If they had drawn a line in the sand and said if you win 250k from the introduction of the charge you would be liable that is fair enough. But to back date a surcharge, now I'm not sure whether that is legal. Its certainly immoral.

Perhaps someone might make a legal challenge and see if Betfair can justify their dubious legal position in court?
By:
HonkyJoe
When: 22 Mar 14 11:49
How exactly can BF legally enforce the PC? If you take on a mortgage or credit card, the bank has to go to great lengths to make sure you're fully aware of your commitments. And the charges and payments need to be clearly explained. The interest rate might change, but otherwise, you should know exactly where you are with regards to making payments.

With BF, on the other hand, there's absolutely no clarity with regards to PC. At some point, they decide you ought to be charged a certain amount. Now, I don't see how that can amount to a debt that they can then legally enforce.  (And the retrospective PC payments, where you're expected to surrender half of all your winnings once you reach 250K most definitely aren't enforceable.)

The PC is really a fee for continuing to bet with BF. They're within their rights to withhold the BF service from you if you don't pay up, so if you want to stick with BF, you have to put up with it. However, I wouldn't be sure they can enforce the PC, if you're prepared to walk away.
By:
racingstar
When: 22 Mar 14 11:51
PC was introduced a long time ago.
Nobody (apart from BF) like it.
If you owe you should not even ask the question.
A man without honour is not a man,imo.
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