Ten from the past for fun

Hillman Imp

Had to google Hillman Imp to see what it was.
That is a beauty

A F Budge sprinter in mid-division

one or two flat caps evident.north of the trent maybe ?

First pic - its not Donny is it (parade ring would have had to have moved since then)

they were carp fawwon.aluminium engine

huntingdon right handed,not yarmouth,no houses near fakenham,possibly thirsk .

Can't be Catterick either - its fields across the road behind the stands

teeside pk maybe

I know it's not Yarmouth now, but if you took a photo from the inside of the course there near the line, you would see houses behind the stands at the furlong marker

2nd Racecourse PHOTO

Houses on a road, running along rear of Stands .

REDCAR?

OI OI DEFFO EARLY 80'S HAYDOCK CERTAINTY OI OI

NEVER Haydock  - NO houses ANYWHERE that near to Stands at Haydock.

^2ND PIC

doing my head in tbh

EARLY 80'S HAYDOCK SILVER RING,LOOK AT THAT WOMAN GOING THRU THAT BLOKES POCKETS

SMACK BEHIND THE WINNER

Thirsk

What about Ayr as a runner for the 2nd pic?

colours of a Jarvis trained sprinter fawwon?

Another thought on the first one....Folkestone?

In fact, i'm nailing my colours to the mast of whoever it was who said Hamilton Park. Final answer

DG

Google Thirsk racecourse, click on images, picture of grandstand on second row.

^first pic

changed my mind 2nd pic is catterick silver ring,can even see camber

First one Hamilton, second Thirsk, both stands now demolished

no houses at catterick folkestone right handed,

I reckon tommysmum has it.

2nd pic i can now see Thirsk deff,high numbers best well done tommysmum. got the grey cell going fawwon v.good

Excellent work, with that black and white photo of thirsk racecourse on google tommysmum.
Can cleary see it is that horrendous looking stand.
Thanks all.

Not much stuff to dig out of the loft anymore.

2nd pic could be redcar although still leaning towards thirsk.

Feb 13, 2013 -- 9:22PM, durose13 wrote:

10 thirsk

tar

You could post yer Holiday Snaps, fawwon ......

Which Beach is this ?


1. LAYTOWN

2. SOUTHWELL

both pics Thirsk then

We saying #10 is Thirsk as well?
I thought we had nailed it down to Hamilton(well tacked it down)?

Leaves on the trees in the first pic, not a leaf in sight on the 2nd

yes nobody in Scotland wore Puma trainers in the 80's

evening fawwon,

just to back up what the others were saying about the 2nd pic showing the finish, the track layout with the houses in the background looks from aerial photos to be only one of 3, redcar, thirsk or at a push doncaster

the best fit looks like thirsk as mentioned by tommy

the colours are the same as your nott picture, at first i thought it was the same horse as both had diamond blazes but the 2nd animal has one white sock, could your man have been following an owner or trainer?

10 is hamilton.defo

ok then 1.Hamilton , 2.Thirsk.

if anyone can track down a copy i'm using collins racecourses, has aerial photos & mapping from about 10 years ago, good reference book for any fan if you can find it

yea.2nd could be thirsk but the houses seem unfamiliar and close.

The back of the Hamilton grandstand in number 10, can be found by google search images. I think either they left the back up or copied it when the new stand was put up, since your picture was taken.

M.Tebbutt on the winner

So - We are now looking for the Winner of a Sprint race at Thirk -
- Drawn High - Light Blue colours -  with Dark Blue Epaulettes, or 'V' ......

- when Hillman Imp's were in vogue.

Should be easy.

Second one is Thirsk for my money. If you get the aerial view up, you can see the houses - there's a couple, then a gap for the road, then another row of half a dozen.

obviously

^onlooker

durose is very good


Please don't mention names onlooker

just tekkin dog round block he wants a shyte,hope sorted for when i get back

Durose is not very good btw,Google Earth shows a large steaming pile just inside the door.

dog fekkin constipated and so am i, well don fawwon

Are the colours of the winner those of David Sullivan (Roldvale)?

no ged, are they Mr Galbraith colours fawwon?

Is the horse the Dick Peacock trained Fearless Lad? havent slept all night doing my nebber in fawwon.

Durose - I can only recall one horse trained by Ray Peacock and that was Rushmoor in the 80's...quite a decent hurdler.

Peacock had Man Alive too for a while.

Not the same man, Navel. Dick trained in Middleham, and was son of Matt (who trained dante), who in turn was son of Dobson Peacock (used to be a race named after him, at newcastle I think. Dick still has one named after him at Thirsk).  They all trained from the same stables in Middleham. Ray Peacock is still around, and trains in Worcs? Dick died in the 1980s.

ged

do you know if any reighning champion hurdler had ever run at doncaster other than rock on ruby ?

jimnast - I don't know, but I'd be surprised if there hasn't been another one. Sea Pigeon ran at Beverley, Hamilton and Redcar as a reigning champion hurdler! - and may also have run at Doncaster? (But you were presumably meaning over hurdles)

yes over hurdles really,i was speaking to one of the locals at dony last week,they didnt know i said i would ask you when i caught up with you.

Birds Nest beat Sea Pigeon in a 3-horse race at Donny (the first time they met), but that was when the latter was with Gordon Richards, so well before his Champion days. GW ran him at the track several times. He won the Rossington Main there. (I know that's not answering your question!).

another once great midweek national hunt race the rossington main.

ged, and durose.

I have revised my opinion of the Colours to -

Light Blue - either Dark Blue or Maroon, or Dark Brown, even, BRACES  - and Cap
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durose - J Galbraith colours - were - Black and White Hoops, Light Blue Sleeves.

1991 MORLEY STREET,second in Doncaster Cup, 6 months after winning Champion Hurdle

onlooker is it Fearless Lad

thanks tommy i was really meaning over hurdles,whilst on the subject of morley street which classic winner did he beat at goodwood ?

durose - Nice try, but NO

G Soulsby colours were  - Royal Blue, White sash, and sleeves, Blue cap with White spots.

There were only 7 runners, too - when Fearless Lad won the Highflyer Stakes at Thirsk, in Sept 1981.

onlooker - those colours sound like the Rose Ravine colours (Smart/Jones), but obviously the wrong discipline.

Didn't Rose Ravine have red braces?

National Spirit gained his final win over hurdles at Doncaster, but he wasn't the Champion any more.

MICHELEZZO,I was at Uttoxeter that day and backed it in the Narbol course shop's, had about 5 or 6 slips with £30 or £40 EW at SP, think it was 10's, the manager screamed the place down when I went to draw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J6_L5X0c1U

I was wrong Ged...it was a red cap instead

NIGHT NURSE ran there over fences later in its career, and I'll bet SAUCY KIT ran at Donny after the Champion.

Was there day Night Nurse ran in the Mansion House hcap chase @ Donny same day as Grt Yorkshire & Brewers Hurdle.

tommy those narbol managers did not like you winning ,you would have thought it was there money

onlooker put me out of my misery plz

I honestly do not know - durose.

Two ways of. possibly, finding out

1 a} - We are able to establish whose colours they are - NOT easy -
But then need to find what horses he owned - and when, of course

1 b) - The runner-up is a Grey - carrying  either Black, or Brown, body with Pink, or possibly White,  sleeves.

2) - I wade through every Sprint race Result - including 2-yr-old races,and 3-yr-old Maidens - since around 1968 to 1978 ..... to find a wide-margin winner, with the runner-up clear of the others ....

But, then - just how FAR is this Photo from the WINNING LINE?

chesnut spotty cap are they Favourite Girl owners colours.AF Budge def got one in

i would say the winner is just approaching final furlong because that stand is "Third Ring".

Think  this is from before Budge's time.

Budge had a Red and Yellow Quartered Cap - This may just be a Red Cap
Red Epaulettes on Shoulders, too - for Budge.

1968 to 1978 that early then

Going off the cars in the background.

Also don't think that the Jockeys are wearing Helmets.

no helmets.are you extracting the urine

{b] Some COLOURS to consider[/b[ ...

Bearing in mind the QUALITY of COLOUR Photography from that time - compared to today.

I have ZOOMED Up the Picture, as best I could - and am still not sure whether the Colours on the SECOND (Grey) horse have SPOTS on the Cap - OR, it is just the Silk TIE RIBBON at the Front, and Central Cap BUTTON on the top  - as I do not think that the Jockeys are wearing Helmets.
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For those who may concur ....

- and can, consequently, come up with Trainers for these Owners - or, better still, Horses that they owned ....

LEADING Chestnut Horse.

Mrs G M WRIGHT = LIGHT BLUE - Black Epaulettes - Black Cap

Mr RICARD OHHSTROM = LIGHT BLUE, Black Stripes - Light Blue Sleeves - Black Cap

F J T PARSONS = LIGHT BLUE, Dark Blue Stripes - Light Blue Sleeves - Dark Blue Cap
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The Grey Horse in second Place

Miss J ROBSON = Black - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap

Mrs M TENNENT = Purple - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap

Mrs J R ROBERTS = Black - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap, Black Spots.

Mr A P PERRY = Green, Pink Cross-Belts - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap

Mr H SCHEFTEL = PINK, Black Sash - Pink Sleeves - Pink Cap, Black Spots

A J (Sandy) STRUTHERS = Grey - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap, Grey Spots

Mrs S TERRY = Green, Pink Spots - PINK Sleeves - Pink Cap

Mr L WAINHOUSE = PINK, Black Cross-Belts - PINK Sleeves - White Cap.
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Of course, these will not necessarily be the only (possible) Colours being raced at that time .... whenever it was.

onlooker,take my helmet off to you good work,another sleepless night tho

onlooker,did Wright Ohhstrom pARSONS have horses with Peacock around then?

I will try and check - The Ohhstrom 'link' rings a bell - from somewhere..

I am also  wondering if Parsons is the father, or Uncle, of Jim Parsons - who had those 'Superior' named horse with Fahey, recently.

Jim's colours, though, are - White, Black Star.

fawwon -

Just checking, a long-shot, son.

There isn't a DATE STAMP on the BACK of the PHOTO - is there?

Photographers had a habit of doing that.

They do look very much like the Budge colours back in the pack. I think the epaulettes are there. The cap does look all red, but hard to be sure. It also has a noseband, some size, and looks like it's a typical Jimmy Fitz horse not being asked for everything on the day!

No leaves on the trees. Must be Oct/Nov?

Could the horse wide right be Hallgate? I think they're his colours.

sangster horse in front of the budge horse?

ged - re: "Looks like the Budge colours"

Interesting that you mention Fitzgerald as -

Tim Kilroe - of Jimmy Fitz Forgive N'Forget fame/ownership - had colours almost identical to Budge.

Budge had Red Epaulettes - with a  Red & Yellow QUARTERED Cap .....

Kilroe had a Red SPOTS - with a RED Cap.

I favour the Kilroe colours, in this Photo.

That horse on the outside does have colours similar to Hallgate. Hippodrome racing ( Andy Geraghty) had a few in training which I'm sure was no earlier than 82 or 83. However, what makes me think this is the 70's is the colours worn by the crowd. When we got to 82,83,84, people were commonly wearing bright coloured clothes with those two tone jackets being popular.And as this is the Silver Ring in the background, with no dress code, there would have been some flashy colours to be seen if this was as late as 82,83+  My Saturday evenings are so exciting LOL

On further thought, I don't think it can be Hallgate as I can't see him being beaten that far in a late season race at Thirsk, as he was classy as a 2yo.

I still think it's those colours though, despite vl's Sat night astute social observations.

Has Thirsk ever raced in Oct/Nov? Perhaps not. I guess late Sept then.

Thirsk got the november handicap the year the leger meeting was abandoned.

1989.