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Any first hand knowledge of which courses are raceable/unraceable. Towcester raceable today but with what effect re: Boxing Day ?
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Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 1:46 PM GMT
just had a bit of 1/2 ; 2/7 and 1/4 based on ribby and intheknows comments ~ hope they know what they r talking about 4 a changeLove
Report THETRUTHHURTS December 24, 2012 1:50 PM GMT
O DEARSadSadCryCry
Report judorick December 24, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
be a shame to lose the Rowland Merrick
Report intheknow December 24, 2012 1:54 PM GMT
Goodwill to all men eh?

Merry Xmas to you too rlyl
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
when it is abandoned I will treat u to a capri sun and a mars bar out of the winnings Cool
Report democrat December 24, 2012 1:59 PM GMT
What's you plan B adge if Wetherby succumbs ? I hope you are keeping your 'rep' informed given the prospect of a wasted journey from Rugby under his alter ego !!!!
Report 1st time poster December 24, 2012 2:04 PM GMT
is that right chepstows national meeting has gone transfered to january
Report intheknow December 24, 2012 2:05 PM GMT
correct, sat Jan 5th the new date
Report 1st time poster December 24, 2012 2:06 PM GMT
sorry didnt see the other thread Cry
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 2:08 PM GMT
r u sure ~ my executive diary I was given by an extremely generous and well respected punter does not have a chepstow fixture on sat 5/1/13Blush
Report allpoints December 24, 2012 2:20 PM GMT
Come on rlyl,
You're diary is probably correct as also in the Racing Post pull out Chepstow is not down for that date,however on Chepstow site they are saying they are in talks with Channel four for coverage on that date.Keep up boy.
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 2:31 PM GMT
cor ~ and how many more mistakes are there in this diary ~ there were 153 in this years injured jockeys diary ~ will there be as many ?Sad
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 2:32 PM GMT
1.38 available for sedgefield to be on ~ back or lay ally ?
Report intheknow December 24, 2012 2:36 PM GMT
you should be ashamed for posting that 1.38 is available when it's only for £2 Grin
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 24, 2012 2:41 PM GMT
= 76 pence profit which pays 4 your mars bar ~ I have taken it to avoid further embarrassment
Report intheknow December 24, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
no wonder you live in Ledston Towers
Report allpoints December 24, 2012 2:59 PM GMT
Sedgefield are very confident & so far today the bit of rain we've had,a gnat could have pissed more.
It WILL be on.
Report judorick December 24, 2012 3:00 PM GMT
Wetherby won't be though, right?

Cry
Report allpoints December 24, 2012 3:12 PM GMT
ribero has got to be the man to pass judgement there but as he's so pessimistic all the time if he says it will be off I still wouldn't give up hope.
Report judorick December 24, 2012 3:26 PM GMT
CrazyLaugh
Report adge December 24, 2012 4:13 PM GMT
democrat ,
it seems i won't be deciding until boxing day morning whether i head for wetherby or market rasen or even have a choice.
and yes that certainly puts roger's carefully laid plans up in smoke.
Report democrat December 24, 2012 5:35 PM GMT
You are very lucky adge that you are located slap in the middle of your two choices. Have a good one - rgards to Bob.
Report adge December 24, 2012 7:04 PM GMT
same to you ,
all the best
Report AndersLassen December 24, 2012 7:30 PM GMT
I live 9 miles from the Course (Wetherby). We have had light but steady rain all day. It's currently NOT raining but there is more forecast for tonight. Happy Christmas to one and all!

PS.. Tell Roger to stay at home Alan. Give the rest of us a chance!  Grin
Report johnnywilkinson December 24, 2012 7:43 PM GMT
theres a guy who best outside at uttoxeter and is capable of betting on his own to 96% and then other bookmakers such as adge whos on a pitch commmmitte looking after peoples intrests (i know u couldnt make it up)makes him rep to go out and screw it upo for others ....the word **** comes to mind
Report AndersLassen December 24, 2012 8:04 PM GMT
'Pleb' Pat?  Grin
Report adge December 24, 2012 8:10 PM GMT
yes , he makes a damn good living out of the game , too , johnny , when many can't it seems.
maybe the secret that we can learn from is that roger never logs in to any exchange and never ever has a back bet
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 8:15 PM GMT
So you are saying adge he doesn't have access to any prices at all?,no floorman and just puts what he feels like up?
Report adge December 24, 2012 8:21 PM GMT
no , ribero1 , he monitors betfair but never logs in
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 8:25 PM GMT
Cheers,not quite the genius you portrayed but credit to him anyway.
Report adge December 24, 2012 8:31 PM GMT
i do know he stood one for 27k on a friday night at newmarket this summer so i'm not surprised that johnny has difficulties betting next to him
Report Racecourse Regular December 24, 2012 8:32 PM GMT
couldn't anyone with his bankroll?
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 8:33 PM GMT
Was it odds on?
Report Racecourse Regular December 24, 2012 8:34 PM GMT
lol i wouldn't have thought so more likely to be the other end of the book
Report democrat December 24, 2012 8:37 PM GMT
Roger goes with all or most of the favs claiming that 16/1 shots and bigger never win. On occasions a perspective that proves to be very expensive. Not sure how you 'monitor' adge without 'logging in' but I admit to still learning. Not keen to learn how Roger 'does it' though since my nerve is not that strong !
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 8:39 PM GMT
Don't worry rr,i should have added a smiley,so he walks around with 27k in readies as well.
Report Racecourse Regular December 24, 2012 8:44 PM GMT
and a specially ordered cheque book from HSBC containing more cheques than a standard cheque book
Report johnnywilkinson December 24, 2012 8:54 PM GMT
so now heres a guy that supposedly carries 27k around with him ,you take it all very much seroiusly then adge as regards crime advertising on here theres a guy that can be at a night meeeting at newmarket with 27 k in his pockets ,it has to be caus eya admitting he aint playing on the exchange...........social responsibilty comes to mind
Report Barnie December 24, 2012 9:07 PM GMT
another little word springs to mind    JEALOUS   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report THETRUTHHURTS December 24, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
HE ALSO CARRIES A UZI 9MM,GLOCK,AND WALTHER PX,NEVER WORRIES ABOUT ANY BOTHER PLUS THE TRUSTY 12 BORE IN THE BOOTHappy
Report THETRUTHHURTS December 24, 2012 9:09 PM GMT
HE ALSO HAS A HATRED OF COMMISSION AGENTS,DONT KNOW WHYBlush
Report adge December 24, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
when you have alot of friends as roger does you don't need much cash, a cheque book is handy though.
and he has never repped for me at uttoxeter although he could as i've a top ten pitch and don't attend that much
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 9:26 PM GMT
Anybody for whatever reason who doesn't feed the unlicensed,untaxed layers on here is a star in my book.
Report andyl December 24, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
thought every big winner on here got taxed ribero1, don;t bookies just pay their exes and get virtually pcharge/commission free on bf??
Report ribero1 December 24, 2012 10:10 PM GMT
the big winners on here pay tax to the revenue then?Sorry didn't realise that,btw i have no prob with anyone doing whatever on here,my only beef is that we should be hedging in our own market place not feeding a rival and most on course books with any ability would be better off,and yes i'm guilty myself from time to time at the moment but would be happy to stop tomorrow if we could get some unity (never happen unfortunately)so cest la vie and night all,oh nearly fotgot its stopped raining in wetherby!
Report adge December 24, 2012 10:20 PM GMT
can we not talk about paying tax please
the revenue will be holding their hands out for another large wedge from me in january so lets enjoy the next week please
Report ribero1 December 25, 2012 8:05 AM GMT
it's raining!
Report quarry December 25, 2012 11:02 AM GMT
I'm at Wincanton tomorrow, how come most of the West Country is currently resembling Atlantis but Wincanton is so confident they haven't even an inspection planned.
Has Wincanton missed all this rain? It's currently torrential in Epsom at the moment!
Report Big_Issue December 25, 2012 11:12 AM GMT
Ffos Las must similarly be sat with their proverbial head up their @ss as well?
Report candobetter December 25, 2012 11:18 AM GMT
The only people who benefit from racing taking place under such awful conditions are as usual the bookmakers,courses are under so much pressure from them to race these days, they have total disregard for the welfare of the horses or their jockeys.I'm just half an hour from Kempton,it's been torrential rain on and off here since 1.00 this morning,it has to be waterlogged.At the end of the day it's up to connections to withdraw their horses if they consider conditions to be unsafe.From a punting point of view races run in such conditions are worthless
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:03 PM GMT
fontwell inspect at 8am boxing day,no problems they have said all week dispite the a 27 at chichester been closed due to flooding for most of the last few days.

i agree with quarry re wincanton.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:09 PM GMT
candobetter

how do you mean the only people who benefit from racing taking place are the bookmakers ?
Report quarry December 25, 2012 12:16 PM GMT
Anybody know how much it will cost me to get my car tractored out of the car park at Wincanton tomorrow around 5.00 pm?
Report ribero1 December 25, 2012 12:26 PM GMT
just like at haydock on saturday jimnast when the punters won 6-1.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:28 PM GMT
correct ribero some of these on here shouldnt be let loose.

gut feeling for wetherby ribero ?
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:30 PM GMT
quarry

i asked about wincanton car parking yesterday as it was my 2nd choice ,i spoke as a punter they suggested the park and ride at morrisons.

fontwell car parking will be a farce its bad enough after a bit of summer rain.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:36 PM GMT
cheltenham last saturday ribero 6/1 to the punters could have been 5/2 but could also have been 7/0 the result was 3rd in trained by paul nichols.
Report adge December 25, 2012 12:37 PM GMT
for all these smaller course boxing day is their onr big money spinner of the whole year the racecourses will do everything humanly possible to get racing on, and the packed grandstands and bars suggest the public appreciate that too.


but , as cando says , it's those greedy bookmakers. lol
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:37 PM GMT
and another thing the result at haydock saturday most of the punters went home saturated before the last with the bookmakers money.
Report quarry December 25, 2012 12:37 PM GMT
Thanks foxy but do they really expect everyone who doesn't drive a 4x4 to park in the local Morrison's??????
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:41 PM GMT
adge of course thats correct i do know in fontwells case they have been promoting boxing day for the last 12 months,even putting a mini fair in the middle they were expecting a big crowd, no matter what now the middle will be like glastonbury and the inspection willput of the walk ups,premier sold out a while ago but the walk ups will find other things now.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 12:43 PM GMT
quarry

i have given up on what racecourses expect anymore just look at the MUGGING fee.better known as the marketing fee.
Report ribero1 December 25, 2012 1:13 PM GMT
Been and had a look and looks much better jimnast could only see 1 small pool of standing water and rlyl tells me that jonjo sanderson has tweeted saying the track is raceable and its not raining at the moment so things look surprisingly goo although going on from the theme of a bookies benefit in the mud i'm fairly sure that wetherby like several other cards won't be as competitive as usual down to the ground.
back later going to fight my way through the once a year crowd at my local for the last half hour.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 1:22 PM GMT
thanks ribero enjoy your pint.
Report turnip turns December 25, 2012 1:26 PM GMT
Had another downpour this morning ,fontwell must be touch and go imo.
Report acey deucy December 25, 2012 1:30 PM GMT
King George to be run on heavy ground after more rain,GROUND conditions at Kempton deteriorated to 'heavy' after a thunderstorm on Christmas Day

Brian Clifford is Certain The Meeting will go ahead.Cry
Aint that Clown learned anything.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 1:41 PM GMT
thanks turnip,the forcast was for it to be windy down your way today has that happened yet ?


happy christmas
Report turnip turns December 25, 2012 1:45 PM GMT
Was very windy earlier,has now died down though,been dry for about 2 hrs.

Happy christmas Wink
Report allpoints December 25, 2012 1:47 PM GMT
Meanwhile here at Sedgefield I've had to close the blinds so thst I can see this screen.It's a beautiful sunny day & the same forecast for tomorrow.
Come north you folk,you know it makes sense.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 1:52 PM GMT
allpoints ive gone from a 1000/1 been at sedgefield yesterday morning to about an evens chance.

good to know theres seems no problems sedgefield deserves a break after having the fixture took away from them in the first place due to the bad weather up there in the winter,its not a big price it been one of only 3 turf meetings that do take place.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 1:55 PM GMT
thanks turnip lets hope the forcasters have it wrong,3 days ago it was meant to be winter sunshine for boxing day.
Report allpoints December 25, 2012 1:58 PM GMT
Foxy
Nobody has been more critical than me about Sedgefield over the last few years but they deserve a medal for what they have done to get this meeting on.There's still loads of standing water in the middle of the track.
As for there only being three on I would take that with a pinch of salt.As long as the tracks are safe they'll race no matter how heavy they are.Simply too much money to throw away.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 2:26 PM GMT
lets hope i am wrong allpoints the more the merrier.
Report ribero1 December 25, 2012 2:28 PM GMT
Decent day still at wetherby.
Report red lorry~ yellow lorry December 25, 2012 3:08 PM GMT
xmas ruined on the "will it be on market" ~ should I bet under or just leave it ~ regit your comments would be greatly appreciated Confused
Report ribero1 December 25, 2012 3:46 PM GMT
Sorry regit busy greening up on next year's beverley bullit.
Report adge December 25, 2012 5:41 PM GMT
he'll still be studying his calendar and diary that his boss got hom for christmas
Report THETRUTHHURTS December 25, 2012 6:37 PM GMT
I THOUGHT REGIT HAD GONE ON ONE OF THOSE COMMISSION CRUISES AROUND THE CARIBBEAN?????(KNOWN AS A COMMISSION CRUISE BECAUSE EVERY TIME U TRY TO BOARD THE SHIP THEY SAY,"ITS GONE"LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Barnie December 25, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
Tim have Betfair bought a cruiseliner? Thought u may have optsd for 1 of the CELEBRITY ships?
Report Barnie December 25, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
Tim have Betfair bought a cruiseliner? Thought u may have optsd for 1 of the CELEBRITY ships?
Report Barnie December 25, 2012 8:45 PM GMT
opted
Report roo December 25, 2012 9:08 PM GMT
FWIW i half think these southern tracks will race boxing day whether its raceable or not, i know for a fact fontwell are completely packed out of hospitality , marquues the lot.

Ive been there the last two meeting s and the grounds been diabolical with about half the rain,

Good luck to the creams who are out tomorrow, try and make it count, eh..
Report foxy December 25, 2012 9:11 PM GMT
happy christmas roo

what do you see the weather been like at fontwell for the next 18 hours ?
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:13 PM GMT
FOXY YOU GOT ANOTHER FELLA ON DOWN THERE
Report roo December 25, 2012 9:15 PM GMT
it bolloxed it down prior to lunchtime but not too bad since then, as i say i just think theyll race irrespective of whether its raceable or not
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:16 PM GMT
20 ODDD YEAR AGO WE WENT TO THIS XMAS MEEEETING IT WASNT BOXING DAY IT WAS IN BETWEEEN IZZY KERMAN WAS ALIVE THEN ,U THINK WEVE HAD RAIN ,WELL THEY CAME OFF THE LAST BEND AND THE WATER WAS GOING 10 FOOT UP IN THE AIR THEY RAN 3 RACES AND WHEN WE GOT BACK TO THE CAR WE OPENED THE DOOR AND THE WATER WAS HALF INCH AWAY FROM GIONG IN THE CAR THE CAR PARK WAS 4 INCH UNDER WATER AND THEY RAN 3
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:18 PM GMT
YA RIGHT ROO THEYVE THAT MENTALITY THERE 9-10 WOULD ABANDONED BUT THERE GAME AS OWT AT FONTWELL
Report roo December 25, 2012 9:20 PM GMT
they are when its gonna be chocca pat !!!
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:22 PM GMT
WE LOST THAT YEAR 3-0 AS WELL DONE UZZ ORCHESTRAS
Report foxy December 25, 2012 9:25 PM GMT
roo it looks like heavy rain from about 1 pm is the local forcast saying the same ?

cashless ?
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:29 PM GMT
YOU AINT STOPPED GOING ON ABOUT FONTWELL ALL DAYBlush
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:31 PM GMT
FOXY IS PETE GOING KEMPTON
Report foxy December 25, 2012 9:32 PM GMT
its important i have to leave at 5am cashless dont want to get by newbury and its off,roo gets the weather right more often than not,its important to ask peoples opinions that are worth something.
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:33 PM GMT
NO PROBS FOXY
Report foxy December 25, 2012 9:37 PM GMT
its me talking cashless i am in her account,my intentions have always been to go but now the possibilty of it been off or pissing down all day has made me have 2nd thoughts,i can divert and go to wincanton but they are in the same boat weather wise,sedgefield looks guarenteed to be on but geographicly its impossible to set of for fontwell and do a u turn at 8am,as it happens i think fontwell will race but it could turn into a farce with the forcast rain ,car parks fun fair in the middle and the possibilty of it been called of after 2 races which to be honest seldom happens anymore.
Report foxy December 25, 2012 9:38 PM GMT
re kempton 3rd choice if i head south.
Report CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD December 25, 2012 9:41 PM GMT
THE SPORTING LIFE WEB SITE DOESNT TALK IT UP AT THE MOMENT HE SAYS THEYVE HAD A BIT TOO MUCH THAN THEY WANTED AND THEY MAY GET MORE HES GOT STANDING WATER
Report nineiron December 25, 2012 9:45 PM GMT
Pete it's gonna be close on the weather
Depends how fAr across it actually comes across
From most weather sites seems ok until one pm
Fifty fifty after that
Hope u get it on
Report videowatcher December 25, 2012 9:53 PM GMT
cheers
Report foxy December 25, 2012 10:01 PM GMT
nineiron thats the feeling i get re weather but its changed many times over the last 48 hours,it was only 2 years ago we did the double fontwell and wollybags both off ffs what a carry on this weather has become.

have a good holiday.
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