Rancid Post Bloopers

A modest bunch in modest form with the glaring exception being TITIAN BOY, who would have won easier here last time but for a mad mid-race blunder and he can complete a hat-trick. Duhallowcountry is hard to trust but has it in him to threaten.[Alistair Whitehouse-Jones]

An interesting novice chase in which useful recruits Zamdy Man and Westren Warrior have the form to go very well but there are doubts about both on account of this trip while the latter would also be ideally served by slower ground.

The chase that Westren Warrior ran it at Kelso clearly doesn't count.

Today's RP page 65 spotlight on the King George describes Tea For Two as Tea For Three. #RancidPost

3 SONG SAA

held up, headway after 11th, tracking leading pair when blundered 13th, ridden to chase winner after 3 out, weakened quickly next,lost left-fore shoe (vet said gelding had lost its left-fore shoe.)

RP today - the gelding operation must have been painful for her!

«    7    19     Feeltherhythm (IRE) 11/2    6    11-1 v    Chris Grant    89    —    —       
Brian Hughes
   
Chased leaders, hit 5th, not fluent next, lost place after 8th, soon behind, tailed off when pulled up before normal 3 out (tchd 5/1 and tchd 6/1)
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Listed as coming 7th, 19 lengths behind the 6th and 24 lengths ahead of the 8th, yet comments say 'pulled up'.

NO FURTHER rain is wanted at Chepstow, with an inspection called at 8am on Thursday for Friday's meeting.

The track is waterlogged in places, and clerk of the course Keith Ottesen said: "We've had 47mm since last Friday. We could do with no further rain, it is due to be clear for part of today, but then more rain is forecast for early on Thursday morning, bringing another ten to 12mm, hence the inspection.

"That rain then clears through but another front with blustery showers is due Thursday night, and then from mid-morning Friday more rain is forecast.

"We could do without any rain but that's very unlikely. If we have a dry day and night then we can take stock."

Officials at Wincanton have not called an inspection for Friday's card but are monitoring the situation, with the going heavy, soft in places and more rain forecast.

All very helpful except that Wincanton's meeting is Thursday not Friday.

Bertenbar 12/1    13    11-2 tp    Dan Skelton    104    —    —       
Mr J Andrews7
   
Blundered 3rd, made most but jumped erratically, blundered 13th, ridden and headed before 2 out, still just 3rd when mistake last, blundered rapidly
.......................

"Blundered rapidly?"

Dark And Dangerous was the one to beneift from the selection stopping on that occasion and should give another good account as he bids for a third C&D success of the campaign,

     Chef D'Oeuvre (FR) 9/4F    6    10-1over weight5 p    Warren Greatrex    135    *    *   
b g Martaline - Kostroma (FR) (Lost World)
Jamie Bargary3
   
Not always fluent, tried to lead but couldn't, chased winner from 2nd but not on terms from 4th, lost 2nd place 15th, 8 lengths won in 4th and beaten when fell 3 out (op 11/4)

8th lengths won in 4th? WTF.

"The second hurdle in the home straight omitted on both circuits
unsuitable ground conditions"

Have the Rancid Post staff been deprived of punctuation marks on their laptops in a cost cutting exercise?

St Saviour's run at Hereford on the 19th December is recorded as beaten a "snk" into third for a short head + a nose.

Sod's Law' Wins again ...

NO 'Pedigree' Header Line ....(Between 'Declared Today' Panel - and Race Record String) on beta.racingpost.com - and thus access (denied)to Pedigree information - for 2.10 Newbury winner Dinsdale.

F   Chef D'Oeuvre (FR) 9/4F
Jamie Bargary3 Warren Greatrex
    6     101 oh5 p     135     –     –     –    

Not always fluent, tried to lead but couldn't, chased winner from 2nd but not on terms from 4th, lost 2nd place 15th, 8 lengths won in 4th and beaten when fell 3 out

The biggest blooper of all.

The new site. A gargantuan &uck up of the highest order. Turned a usable (slow) site into a clunky non intuitive (slower) site. Well done Bruce.

No more. Sub cancelled.

ELIDOR just did enough to edge out old rival Wall Of Fire and resume winning ways. His excellent rider was at his best, but being 22lb better off than when beaten 7l on his final outing last year in the Doncaster Cup made the difference. It was his first win out of handicap company and a Cup campaign may be on his agenda now.

How the heck can you confuse the Doncaster Cup with the Mallard handicap?

Then you have the race half an hour after that one...

MARSH PRIDE
Comment..."Chased leaders, ridden along well over 2f out, soon driven and weakened"

Analysis...."hit a flat spot 3f out before doing some encouraging late work"


At least one of them got it right.

Archie Watson
Upper Lambourn, West Berks
RTF 83% Horses running to form in last 14 days

11Apr17     Lin 5fSt C52yNvAc 3K     1/7     by dht, Corinthia Knight     13/2     O Murphy     80     —
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It Won by 3 and a half lengths.

Mr J J O'Neill - there are clearly two jockeys of this name with one riding in Ireland and one the U.K. The RP stats have morphed these two individuals  into one.

^^

To be fair most of the jockeys riding for J J O'Neil can have such contrasting attitudes to their rides that it's not difficult to think that it's actually two different riders.

Data slow updating

https://www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/802536/havana-gold/progeny-statistics

>Progeny RESULTS shows a winner yesterday 1 May @ Beverly Havana Star
>Progeny STATISTICS still shows NO WINNERS 9.33 today ....

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Could misinform Today - 2:00 Floss The Hoss layers

Why does the Progeny history only go back 3 months now

Do subscribers get more data / history than that

Floss The Hoss well beat STATS not updated pre-race

Yesterday's seller at Worcester.

Race analysis says no bids for winner; Talk of the Tracks refers to the winner going to the Sheila Lewis yard.

Having attended and witnessed the auction I can definitely confirm that there was bidding. Went for 4,400 gns from memory.

How can such a simple, factual, matter be misreported?

PENALTY added TWICE to - Duncan Of Scotland - Racecard Official Rating ...

Reads ad 62  .... should be 60  p;us 6lb Penalty = 56

9:00 Dundalk

6 4 00-030  Catwilldo b 18C  7-9-9 Garvan Donnelly Michelle Hamilton10 [/b]59[/b] 53 70
7 8 323216  Pillar 11 4-9-7 Adrian McGuinness Colin Keane 57 57 66
8 10 5054-1 Duncan Of Scotland b 4 D 4-9-6 Lee Smyth Shane B Kelly3 62 - 69
9 14 31-467 More Kudos p 21 CD 4-9-3 Michael J Browne Wayne Lordan 53 64 70

^ * typo  -  Reads as 62  .... should be 50  plus 6lb Penalty = 56

Greta G - 3yo (13 Jul 13 gr f)

Running in the:

DUKE OF CAMBRIDGE STAKES (GROUP 2) (FILLIES & MARES) (Class 1) (4yo+)

22Aug16  Thi C6NvHc 2K     2m Sft     10-11 b 4/11 btn 18L Question Of Faith 10-3  4/1C Mr B Lynn


5:05  Thirsk    22 Aug 2016

Betfair Novice Flat Amateur Riders' Handicap
(Class 6) (0-65, 4yo+) (2m13yds) 2m Soft
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Data recognition picked up the word Novice from the race Title - and outputted it - in the Lifetime History - as NvHandicap  for Novices

There are NO NOVICE HANDICAP races on the FLAT.

10 Sep 17
4.35 Fontwell
Jackblack (113)

COMMENTS Made all in 3-runner C&D event latest; more required to defy the penalty

Fontwell 4:35
1st (1) Jackblack 9/1
2nd (8) Thisonetime 3/1J
3rd (2) Amadoue 7/1
11 ran

24 Aug 17    Fon 17½ GF 4NvH 3K    10-12    1/3 (4L Knight Commander 11-1) h 2/1    Tom Cannon    113

From the BBC Sport website -

"Humble, polite, teetoal - O'Brien"

In the Truckers Tangle form, the point jockey in the formbook is listed as one 'S Baragry'.

I'd bet long odds on that's a typo for Bargary.

Not this time. He's Shane Baragry, son of owner/trainer/breeder/ex-amateur-jockey Jerry.

https://www.theirishfield.ie/on-the-spot-shane-baragry-236251/

When Robert Morley died Brough Scot ; Condolences to his parents.;

Fair enough - well done Racing Post in that case!

Surnames can arise out of typos, I wonder if this family were once a Bargary?

Hard copy of today's Rancid has transposed Trainer and Jockey of the Coral Hurdle yesterday!

What happened to sub-editors?

By Scott Burton
1:51PM, DEC 20 2017
   
Jerry McGrath could be in for an early Christmas gift if he recieves the all-clear to ride at Ascot this Saturday after breaking his arm in a fall at Cheltenham last month.

This thread is pointless, the rag and its employees are a total disgrace.  Yesterday Alister Jones was taking only HER second ride over jumps

^ Maxime Tissier in the first at Fakenham.  Please close this thread - we all know the RP is a piece of sht!

2:10 Kelso
By Michael Robson - 20 minutes agoMichael RobsonLATEST
Kelso latest: Delire should make most of drop in class
Delire D'Estruval looks banker material in the 2.10. He is by far the best of these on official ratings and was simply out of his depth at Cheltenham.

He's not wrong .....Only runner with a rating

Two lovely examples from the hard copy of The Rancid today ~

Huff and Puff, only nudged up 2lb despite winning his last two starts, done well considering he made an mistake

The Last But One .....it is hoped his confidence isn’t effected by this unfortunate fall

Picture in Post today  ~ regret I don’t have the ability to copy and paste it ~ showing police,  sniffer dogs and spectators at Goodwood yesterday.

Headline “ Police and sniffer drugs visible at Goodwood yesterday”

Unflattering spotlight comment for Whinging Willie tomorrow

Tripe course winner; yet to strike form this season but dropped in class today.

Many possibilities for the label of a 'tripe course'.

Bath? Southwell Jumps?

Brighton

The spotlight for the 6.00 Killarney, Johnny Ward writes that Great Grey ended his stable's "spell in the doldrums" when winning at Tipperary.

Presumably, Ward is confusing Luke W Comer with Luke Comer, because had he bothered to have read his own paper's analysis of the Tipperary race and the quote from the trainer, he would have been aware that Luke W Comer had only taken out a licence in April and Great Grey was only his "6th or 7th" runner.

I don't know what the set up is, or even if they train out of the same yard, but as Luke Comer is still having runners, it presumably isn't a case of Luke W having taken over the licence, so can't be classed as one and the same.

Johnson gives up Stratford rides after bad fall but should be fine for festival

James Burn is at the controls
..................................


Looks like James Burn is reporting on the racing without watching it. Deckie's fall obviously at Taunton.

Form line for Isle Road, Newton 5.55.contains a lovely “may of”.

1

Runner Jacket
7. Tiquer (FR) 16/1
Paddy Brennan
Alan Jones
11    107 w2    124    –    –    –   
Tracked leaders, challenged 4 out, led after next, stayed on well, ridden out (trainer said, regards the apparent improvement in form, gelding was jarred up following it's previous run and appreciated the slower ground on this occasion) (op 12/1)

"It's"

Tracking leaders when badly hampered 3rd, remained close up, pecked 3 out, ridden when went left next, weakened between last 2, bled from the nose (vet said gelding bled from the nose and lost it's left hind shoe) (op 6/1 tchd 7/1)

"It's great to get the old job going," said Williams. "The BHA has had a brutal job but it's excelled. For us, it's a case of getting there and it's nice to be busy again."

From the RP website. Lovely to see an "it's" as opposed to "its" getting another outing as the jumps recommences.

Analysis
My Ratings
Past Winners
Add 19yds. The first pair came right away in this fair little novice handicap.

GETAWAY TRUMP responded gamely when asked for everything after the last and just did enough to master the runner-up. He disappointed back chasing on his seasonal debut at Fontwell 19 days earlier. However, that was his first run since undergoing wind surgery and he'd clearly come on a lot as he travelled smoothly into contention here. The 7yo is smart at best and can make the grade over fences, although perhaps a stiffer test will prove ideal going forward.

Zoffee ran a big race on this introduction to chasing and just failed to see off a rival he was 9lb badly off with on official figures. The versatile 4yo is such an honest galloper and is obviously up to winning races over fences this season. He too may get a little further now.

Trincomalee loves this venue although his novice win here came over further on easier ground, so it wasn't a surprise to see him get tapped for toe on this chasing debut. He's bred to make his mark over fences and should learn a lot.

Golden Taipan, happiest on good ground, jumped well enough on this chasing debut. However, he fell in a hole nearing the penultimate fence and perhaps needed the run having undergone wind surgery during the summer. [David Orton]

Line 4 from above.
A fair little novice HANDICAP

Why did David Orton consider this a HANDICAP?

The Post Twitter feed today indicated that First Flow was Kim Bailey's first Grade 1 winner.

Er......

^   since the young YTS 'journalist' ... left school.

Sheila Nash  (IRE) 100/30

Jinked left start and unseated rider (was unseated shortly after the start was affected).

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NO -  after the start was Effected

In this instance - the start was Effected .... had Happened


- and - the start was (NOT)affected  ... because ...

After viewing a recording of the incident, it was found that no other horse or rider was involved, and that the incident was accidental and caused by the mare jinking left shortly after the tape went back

The blooper today where instead of Jonathan Moore being applauded for standing down from 2 Cheltenham rides, Jonathan Burke took the plaudits,  has gone straight to No 1.

parispike -

There was - and still is - an Error from well over a  week ago - that I highlighted - and explained - on here.

I  will bring that back  - probably when the horses involved next run - to add to their embarrassment ...

- although - on all known Form - it will be 'water off a duck's back'

'ignorance is bliss' -  so they say.

Is this thread still bambling on? Picking upon the minor details of this and that. Get a life.

Well said Tom.

Well said Tom.

ha ha, great minds...

well tbf, Tom doesn't look old enough to have a 2003 start date!

... Could be his brother Wayne.?

But as we're on this thread, I will pick up on something and it's the RP homepage, which has "Today's Highlights" as one of its headers.

This seems totally inappropriate when there is a sad news story being reported underneath.

They've surpassed themselves today by, under the heading "TODAY'S HIGHLIGHTS" announcing "Prince Phillip, The Duke of Edinburgh, dies aged 99"

Highlights?

Not really a blooper - but annoying all the same

Forward Form arrows on the results cards > always handy for seeing how many from a race have had a run and then looking at those runs ,....

A few days [5 night] since Island Bandit and Greatness Awaits have ran but still no >

https://www.racingpost.com/
results/54/sandown/2021-07-28/788207

"How do we sell our sport" asks Maddy Playle.

Might I suggest not putting the article behind a paywall would be a good start?

Aggagio wins the seller at Goodwood. Racing post - no bid for winner

Sold 23k

Top Jockeys WARWICK

non Runner is 0/0.That's a surprise.

According to Matt Rennie in today's edition Minella Indo "did not respond to Rachel Blackmore's urges".

Whilst I knew racing was an incestuous business this takes matters to a whole new level.

One Scott Burton referencing Mick Easterby as the trainer of 3 time Gold Cup winner Best Mate goes straight in at No. 1.

paris.  That is some Freudian slip.  Presumably he meant urgings?

One assumes so LH but you never know.....

This one from the ATR website

Winless since early 2020 and out of sorts since the turn of the year, well below best in pair of Plumpton handicaps (at up to 19.7f). May of needed Ludlow hurdles run on back of wind op 5 weeks ago and betting may prove a good guide.

"May of". Ye Gods.

From Timeform comments on ATR site

ightly raced since winning 2 novice chases in late-2020 but proved he retains plenty of ability when runner-up behind Gold Des Bois on return in Kelso handicap (17f) last month, possible he'd of won if asked for his effort sooner. 3 lb better off with that rival here.

"He'd of won", Ye Gods

another from today's - attheraces website

'She has won three times from 5f to 1m on good ground. Beaten 6l behind Arividicio at 50-1fav when eighth of 13 on her latest outing here over 7f (good) last month.'
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Not even a typo for, say, 5-1 fav ... as the horse's SP was actually - 33/1.

Post yesterday. Dominic Finn informs us "he was going to win his race but he fell at the final FENCE. It was the introductory HURDLE. 1.30 Ascot Friday.

ATR formline

3. MAX'S CHAMP (FR)
7/2 2Fav
7 11-6 t1 b1
110
midfield in touch, driven before 3 out, stayed on to chase leader before 2 out where 4 lengths down, stayed on in vein pursuit approaching last, kept on same pace run-in, no match for easy winner

Not a  bloodless victory by the winner presumably?

Yes, I've seen varicose other grammer mistakes as well

This from the BHA site Stewards Report

The winner, BEN BUIE (IRE), appeared to show improved form compared with its previous run at Pontefract 25 June 2023, where the gelding finished fourth of five, beaten 37 ½ lengths. The explanation given by Martin Keighley, that BEN BUIE (IRE) benefitted from the reapplication of the visor and being able to dominate in front, was noted.

This Ladies and Gentlemen is your regulatory body.

zipper

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b g Le Havre (IRE)  - Lady Francesca (GB)  (Montjeu (IRE))
COMMENTS Looked [i]unsuited by the soft ground when beaten in the Melrose at York last time[/i]

COMMENTS Looked unsuited by the soft ground when beaten in the Melrose at York last time

Prime candidate for biggest blooper ever surely has to be the write up for Goldikova's first BC, which questioned whether she would act on the pro-ride. If memory serves it was spotted on this forum and I'm not sure whether the online version was then re-jigged.

Back page of today's post. By James Milton. " Newcastle take on man City in a daunting efl cup FIRST ROUND tie this evening". This lack of attention to the simplest of details is why I don't buy it anymore.

In today's paper page 8. Greame Rodway informs us the Cheveley Park is a group 2. How long is he in the game?

Today Graham Woods informs us Australia beat Georgia 35-25. It was 35-15. Then in his opinion he states "Tonga struggle to score points". Really??? They scored 16 v Ireland and 17 v Scotland. A great return against 2 top teams surely.

Today Graham Woods gets his handicaps mixed up in the Ireland v Scotland game - hcap about 12 - and the Wales v Georgia game - hcap around 18. He has put them the other way around. Truly desperate stuff.

Gibraltar v Ireland. Tom Hill, whoever he Is, informs us that in his opinion ireland can still make the play offs if they finish 3rd. He states " if Ireland beat Gibraltar and the Netherlands AWAY they move up to 3rd". It is only mathematically possible. Even then its 10 billion. The only way Ireland finish 3rd is to win the 2 games lol. And then the Netherlands to lose to both Greece and GIBRALTAR!!!!!! Where did they dig him up from?

Poetic Force 4.30 Bri tomorrow C&D winner 8F

RP - Won by a nose over C&D in August;

10Aug23
Bri 7 GF 4Hc 5K 9-4 1/7 (nse Granary Queen 9-11) 9/1

7F !

That only serves to emphasise the idiocy of both the BHA and Racing Post for publishing the - 'to the yard' - Race Distance in the Race TITLE

Today's Race is published as .... 7f216y - That is just 4 FOUR 'effing Yards SHORT of being - A MILE

Why cannot they BOTH publish the Race DISTANCE as = 1 Mile

What with Rail movements - or, even in Straight only races, Jockeys switching from one side of the track to the other (for a perceived 'Golden Highway') - the 4 YARDS - becomes entirely INCONSEQUENTIAL

Yet the pedantic PRATTS want, and do, still OUTPUT that Yards NONSENSE.

Tote ten to follow. Dylan Hill doing a write up on 50 horses to choose from a week or 2 ago. Nothing wrong with that. Except there are only 49 horses in his list!!!!! Coming to something when these post "pundits" can't count to 50. Sloppy and lazy.

Robbie Wilders:

Few could argue with Springwell Bay’s stylish victory in the 0-140, but supporters of White Rhino are within their rights to feel slightly aggrieved as he found his path briefly blocked by the winner in the home straight.

Except that White Rhino found his path blocked by American Sniper in a 0-125, a completely different race.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/previews/3.35-cheltenham-will-white-rhino-co...

Today on the front page some idiot states "12 page grand national pullout inside". There's only 8 pages!!!!!

In the hard copy on Tuesday Supervisor the winner of the last at Wincanton the day before is referred to as having raced last time out at Newcastle.

Er, it was Newbury.

Basic stuff.

It was Monday, not Tuesday.

It was Monday's racing and thus the results were in Tuesday's paper!

Or have you discovered the paper where tomorrow's results are printed screaming? PS It won't be the Rancid.

Ah.

Won twice over fences last summer (including here) and best effort since when second over 2m here in February. May of found the race coming too soon when fifth at Catterick later that month and no surprise to see a better showing returned to this venue.

From the Timeform ATR comments. Phil Bull currently spinning uncontrollably in his grave.

It’s a bit harsh highlighting the odd error,these guys work 24/7 for the benefit of their readers,posting copy within minutes of the action.96 pages everyday,even the red tops get Sunday off.plus they contribute to outlook,weekender.then there’s social media,and on line podcasts,you tube.

Amazing feat to keep the show on the road,15 meetings on a bank holiday.

More work must go into it than your normal daily paper.

Every single person interested,or works in racing would be lost without it.

An error of say, "3rd" rather than "4th", is excusable I accept. Possibly a typo.

"May of" just demonstrates a complete ignorance of the English language. It is not a typo; it is what that person thinks is grammatically correct. As such it brings into question their competence to be a journalist.