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The old Victor Chandler for me
Never refused me a bet, always gave me the price even when he rub the price was off his board.
I can still hear him to this day calling out to his outside man CHARLIEEE.
My last memory of him was sitting on the bench at Newbury just behind the paddock.
Really nice person, dont think he was that old when he passed away.
Never refused me a bet, always gave me the price even when he rub the price was off his board.
I can still hear him to this day calling out to his outside man CHARLIEEE.
My last memory of him was sitting on the bench at Newbury just behind the paddock.
Really nice person, dont think he was that old when he passed away.
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Gregory Hughes ( Iris chap who I always see at Cheltenham ).
Lovely guy and always pleasant.
Lovely guy and always pleasant.
I always found Freddie williams interesting to bet with , one minute he was giving me a bottle of water and saying " no problem son" then next race it was " ###k off , your`e on the machine " .
He will be wanting to fight everyone at Ayr today, never won a fight yet
Eric foreman is a shy caring warm individual who communicates well with people and who works tirelessly for world peace and harmony .
Freddie was a whanker only wanted to lay JP when he had partners.
Jolly Joe I found it hard to get on with unless I wanted one of his trebles that he used to do.
I would not want to travel back with him even when he has won
if he has lost much prefer to walk.
if he has lost much prefer to walk.
use your head dont bet with fred bet with sid and win a few quid
they used to show that advert in local picture house
mad dog those were the days when Dickie W and myself were buzzing.
Mick The Miller....Best Greyhound
Golden Miller.....Best Steeplechaser
Harry Miller......Best Bookmaker
That was the slogan he used for years.
Golden Miller.....Best Steeplechaser
Harry Miller......Best Bookmaker
That was the slogan he used for years.
Ave it on with Avalon.Eddie Baxter who traded in the name of Avalon.
In and out of Devon,Bet with Jack Bevan.
In and out of Devon,Bet with Jack Bevan.
What Charlie was old Victor calling?Charlie Maskey or Charlie Mendoza.Both worked for him for years.
Wood Lane, old Victor was a handsome man, my bets used to go into
the book as Boy.
the book as Boy.
I had a photo of old Victor,Charlie Mendoza and Benno Miller taken at Brighton.I gave it to young Victor at Cheltenham.
now someone has mentioned taffy..anyone remember the big lad who worked for him [ can't remember his name ] now works for victor chandler now in gibralter. says it's by miles the best job he's ever had
Mick The Head.Used to clerk for The Viking firm at Harringay.
Abe Bernard with the clock on the top board.Mo Puttnam with the moody phone behind the joint.
Anyone remember a bookie called Hector Roberts ?
It was the time when a name sake had shot a policeman and he went on the run.
He would shout out Everyone is looking for Hector.
It was the time when a name sake had shot a policeman and he went on the run.
He would shout out Everyone is looking for Hector.
Stephen Little, I bet with him more often than not and used to see him at the big coursing tournaments as well as the racetracks wearing that rather distinctive overcoat of his.
Wood Lane
I am taking about the 60s so I think it would have been Charlie Maskey as he was a big man from what I remember.
Hard to explain but it was like watching a play
Victor would want something done and he would say CHARLIEE and up would pop CHARLIEE.
Never any fuss it was a joy in those days to go racing.
Think my Junior membership badge for the day at Newmarket was 25/-
I am taking about the 60s so I think it would have been Charlie Maskey as he was a big man from what I remember.
Hard to explain but it was like watching a play
Victor would want something done and he would say CHARLIEE and up would pop CHARLIEE.
Never any fuss it was a joy in those days to go racing.
Think my Junior membership badge for the day at Newmarket was 25/-
JOCKEY WILSON always offers good win odds but also MASSIVE place TERMS, he often offers 1/8th the odds and once i even managed to get 1/9th the odds off him
In and out of Devon,Bet with Jack Bevan
Later on the firm became "Harry Metcalfe, you'll have your bet halved" imo.
Harry was always so polite and friendly, though. I used to ask for a thousand to eighty, even when I knew a five to forty would be enough for him, just to hear the civilized knockback.
Later on the firm became "Harry Metcalfe, you'll have your bet halved" imo.
Harry was always so polite and friendly, though. I used to ask for a thousand to eighty, even when I knew a five to forty would be enough for him, just to hear the civilized knockback.
john turner was and is a total gentleman down the west country, in particular he had the number one pitch at courses like salisbury, i very much hope he is still alive, and adrian, of sam harris fame, is a very decent guy around the southern tracks where he leads the ring or plays a leading role in the ring
"Wood Lane".........One day at Sandown,Benno showed me a photograph of three young men walking along the seafront at Brighton.
It was probably the same one......it was one of his proudest possessions.
It was probably the same one......it was one of his proudest possessions.
BARNIE;i hope your joking about the massive place terms with our friend jockey wilson,anyone who has an each way bet with that man needs to go back to school and redo their maths exam,its called exploitation of the masses.he is slowly killing the golden goose.
AD - I think its safe to assume he was joking. Good job we have the Gambling Commission now to protect the public from abusers LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Funny how their stated objectives include keeping gambling fair and open, yet the antics of the EW terms abusers (which they have allowed) is the exact opposite. I think that if any bookmaker is doing "non-standard" terms they should be forced to display a large sign (provided by the GC)to that effect explainng how their terms are worse than their colleagues.
Funny how their stated objectives include keeping gambling fair and open, yet the antics of the EW terms abusers (which they have allowed) is the exact opposite. I think that if any bookmaker is doing "non-standard" terms they should be forced to display a large sign (provided by the GC)to that effect explainng how their terms are worse than their colleagues.
old victor chander was a gent
pity his son is not the same
pity his son is not the same
The William Hill bookie who does southern tracks i saw him at Newbury recently (he's as lucky as seeing two magpies with a black cat running across the road for safe measure)
whitmarsh
yes my father had a mobile phone in 1948!!
robert puttnam
yes my father had a mobile phone in 1948!!
robert puttnam
Was not one of the reasons for making pitches saleable to bring fresh blood into the Ring, ones prepared to lay decent bets that the old guard would have refused ? How the worm has turned with operators like jocky and cjs turning people over big time.
Jack Warner from Doncaster was a top bookie, think one of his sons still works for bookies in the north.
Jack Warner,we knew him as Bert The Bandit,not a bad bloke.What about old Gillibrand,terrific money getter,real good grafter.
In the north Johnny Ridley - first class bookmaker and a gentleman to boot ......
colin webster lovely man and a pleasure to do business with
Tom and John Jenkins, The John Power Organisation. Absolute legends in their day.
the young guy who stood up as bill sanders total gent and fair layer too
Bill Sanders one of the old school, not like some of the clowns you see performing these days backing an even money favourite back for £20, 13-1, 3 losers in the book for £20 each....
seaside for sure Victor's offsider was Charlie Maskey, a good friend of mine who helped me get my first job in racing some 26 years ago, and whom I had the pleasure of entertaining out here in HK a couple of years ago. Complete gent.
I also forget to mention Mick Burton, the Hills man in the north who sadly died not so long ago, one of the nicest men you'd meet in any walk of life.
I also forget to mention Mick Burton, the Hills man in the north who sadly died not so long ago, one of the nicest men you'd meet in any walk of life.
The Irish lass at Cheltenham who gives you a sweetie every time you have a bet 
In fairness I must also add the old Fred Bins, if I remember right his joint was next door to V/C on nearly all the tracks in the south in the 60s and to tell you the truth I never had to go around looking for a price as between them you would ALWAYS get your bet on.
I can tell you they were always fair and a real pleasure to go racing in those days.
I can tell you they were always fair and a real pleasure to go racing in those days.
Happy Valley,The Charlie Maskey you are talking about is "young" Charlie Maskey.The one who worked for Victor senior was his father.
WHEN YOU DREW OFF CASH ,YOULL ENJOY YA SLASH
WHEN YOU DREW OFF CASH ,YOULL ENJOY YA SLASH
WHEN YOU DREW OFF CASH ,YOULL ENJOY YA SLASH
Youve pulled one out of the hat there Mr.Memory,that was some years ago.
Pat whelan was a great guy to bet with.used to just stand there watching him reel off the bets as they came in.wish the guys who represent the firm would lighten up a bit.they look so uptight and miserable.very rarely bet with them now.cheer up guys u cud b digging holes in the road.
Try My Best. Personally I have found the Pat Whelan guys to be quite cheerful.They also very rarely refuse a bet,and unlike most offer the "proper" each way terms even on 18 runner handicaps.
"whitmarsh"....."There are many Kings,but only one Manny King"
KNOWN AS ..W.P. Harrower in edinburgh , never refused a bet even when they were running on the phone ,,45 years ago ......at that time stopped paying commissionon , ODDS ON ..BUT STILL LAID YOU . ON COURSE JOHN JOYCE well organised just kept scooping it up ??
The bets stephen little used to lay at the smaller meetings were frightening.
Johnny White....Look for the White umbrella.They had a dog at White City,White Umbella that won races.Chummy Gaventa named a 2yo Whites Umbrella.
John Henwood....You Know The Rules.His horse of the same name won a very big hcp at Sandown one day.
Wm. Hill ....The Sign That Means What It Says...No Limit.
John Henwood....You Know The Rules.His horse of the same name won a very big hcp at Sandown one day.
Wm. Hill ....The Sign That Means What It Says...No Limit.
I like the manny cook lads and pat whelen was a gentleman..
grumpy jim
John Joyce, now that is a name from the past as i have said before on here in 1972 i opened an account with him; i was earning £10 a week at the time; i got his bills every Saturday as they were brought up to date end of business on a Thursday.
The first bill came and i was at work,when i phoned home at lunch time my mother said there was a letter there for you so i told her to open it; i was expecting a bill of about a fiver; my mother went ballistic as the account stated i had had three losing bets that week of £200 per bet so owing £600 in total, when i got home i rang the firm; at 203 York Road Hartlepool; explaining that these bets were not mine after a lengthy phone call they finally admitted it wasnt my bets but a wholesale butcher who had the same name, i used to see the guy at York and chuckle to myself remebering the episode.
John Joyce, now that is a name from the past as i have said before on here in 1972 i opened an account with him; i was earning £10 a week at the time; i got his bills every Saturday as they were brought up to date end of business on a Thursday.
The first bill came and i was at work,when i phoned home at lunch time my mother said there was a letter there for you so i told her to open it; i was expecting a bill of about a fiver; my mother went ballistic as the account stated i had had three losing bets that week of £200 per bet so owing £600 in total, when i got home i rang the firm; at 203 York Road Hartlepool; explaining that these bets were not mine after a lengthy phone call they finally admitted it wasnt my bets but a wholesale butcher who had the same name, i used to see the guy at York and chuckle to myself remebering the episode.
Matt Lowery
Always a pleasure to do business with such a friendly & pleasant bloke.
If anyone watches Carter the dulcet bookmakers tones you can hear when Carter is at the races were of Mr Lowery (Jimmy Grey)or tashy to his friends.
One of lifes true gentlemen.
Always a pleasure to do business with such a friendly & pleasant bloke.
If anyone watches Carter the dulcet bookmakers tones you can hear when Carter is at the races were of Mr Lowery (Jimmy Grey)or tashy to his friends.
One of lifes true gentlemen.
Dunstall Park Snooper,
Was that the Arthur Phillips who made a book at Birmingham races?He had an iron foundry in Dudley,was a good layer.
Was that the Arthur Phillips who made a book at Birmingham races?He had an iron foundry in Dudley,was a good layer.
What happened to the Vikings ?
They never refushed a bet from me all the time I was punting at Harringay.
Last time I heard about them was when they were in Cyprus.
Are they both dead ?
They never refushed a bet from me all the time I was punting at Harringay.
Last time I heard about them was when they were in Cyprus.
Are they both dead ?
Think I should also mention Gillert, cant remember his first name, was it Bob ? He was a real gent.
Whitmarsh I am sure you remember him
He bet on course and at at the Gay
I am sure he is dead now
Really nice man.
Whitmarsh I am sure you remember him
He bet on course and at at the Gay
I am sure he is dead now
Really nice man.
when there was bundles about and they were betting to 2,5 % a runner they were all nice men
seaside,
Think I should also mention Gillert, cant remember his first name, was it Bob ? He was a real gent.
Whitmarsh I am sure you remember him
He bet on course and at at the Gay
I am sure he is dead now
Really nice man.
Paul Gilliat
Think I should also mention Gillert, cant remember his first name, was it Bob ? He was a real gent.
Whitmarsh I am sure you remember him
He bet on course and at at the Gay
I am sure he is dead now
Really nice man.
Paul Gilliat
Thanks skin
Yes of course Paul Gilliat I am sure I was told he passed away
Yes of course Paul Gilliat I am sure I was told he passed away
Some great old posters on this thread,Whitmarsh,Wood Lane and Mr Memory.
Funny you should say that Ronnie. Many - and I mean many - years ago a good punter I used to know well frequented a local independent shop and engage the owner wanting to take a price a certain horse. When the deal was done the punter invariably produced a loud enforced cough which we all knew to mean 'no bees' !! Happy days.
Maurice Linsday ex wigan rl chairmen , use to bet at Bolton dogs , great memories .
If we're talking books at the dogs John Poulter down at Hove was a legend
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