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En Sabah Nur
05 Jul 11 14:10
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So I am on a 15 sports/horse selection winning streak, 15 selections, 15 wins. My make £100 a day on day 1 went very well yesterday and made £102 profit on day 1 from £100. So onward to day 2.

I am gonna try to make £100 a day laying with a £100 bank. Basically, going to be betting an averge of 20 races, laying horses 20.0 or lower 20x which if all 20 horses are 20.0 then will be making £5 per race x 20 races. If this makes sense.

So here we go.

2:15 Wolverhampton

Laying  Co Dependent @ 11 @ £100.00 (liability) to win £10.00

Balance; £0.00

Goodluck. :)
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Report bornunlucky July 6, 2011 1:19 PM BST
Would you come back if you were him? Should feel sorry for him i suppose. The best sports trader.. EVER has obviously got serious problems. Having to create all the aliases to big himself up, threatening to get people banned for the slightest criticism, and on top of all that he's a sh1t layer.

I'll miss the guy though. Funniest thread..EVER
Report 3DUCKEGGS July 6, 2011 1:37 PM BST
Dear Fair de Bet,

Can you get the nasty Geordie man banned for daring to question my methods of picking 10-1 pokes? Oh on second thoughts change of plan I'll take self exclusion please as I have maxed my Platinum card.
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 6, 2011 1:43 PM BST
will he appear today
betfair please make
a market on this
Report Roger De Bris July 6, 2011 1:55 PM BST
Abrakebabra need him for the day shift today, and tonight he's busy watching "One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest" to study up on how to avoid having to take the horse pills.
Report bornunlucky July 6, 2011 2:21 PM BST
Can someone put a call out for the best sports trader..EVER. I need his day 3 selections.
Report Steamship July 6, 2011 2:50 PM BST
Cant believe i was taken in by him i thought he was the best thing since sliced bread on day1
Report backerman July 6, 2011 2:57 PM BST
3.00 insidious and 3.10 thunda both lays
Report Warrackhunt July 6, 2011 2:57 PM BST
Why I Am The Best Sports Trader .. Ever ..


Laugh....Mischief.....Laugh
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 6, 2011 2:59 PM BST
there he is
i thought
ud been banned
sir warrac****
i will sleep soundly
tonight now
Report cueno July 6, 2011 3:00 PM BST
its a pity you guys cant just do your own thing & stop always getting at people, if you dont like what someone says ignore it & read another thread at least he had the courage to put up what he does, you guys dont
Report ged July 6, 2011 3:07 PM BST
hasn't had the courage to appear once his lays started winning though has he?

Day 1 - zero winners - full of it - "The Best Sports Trader .. Ever .."
Day 2 - 5 winners from 20 lays - silence
Report backerman July 6, 2011 3:08 PM BST
yes cueno esn seemed like a gud bloke trying to make some money. unlike warrack .leave the guy alone nobody likes bullies they are always cowards who hide when scared
Report cueno July 6, 2011 3:10 PM BST
i try to ignore the bad mouthers backerman as they will just depress you & put you off your stratedgy, good luck today matey
Report maysoon3 July 6, 2011 3:12 PM BST
the problem is with such cases you can achieve results no better than random in the short-term (as unscientifically proven by the golden pin) which look good and can be claimed as such.

those who have been in the game more than 5 minutes have done it, or seen it done time and time again with almost guaranteed same results. as mentioned above however some folk can be taken in a bit if the thread is presented with confidence.

if the guy had came on with a line like im attempting to win £100 a week by having 4 winning days and 3 losing days it would have seemed more realistic to me.

dont think he should be slated to end of the earth but having seen it time and time again some people set themselves up a bit.

the other guy who has the "this is how to make money" thread with his martingale system, possibly wouldn't be getting stick if he was a bit more upfront (not necessarily posting lays) but accepting that its a risky strategy that could work but will 99.99999999999% involve busting large banks now and again. you can still make money if you create 1.5 banks per bank bust, but there seems no acceptance of anything other than almost printing money.

such threads are naive and misleading. no law against this but it does attract negative attention for a number of (justifiable) reasons.
Report backerman July 6, 2011 3:13 PM BST
true cueno thats why i gave the 2 lays in memory of esn if we hear from again great if not best of luck to him
Report cueno July 6, 2011 3:17 PM BST
maysoon he doesnt tll anyone to do it he is just telling people what he is doing, now i know nothing about the horses but im doing ok & its just guess work on my part, & i watch all what people say on here & most times they get it wrong as form is so strange & people all read form differently, but i never see the point in slagging someone off who is doing nothing wrong
Report cueno July 6, 2011 3:17 PM BST
i wish everyone the best of luck as weve all had terrible days that we want to forget
Report backerman July 6, 2011 3:18 PM BST
I agree you can not possibly lay in every race the system was all wrong. its the terrible remarks from some people and we all know who they are .dont you think esn will feel bad at the moment without the bullys on his back for all people know that could of been his last £100 and he may of lost everything.
Report Warrackhunt July 6, 2011 3:21 PM BST
strange how he...his numerous alter ego's have also vanished cueno?

why were they on the thread i wonder...and the wallsoon sisters?
Report maysoon3 July 6, 2011 3:25 PM BST
at least one person mentioned on the thread that they were thinking of following his tips/strategy. as far as i could see there was no cautionary words like "wait a week or two (or whatever) see how im doing then .... etc etc" it was all "15/15 etc etc"

what if it was the follower's last £100.

theres faults on both sides here
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 6, 2011 3:27 PM BST
where are his flock now?
Report mice_elf_and_eye July 6, 2011 3:29 PM BST
En Sabah Nurwhere To Be Seen
Report Rollo Tomasi July 6, 2011 7:12 PM BST
cueno,
Are you on forum classic or the new forum because I sent you a PM.
Report Warrackhunt July 6, 2011 7:47 PM BST
Love
Report greedkillsmybankagain July 6, 2011 7:50 PM BST
please send me a pm
Report bananaoasis July 6, 2011 8:01 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Warrackhunt July 6, 2011 10:40 PM BST
the walloon sisters will be appearing in panto this dec at Newcastle theatre royal.
Report rickie July 6, 2011 10:51 PM BST
Oh he lost all the money huh

think ill bypass this tactic thenPlain
Report backerman July 7, 2011 10:27 AM BST
I will go thru the card at newmarket in memory of esn. i will put selections up by 11.00
Report backerman July 7, 2011 10:39 AM BST
THESE ARE ALL LAYS.
1.20 crimson knight
1.50 north star boy
2.25 rain mac
3.00 camponologist
3.35 bellechance
4.05 casual glimpse
4.40 fol hollow.

THESE ARE NOT TIPS IM NOT EVEN LAYING THEM IM PROVING A POINT £15 LAY MAKES £105 LESS COMMISSION.I WILL PUT A END TO THIS THREAD AND END UP WITH THE LAST LAUGH
Report bornunlucky July 7, 2011 10:41 AM BST
LaughI'm glad someone's keeping the guy's memory alive backerman. Can you also do it in the same spirit as the best sports trader ever, so lots of bullsh1t and bigging yourself up, and threaten to get anyone banned who criticizes you.
Report backerman July 7, 2011 10:43 AM BST
NO i wont do that im doing what i said and going thru the card simple as
Report bornunlucky July 7, 2011 10:52 AM BST
Laugh
Report backerman July 7, 2011 11:00 AM BST
Laugh glad you are happy bornunlucky i presume you will be cheering against these selections which will make it more fun for me
Report bornunlucky July 7, 2011 11:04 AM BST
I forgot, you were one of his cheerleaders. Did your bank go the same way as his?Laugh
Report backerman July 7, 2011 11:14 AM BST
I never ever take tips from anyone on here I was simply hoping he cud make some money from people like yourself. i always thought he was doing it all wrong and told him but not in the way of the rest of the bullies on here. as was said yesterday he never gave a tip just his opinion and wasn't scared to tell everyone what he was doing. THE THING I DONT UNDERSTAND IS WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF GET PLEASURE FROM PEOPLE LOSING. we are all trying and maybe he did get a bit excited at one point . however right from his first words he was hounded by usual suspects
Report duncan idaho July 7, 2011 11:42 AM BST
''THE THING I DONT UNDERSTAND IS WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF GET PLEASURE FROM PEOPLE LOSING.''


Definition of SCHADENFREUDE
: enjoyment obtained from the troubles of others
Origin of SCHADENFREUDE
German, from Schaden damage + Freude joy
First Known Use: 1895
Report backerman July 7, 2011 1:06 PM BST
my lays for esn memory i got one non runner in the 3.35 so i will replace for citizen channel
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 1:09 PM BST
Good Luck backerman
Report backerman July 7, 2011 1:23 PM BST
first one up as expected really
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 1:26 PM BST
easy peasy
Well  done
Report backerman July 7, 2011 1:52 PM BST
2 out of 2 so far
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 1:55 PM BST
easy peasy
W/D
Report backerman July 7, 2011 2:29 PM BST
ok 3 out of 3 so far
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 2:33 PM BST
easy peasy
Well  done
Report backerman July 7, 2011 3:08 PM BST
4 out of 4 so far
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 3:10 PM BST
Very  easy  peasy
Very  well  done
Report drdr July 7, 2011 3:17 PM BST
mungo park
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 3:29 PM BST
backerman

you should do this  daily
see  how much  profit
you make untill  you hit one
Report backerman July 7, 2011 3:36 PM BST
ok 5 out of 5 now.
no lampus not my style really back to win most of the time
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 3:39 PM BST
W/D  anyhow
Report backerman July 7, 2011 4:09 PM BST
6 out of 6 one to go
Report Lampus July 7, 2011 4:12 PM BST
easy peasy
W/D
Report backerman July 7, 2011 4:41 PM BST
well thats 7 out of 7 job done in memory of esn. its a shame i never laid any of them it was just a point proving excercise showing the doubters it can be done and now i hope this is the end of the thread.all the bullys who forced esn away never arrived today for one reason only they were hiding waiting to pounce if any of them won.
Report cueno July 7, 2011 4:44 PM BST
well said backerman
Report ged July 7, 2011 4:45 PM BST
I don't think anyone doubts that you can "go through the card" laying horses at double figure prices.

But when someone (ie ESN) bigs himself for doing it once, calling himself "The Best Sports Trader..Ever..", then falls flat on his face the next day when he lays 5 winners out of 20, he's only getting what he deserves.
Report kennysbackintown July 7, 2011 6:13 PM BST
backerman you have proved nothing en sabur nur came back after 1 day claiming he was the best sports trader ever,15 out of 15 your 8 lays short plus you must come back tommorow.If you want to salute him you should come back tommorow an lay at least 4 winners 1 being 16-1 then you will truly do it in his memoryLaugh
Report bornunlucky July 8, 2011 9:54 AM BST
Backerman, you're even further away from ESN's 'achievements'. His first 20 lays (5 from day 2) were successful, so youve got some way to go. You don't say what point you were trying to prove but so far its zilch.

For a start, at least get to ESN's 20 lays. Then after that we can see if youre capable of making consistent money from laying, over say, 1 month. Forget ESN's £100 a day, lets make it a more modest 50.

Also agree with ged. I'm all for people putting up their lays, I said so on ESN's day 1 thread, but when they start saying how great they are and using aliases to support them they deserve all the stick they get.
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 12:22 PM BST
Please  backerman  put up some lays  today Grin

You made it look  so  easy  yesterday
Report backerman July 8, 2011 1:00 PM BST
NEWMARKET LAYS
Just for fun again not laying any of them.

1. 1.20 admirable sprit
2. 1.50 steps
3. 2.25 caledonia lady
4. 3.00 maqaasid
5. 3.35 almuftarris
6. 4.10 strategic bid
7. 5.20 barney rebel
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 1:20 PM BST
Many  thanks

Good Luck
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 1:24 PM BST
easy  peasy
thank you
Report backerman July 8, 2011 1:25 PM BST
1 out of 1
Report backerman July 8, 2011 1:53 PM BST
ok 2 out of 2
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 1:54 PM BST
easy peasy
Thanks

come on 3/3
Report backerman July 8, 2011 2:29 PM BST
3 out of 3
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 2:33 PM BST
Well  done
easy peasy
come on4/4
Report backerman July 8, 2011 3:02 PM BST
ok 4 out of 4
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 3:08 PM BST
easy peasy
come on5/5
Report backerman July 8, 2011 3:39 PM BST
5 out of 5
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 3:41 PM BST
Well Done
come on 6/6
Report backerman July 8, 2011 4:14 PM BST
ok 6 out of 6
Report backerman July 8, 2011 5:01 PM BST
it will be 7 out of 7 but gotta go out now. 14 winning lays on the bounce only for paper excercise and now no more.
Report Lampus July 8, 2011 5:56 PM BST
Well done
please again tomorrow
then no more  if you  mustSad
Thank you
Report backerman July 8, 2011 6:03 PM BST
away for a few days be back on wednesday
Report backerman July 9, 2011 9:22 AM BST
2 lays before i set off on a break for a few days.
1. 3.15 pekan star
2. 3.35 delegator
both favs that wont be winning imo
Report Lampus July 9, 2011 9:54 AM BST
OONoooooooooooo
i have backed Pekan StarCry
Report backerman July 9, 2011 5:04 PM BST
2 out of 2 today now im off  c u wednesday
Report backerman July 13, 2011 9:23 AM BST
let me know lampus if you would like wednesdays lay selections off for game of golf now but will have on by 12 if you like
Report backerman July 13, 2011 11:48 AM BST
LINGFIELD
2.30 marcus antonius
3.00 sir randolf
3.30 no bet  but dont like hills horse
4.00 white sprit
4.30 cloudy start
5.00 pippas gift

UTTOXETER
2.10 dunshane
2.40 marc of brilla
3.10 the dukes speech
3.40 ely brown
4.10 walls way
4.40 elsafear


GOOD LUCK IF YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW MY SELCTIONS
Report backerman July 13, 2011 2:14 PM BST
ok 1 out of 1
Report backerman July 13, 2011 2:37 PM BST
2 out of 2
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 2:40 PM BST
Thanks
just seen them
Report backerman July 13, 2011 2:44 PM BST
ok 3 out of 3
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 2:45 PM BST
easy peasy
come on 4/4
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 3:02 PM BST
easy peasy
come on 5/5
Report backerman July 13, 2011 3:03 PM BST
4 out of 4
Report backerman July 13, 2011 3:15 PM BST
ok 5 out of 5
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 3:17 PM BST
W/D
Report backerman July 13, 2011 3:44 PM BST
6 out of 6
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 3:46 PM BST
easy peasy
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 3:47 PM BST
you should called youerself  LayermanBlush
Report backerman July 13, 2011 3:50 PM BST
just hope i can get full house again that wud make it 4 full days and 27 winning bets
Report backerman July 13, 2011 4:02 PM BST
ok 7 out of 7
Report Lampus July 13, 2011 4:04 PM BST
W/D
Report backerman July 13, 2011 4:16 PM BST
8 out of 8
Report backerman July 13, 2011 4:32 PM BST
ok 9 out of 9
Report backerman July 13, 2011 4:45 PM BST
it had to end sometime
Report backerman July 13, 2011 5:09 PM BST
10 out of 11
Report backerman July 13, 2011 5:11 PM BST
26 out of 27 so not to bad
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