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dambuster
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Saratoga skiddy and Old man dimplex.?remember them as a kid.
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Report casemoney May 1, 2023 11:53 PM BST
Proud Tarquin Was a Kid had 50 p Ew in the Whitbread , was gutted when Discoed ,Think was 14-1
Report casemoney May 1, 2023 11:54 PM BST
The Dikler got the race  , Ron Barry on it if i remember Correctly, Oaksey was on Proud
Report brians May 1, 2023 11:54 PM BST
The great Wyndburgh, unluckiest horse never to win a national. Crisp, who ran himself to a standstill in the National, only to be caught on the line by the weight receiving Red Rum.  Mill House , another great chaser unlucky enough to be often in the same race as Arkle.
Report jackboo May 2, 2023 5:47 AM BST
tingle creek
Report Smoky Hill May 2, 2023 7:23 AM BST
Parmako Prince was the other New Zealand bred horse that was trained by Derek Kent.
Report airto May 2, 2023 7:55 AM BST
Anyone remember a horse called The Ghost? Chaser, started off the season in low grade h'caps, ended up (though memory may not be at all accurate) either being placed, or even winning The Whitbread Gold Cup, after a series of easy h'cap wins saw it shoot up the ratings. Maybe a similar sort of profile to Hunt Ball in more recent times. Must have been 1960s / 1970s, but can't be more specific than that.
Report geoff m May 2, 2023 8:28 AM BST
My first memories/awareness of racehorses was the Queen mothers National Hunt horses back in the 60s ,as mentioned earlier Escalus others where Makaldar & Black Magic.Trained by Peter Cazalet & ridden by David Mould.
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 8:29 AM BST
Pretty sure I have mentioned The Ghost on here before.

Foaled in 1965 he was an ex-pointer who had one very good season 1971/72. Pretty sure after that he suffered some sort of freak accident and lost his life.

In that good year he beat a decent handicapper in Alu Alu at Wincanton, then took the Fred Withington beating the likes of The Spaniard and Well To Do, and the Kim Muir at the Festival beating Kinloch Brae who was trying to concede 10lbs. As a result he started favourite for one of the best ever Whitbread's but could make no significant impact under Andy Turnell. Quite likely that before his demise he would have been a leading fancy for the National. He was trained in that final season by Vernon Cross.
Report paulo47 May 2, 2023 8:40 AM BST
First ever bookmaker bet , Patent - Quintina , Good Prospect (once ridden by HRH ) and one other , all won (apologies for aftertiming but it was 1962 (?).
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 9:02 AM BST
does anyone remember a horse called vilgora around 1977 steve perks rode the horse to win at i think newbury ?
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 9:03 AM BST
paulo i remember good prospect he was much later than 1962
Report paulo47 May 2, 2023 9:54 AM BST
You are right Jimnast , age has caught up with me , bet was later for sure though first bookmaker bet was around 1962 , though the old man let me have a tanner on Come to Daddy (Joe Sime) in the 1959 Cesarewitch .
Report ribero1 May 2, 2023 9:55 AM BST
Vilgora must have been one of Reg's Jimnast?
Report TommyWestofLanark May 2, 2023 9:58 AM BST
Barstool.I'm sure you're correct that The Birdman also won at Lanark as he ran in several races in Scotland. The race I mentioned was Hamilton though. He was really on his toes in the paddock and the jockey (I think Lowe) was having trouble restraining him. I agree with your points regarding tipsters at that time. I tended to go with the advice of The Scout and the great Peter O'Sullevan in the Scottish Daily Express pullout section. Great days.Happy
Report TommyWestofLanark May 2, 2023 10:00 AM BST
Could be wrong but I think Vilgora was trained by Bill Marshall.
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 11:27 AM BST
Not sure ribero but quite possibly,I seem to remember the horse been around 14/1 and think it as Newbury.
Report formoftheace May 2, 2023 11:50 AM BST
Shotgun,Souix and Souix……the list is endless
Report sageform May 2, 2023 12:28 PM BST
what a good horse Good Prospect was. I remember a 3 mile handicap hurdle at the April meeting at Cheltenham when he and Garliestown (with a 7lb claimer making the weight difference more than 2 stone) racing head to head for the last circuit and Garliestown won a head. John Edwards was a very good trainer as was Martin Tate who trained the winner. My first bet at Cheltenham (aged about 11) was a tote forecast Lochroe to beat Bob tailed 'un, the last horse that I ever saw run with a docked tail. It came up and I had to recruit an adult to collect my winnings from a very strict tote window lady.
Report CagliariG May 2, 2023 1:00 PM BST
Yesterday at Bath seemed to reflect on the old rogue Ubedizzy when Havana Goldrush tried to bite Eye Of The Water!!
Report Mr Myxlplyx May 2, 2023 1:20 PM BST
the old rogue Ubedizzy amazing he was still racing, as I believe he nipped off one of his groom's fingers.
Report Mr Myxlplyx May 2, 2023 1:34 PM BST
Actually this website may be of assistance to fill in details for those attending memory clinics Laugh

https://www.pedigreequery.com/falls+of+cruachan

Fill in your own beast. I had searched for Falls of Cruachan, a chaser I was allowed a tanner on if we were at Ayr, with Gerry Scott up if memory serves. Ergo my '1/-' on Merryman in the National. (spot the teaser Laugh )

https://sites.google.com/site/jockeypedia/scott-gerry
Report casemoney May 2, 2023 2:11 PM BST
Inkslinger ,Soothsayer ,Two great American chasers to make there mark in England
Report casemoney May 2, 2023 2:21 PM BST
Inkslinger won the Queen Mother  in 73  ,Crisp was 3rd before nearly winning the National a couple of weeks Later . Did Inkslinger win Twice at  the Same Cheltenham Meeting ?
Report Hayden May 2, 2023 2:30 PM BST
Soothsayer split Ten Up & Bula in the Cheltenham Gold Cup but was as much a 20f horse if i remember rightly.
Report casemoney May 2, 2023 2:32 PM BST
Great Old names , were so many decent horses
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 2:34 PM BST
Yes, I think Inkslinger won a Cathcart as well.
Report airto May 2, 2023 2:37 PM BST
Remember a couple of very useful 2 mile chasers by the names of Into View and News King, both around at the same time (70s / 80s). One of them (can't remember which one) was a right tricky customer, and refused to race on more than one occasion. When it did decide to do so, more often than not it won.
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 2:42 PM BST
1973 Cathcart Tommy carberry
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 2:44 PM BST
Airto remember news king he was a good horse can’t remember into view maybe he was a few years earlier.
Report Lee Ho Fooks May 2, 2023 2:47 PM BST
Long memory required (and probably an unforgettable horse to boot). Sparrow Pie - looking for any info as it's this nag which I can blame for getting me into horse racing/betting probably the early 60's.
Report Lee Ho Fooks May 2, 2023 2:50 PM BST
^^^ oops! That should definitely be forgettable
Report Hayden May 2, 2023 2:50 PM BST
Remember Into View trained by Fred Winter and was a pretty prolific winning chaser.

Recollection of it winning a terrestrial TV race literally from the clouds , one of the unlikeliest winners ever and 1000 if the exchange existed.
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 2:56 PM BST
Into View was a high class chaser who started joint favourite for the 1971 Gold Cup.

He started off by winning an Oteley Hurdle (beating Salmon Spray) at 50/1. He won 12 out of his first 16 races over fences before having leg issues after which he wasn't the same again. I think he eventually returned as a hunter chaser for Jenny Pitman, but didn't win.

He also won these races:-

Welsh Champion Novice Chase
Heinz Chase
Black & White Gold Cup
Geoffrey Gilbey
Fulwell Chase
Fairlawne Chase
Hermitage Chase

He had a decent change of pace, and was best on flat tracks. Cheltenham didn't suit.
Report Hayden May 2, 2023 2:58 PM BST
Happy
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 3:03 PM BST
Quite a bit earlier than news king then ,never even heard of the Welsh champion chase,would it be the one anaglogs daughter won at Chepstow on her way home from Cheltenham?
Report airto May 2, 2023 3:11 PM BST
Can't find any online info about the Welsh Champion Chase, except that I know my beloved Border Incident, my all time favourite horse, won it in 1979 (2 1/2 miles, I think)
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 3:17 PM BST
Yes, it was an end of season  target race in those days, but usually small fields.

Into View's best win was probably the Black & White where he beat Leap Frog and Glencaraig Lady, but the race was over two miles. He gave Fortina's Palace 16lbs in the Geoffrey Gilbey, and the field also included The Laird, Bighorn, Young Ash Leaf and Royal Toss. Safe to say one of the better renewals. He won the Hermitage beating Spanish Steps a short head, one of earliest races I can remember.
Report Hayden May 2, 2023 3:19 PM BST
We've had a previous conversation airto regarding having the same fav horse of all time , as i recall   Happy
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 3:20 PM BST
Anyone help me with one.

Easby Abbey was a very tough high class handicapper who progressed up the ranks to be placed in a Champion Hurdle. Very effective at Doncaster.

Did he lose his life having just started a chasing career?
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 3:27 PM BST
Remember the horse dd and the Doncaster bit sounds right but don’t know what happened to him
Report geoff m May 2, 2023 5:19 PM BST
Not sure about him losing his life having just started his chasing career. As i do recall him winning either Massey Ferguson/ Mackeson get them mixed up in mid 70s with a big weight .So must have been a 2nd season chaser @ least.
Report jimnast May 2, 2023 5:26 PM BST
1975 Massey Ferguson Geoff great recall ,I just looked it up,to be honest it’s not even the easby I was thinking off.
Report differentdrum May 2, 2023 5:47 PM BST
So that was the 75/76 season, and he probably was a novice chaser the previous season. Horses used to run more in those days, but unlikely he would have had even 10 runs over fences by the time of that Massey Ferguson win. Question is what happened to him afterwards.
Report tobermory May 2, 2023 8:02 PM BST
Long memory required (and probably an unforgettable horse to boot). Sparrow Pie - looking for any info as it's this nag which I can blame for getting me into horse racing/betting probably the early 60's.

Saturday, June 15th, 1963

SPARROW PIE ENHANCES ASCOT CHANCE WITH H.Q. WIN

Sparrow Pie and Der Ring, two Royal Hunt Cup hopes for Ascot next Wednesday, ran in the Mile Milton Handicap at Newmarket to-day.
  Although Der Ring came with a strong run in the final stages, top weight Sparrow Pie, who had taken up the running three furlongs out, held on gamely to win by threequarters of a length.
Trainer G. Barling said that Sparrow Pie would trake his chance in the Royal Hunt Cup, despite a 6lb penalty.
Report tobermory May 2, 2023 8:04 PM BST
^
it was a non runner in the Hunt Cup
Report onlooker May 2, 2023 8:14 PM BST
jimnast and ribero

Vilgora was trained by - A 'Monty' Stevens

Vilgora was a reasonably popular Handicap Sprinter - unsurprisingly, given the connotation of his name - being a son of Raffingora

Best season was as a 4-yr-old in 1976, with multiple wins

I would need to look up the individual races, though
Report ribero1 May 2, 2023 8:36 PM BST
Thanks Onlooker,as soon as I saw Steve Perks I immediately thought of Reg!
Report sageform May 2, 2023 8:52 PM BST
The first time I attended Royal Ascot in 1965, I saw Goldhill win the Kings Stand Stakes. I was very much in the cheap seats as a student at the time. I think Lester rode it but I can't find the full result online.
Report Lee Ho Fooks May 2, 2023 9:08 PM BST
^^^ Wow! Thanks tobermory, I'm impressed. What year would that have been please? (my guess wold be 1964 or 1965)
Report tobermory May 2, 2023 9:24 PM BST
1963, Saturday, June 15th
Report madhatter May 2, 2023 9:57 PM BST
Ballyhoara Hill and Catsgore



Dr Crippen    22 Feb 11:38



Madhatter.
Ballyhoara Hill:
Won a 3 mile novice chase at Chepstow Saturday 17 March 1973.
He was fifth with no chance when Solid Gold, Tinkers Green, Master Samson and Cintrah, all fell at the last fence leaving him clear.
Won 20 lengths 5/4 favourite.
Catsgore:
Led tenth till fell last at Newbury 3 mile h/cap hurdle Friday 1 March 1974.
Won by Mac’s Birthday 6/1 favourite with Rossmon 2nd
I have got form the formbooks Madhatter, but I don’t know anywhere else that you can get the info from.

    






madhatter    22 Feb 12:29



Dr Crippen - Thank you so much for this.

That is just the info I was looking for (although I think Catsgore fell when clear at the last on several occasions?). The Ballyhoara Hill race was on telly so must have been part of the ITV & or the old BBC Triella...there's one that hasn't been mentioned on this thread yet!

I doubt that the film still exists but I will never forget it....four horses all falling at the last to leave the distant fifth to win it!

Mad.

    






madhatter    22 Feb 12:33



Yes Glover was in Kes, and in the Pub scene in American Werewolf in London and in Alien 3 and he famously did the voice over for the Hovis advert (kid walking up cobbled street pushing his bike - ''nowt taken out'') and and countless other appearances...a great character actor.

God, I sound like I'm really old..............but I'm only 46!

Mad.

    






HENRY the Seventh    22 Feb 12:49



Brian Glover also played Bottom in the BBC version of Shakespeare`s comedy play, A Midsummer Night`s Dream. He got kissed and cuddled by Titania, played by a lovely young Helen Mirren.

For the information of "grappling fans" commentator Kent Walton, a canadian, was a disc jockey before becoming the voice of professional wrestling. I think he later married into serious money and became a kept man. What a good idea.

    






Dr Crippen    22 Feb 13:15



You are right about Catsgore madhatter, in his previous race at Wincanton in a 2m 5f chase he had done the same thing, falling at the last when in the lead. In fact when he fell at Newbury that made five times on the trot where he had fallen or unseated his rider. It didn’t seem to bother him though, because he won another seven races in the following seasons.
Report madhatter May 2, 2023 10:01 PM BST
Part of a conversation with a fellow forumite from 18 years ago!!!

Another one I loved was called Firefright....ran mostly over 10f i think, always tailed off early and then finished like a train...
Can't remember anything else about it but my dad religously backed it every time it ran!
Report TommyWestofLanark May 2, 2023 10:02 PM BST
Sageform.I'm not 100% sure but think Jimmy Etherington rode Goldhill in the Kings Stand.
Report Lee Ho Fooks May 2, 2023 10:06 PM BST
Re my 2nd question to tobermory......

I've just re-read his first post CryCryCry
Report CagliariG May 2, 2023 10:12 PM BST
A little nudge to the memory is remembered tomorrow at Ascot i.e Sagaro,a great stayer of the era,I seem to remember backing Buckskin to beat him a couple of times,in vain probably.Memories not so clear tbh.

Also remember backing a horse called Mrspurplepeopleater either late December 76 or early Jan 77,in Liverpool for a couple of days R & R from the Sir Galahad,Victoria docks,lost I think,just like certain songs some races/horses can remind you of particular events or places when otherwise they would perhaps be lost.
Report ronnie rails May 2, 2023 11:02 PM BST
Meladon and Carligford Castle first winner i backed at the festival and the royal meeting backed them both with Fred Binns though this game is easy .
Done more tanks than Romell since.

Ronnie.
Report tobermory May 2, 2023 11:51 PM BST

May 2, 2023 -- 4:06PM, Lee Ho Fooks wrote:


Re my 2nd question to tobermory......I've just re-read his first post


Seems Sparrow Pie was a 2YO in 1961 and was still around in '64, '65 as you thought. Just that one article mentioning him I found as he was a decent handicapper seemingly, who was aimed at the bigger ones rather than a classy horse

Report tobermory May 3, 2023 1:38 AM BST
The first time I attended Royal Ascot in 1965, I saw Goldhill win the Kings Stand Stakes. I was very much in the cheap seats as a student at the time. I think Lester rode it but I can't find the full result online.

Tommy West was correct

King's Stand Stakes, June 18th, 1965 - £2,050

5:30

1st - Goldhill 10/1 - M H Easterby/Etherington
2nd - Spaniard's Mount 100/30 - F N Winter/D Smith
3rd - Golden Apollo 50/1 - A Smyth/ J Mercer

11 ran - fav Merry Madcap 11/8 Maxwell/Piggott

Dist: 4l & 1 1/2l
Report sparrow May 3, 2023 6:51 AM BST
I remember Goldhill along with Althrey Don, Dondeen and Daylight Robbery in that same era.
Report jimnast May 3, 2023 7:26 AM BST
Good morning onlooker

Thanks for the info on vilgora I think the race I remember is early season 1977
Report sageform May 3, 2023 7:43 AM BST
Thanks tobermory. My defective memory must have mixed it up with another year. Didn't Jack Ormston train a winner with Lester riding? My only record book only goes back to 1965 so it could have been 63 or 64.
Report sparrow May 3, 2023 8:03 AM BST
sageform 03 May 23 07:43 
Thanks tobermory. My defective memory must have mixed it up with another year. Didn't Jack Ormston train a winner with Lester riding? My only record book only goes back to 1965 so it could have been 63 or 64.






Majority Rule the 1963 winner was ridden by Piggott and for some reason the race did not take place in 1964.
Report Lee Ho Fooks May 3, 2023 9:23 AM BST
Not run in 1964 due to waterlogged course
Report workrider May 3, 2023 12:32 PM BST
Trillium 3.50 Ascot , I seem to remember a horse of that name back in the early 70s think it was trained by Ian Balding anyone confirm either way...
Report Hayden May 3, 2023 12:49 PM BST
Certainly remember that horse workrider but couldn't swear who trained it , possibly Dunlop or Hobbs  ??
Report Hayden May 3, 2023 1:01 PM BST
TheAnorak15 Jul 22 15:29Joined: 28 Oct 01 | Topic/replies: 4,386 | Blogger: TheAnorak's blog
Er, 'she' was a gelding according to Timeform. Originally trained by Harvey Leader, Pritchard-Gordon took over in 1972, when Trillium was a 6-y-old.

Best win in 1972 was the 5F handicap at the Epsom Derby meeting.
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Trillium was a gelding, and not that small. Trained by Harvey Leader for first three racing seasons thence Pritchard-Gordon. Raced from age 3 'til the age of 10.  Very useful handicapper and regularly won three or four good handicaps a season from age four 'til eight.   Won at Goodwood too OnlookerCool

ged27 Jul 22 16:07Joined: 09 Jan 03 | Topic/replies: 11,132 | Blogger: ged's blog
Gavid Pritchard-Gordon renamed his stables Trillium Place (it was originally called Graham Place), so presumably won a few bob on him. David Simcock trains there now. The horse was a fast starter - Pat Eddery rode him, and said he had to be careful not to fall out the back as he left the stalls.
Report onlooker May 3, 2023 1:48 PM BST
Hayden - Whenever I see the name Trillium - I always instantly think - Bruce Hobbs, too ...

Even though, I remember your above reproduced post from last year - too. Happy
Report workrider May 3, 2023 1:49 PM BST
Thanks Hayden , brought back some memories there..
Report blackbarn May 3, 2023 2:00 PM BST
Onlookwe - it could be all those T's trained by Hobbs for Cambanis that triggers the memory.
Report TommyWestofLanark May 3, 2023 2:11 PM BST
Sageform. I don't recall Jack Ormston having a winner at Royal Ascot around that time. You may have been thinking of Roughlyn trained in the north winning the Kings Stand.
Report sparrow May 3, 2023 2:53 PM BST
Well who trained Majority Rule the 1963 winner ridden by Piggott?
Report sparrow May 3, 2023 2:58 PM BST
Found it now......1963 King's Stand Stakes MAJORITY RULE 100/8 owned by John Muldoon, trained by Paddy O'Gorman and ridden by Lester Piggott




The point being that the horse won in 1963 and was ridden by Piggott as the poster has said.
Report brians May 3, 2023 3:29 PM BST
Horse running today called Trillium , seem to remember a horse of the same name who was pretty useful. Remember him / her winning at York around 1961 . I was 10. !
Report brians May 3, 2023 3:30 PM BST
Trillium is a flower apparently.
Report brians May 3, 2023 3:31 PM BST
Sorry workrider, just noticed your post on trillium.
Report dambuster May 3, 2023 3:43 PM BST
Anyone remember a horse called Blustery ? i had 5 bob ew for The Lincoln when i was about 7, it won.
I think Dennis Mckay rode it ?
Report blackbarn May 3, 2023 3:57 PM BST
Trillium Grandiflorum - three petals and three leaves!
Report the bairn May 3, 2023 4:24 PM BST
sotlands' only classic winner was. cheers.
Report blackbarn May 3, 2023 4:34 PM BST
Rockavon
Report Shalimah May 3, 2023 5:04 PM BST
Vilgora won the Temple stakes 1977
Report the bairn May 3, 2023 5:12 PM BST
correct blackbarn, I bet a horse called Linacre, I am sure it was in around 1965 in the Eclipse trained by P Prendergast and ridden by B Bougoure , it ran 2nd but can't remember what beat it, can anyone make me the wiser. cheers.
Report ged May 3, 2023 5:25 PM BST
For fans of Into View (and Bula), here's the film of him winning that race at Sandown where he came from being tailed off in a 5-runner race to getting up on the line. It's the second of 2 races shown in the piece- the first is the valuable hcap hurdle where Bulaq passed 10 horses from the 2nd last to keep his unbeaten record (13 from 13 I think) under 12 stone plus. Both ridden by Paul Kellewway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FkTtsrDsoA&ab_channel=TIMETRAVELLER1955
Report onlooker May 3, 2023 5:38 PM BST
1965 Eclipse Stakes was Won by - Canisbay - Trained by Cecil Boy-Rochfort - and ridden by Stan Clayton.

George Todd's - Roan Rocket  was 2nd - Linacre did not run in the race.

Garnie Bougoure had Won the Eclipse for the 2 previous years for Paddy Prendergast - notably on Ragusa in 1964

Linacre Won the Irish 2000 Guineas - Cannot find it Placed in an Eclipse.
Report differentdrum May 3, 2023 5:46 PM BST
Bula was making it 9/9 when taking that Benson & Hedges Handicap beating Moyne Royal a short head conceding 12lbs. The likes of Normandy and Coral Diver were also in the field, and Coral Diver was actually trying to concede Bula a pound.
Report Hayden May 3, 2023 5:47 PM BST
That's a great find Ged and almost as i remember watching it.

Think you'd have got 1000 for that one no problem.
Report ged May 3, 2023 5:49 PM BST
differentdrum - thanks.

the bairn - Linacre was twice 2nd in the Champion Stakes, both times to a French winner of an English Guineas - the filly Hula Dancer in 1963 and the colt Baldric II in 1964. He was by the same sire, Rockefella, as Rockavon. Rockefella didn't achieve a whole lot on the racecourse, but he was the only offspring of the outstanding filly Rockfel, and had much greater influence at stud, being the damsire of Sharpen Up, who in turn sired Kris, Diesis and Keen.
Report onlooker May 3, 2023 5:55 PM BST
blackbarn - You are correct -

I must always think that Trillium is part of the famous Stilvi line - that produced the likes of -Tromos and Tolmi.
Report Hayden May 3, 2023 6:21 PM BST
Yes Hobbs always sticks in my mind all stemming from the Sleeping Partner days for Lord Roseberry when i was a very under age punter.

Still got a clip somewhere of Julian Wilson & Jimmy Lindley debating a difference of opinion as to which was the best filly following Cry of Truth & Lady Rowley winning at Goodwood.
Report the bairn May 3, 2023 9:22 PM BST
onlooker and Ged, brilliant replies, your information brings back golden memories of some great horses and jockeys. thank you. cheers
Report geoff m May 3, 2023 9:41 PM BST
MENTIONING  Hobbs .The 1st Saturday meeting i ever visited was 1975 Magnet Cup won by Hobbs Jolly Good ridden by Willie Carson off a light weight. Hobbs had the 1st & 2nd if memory serves correct with CHil The Kite probably ridden by geoff baxter. I could be mistaken but Chil The Kite may well have been owned by Lord Roseberry.  Whilst on the subject of Bruce Hobbs he had the 2nd hoss called Stop The Music in the maiden won by Wollow on his debut >never amounted to much and ended up running in selling hurdles for Uttoxeter based Bill Clay.
Report blackbarn May 3, 2023 10:19 PM BST
Geoff - My old favourite Mr Bigmore was second in Jolly Good's Magnet Cup Win. I dont know if Jolly Good and Chil the Kite ever met; they were both top class handicappers. The latter was owned by Lady Rosebery - Primrose with Rose sleeves, very ladylike colours although same colourway as Mr Primrose!!
Report workrider May 3, 2023 10:55 PM BST
The Bairn, when I was a student in the I.N.S. in 1971 Linacre was one of the Stallions , if I remember correctly we also had Tudor Music, Whistling Wind , who stood alongside him .
Report blackbarn May 4, 2023 8:34 AM BST
Good memory workrider. Linacre £250 plus a guinea for the groom. Tudor Music was £1000 and Whistling Wind £500. Also standing were Lord Gayle at £850 and Giolla Mear at £150.
Report geoff m May 4, 2023 8:47 AM BST
Thanx for reply Blackbarn: I should have remembered as Onlooker furnished me with the following back in 2012!!:

CHIL THE KITE

Finished 5th in the Magnet Cup - to ...

JOLLY GOOD - 7st 8lb - Willie Carson
Mr Bigmore - 7st 3lb - Richard Fox*5
Prominent - 8st 7lb - Ian Johnson*5
Calaba - 9st 3lb - L Piggott.

Jolly Good trained by Bruce Hobbs.

CHIL THE KITE - then-
Won Charlton Handicap - at Glorious Goodwood.- and -

Rose of York Handicap - at the Ebor meeting - from
Touch of Gold, and Gloss.
Report workrider May 4, 2023 10:10 AM BST
Blackbarn,Athene the dam of Rhinegold visited Tudor Music in 1972/73 not sure the foal was a huge success.
Report dambuster May 4, 2023 12:03 PM BST

May 4, 2023 -- 2:47AM, geoff m wrote:


Thanx for reply Blackbarn: I should have remembered as Onlooker furnished me with the following back in 2012!!:CHIL THE KITEFinished 5th in the Magnet Cup - to ...JOLLY GOOD - 7st 8lb - Willie CarsonMr Bigmore - 7st 3lb - Richard Fox*5Prominent - 8st 7lb - Ian Johnson*5Calaba - 9st 3lb - L Piggott.Jolly Good trained by Bruce Hobbs.CHIL THE KITE - then-Won Charlton Handicap - at Glorious Goodwood.- and -Rose of York Handicap - at the Ebor meeting - fromTouch of Gold, and Gloss.


Glosss wasn't that Walwyn and Eddery ?

Report Hayden May 4, 2023 1:28 PM BST
Seem to recall Gloss involved in that Queen Anne race at Royal Ascot when the first three were disqualified , wasn't it the big grey horse first past the post that day ?
Report blackbarn May 4, 2023 1:39 PM BST
Gloss finished second to Confusion apprpriately, Royal ???? was third with the grey Brook finishing 4th awarded the race.
Report Hayden May 4, 2023 1:48 PM BST
Thanks blackbarn , was just going on memory.

Royal Prerogative just came to me as placed.
Report Hayden May 4, 2023 1:57 PM BST
Here's the recording of that race , 1974 opening race at Royal Ascot.

Unreal the front three disqualified and funny to see Brook ambling through a mile back in 4th to eventually get the race.

https://www.facebook.com/AscotRacecourse/videos/1974-queen-anne-stakes-brook-declared-winner/511180313406941/
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