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Apologist
23 Mar 11 14:42
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100,000 down.

A C4 Spokesman '..due to bad weather in the winter and horse less well known...'




No you stupid oaf.

Look at the way you present and  some of your, self-congratulating, tired, gravy-train, inept presenters.

Let Hoiles, Ted Walsh and Holt lead the attack. Get rid of those that are there because they are married to him/her, were - proven corrupt - riders in the 70s or want to be Irish (Hic Al)



A Production company so far up it's own harris it refuses to look at itself for blame.
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Report jonnyrotten March 23, 2011 1:44 PM GMT
c4 wants to drop racing so this adds to the cause
Report Can't Catch Me March 23, 2011 1:46 PM GMT
They are going to do whatever it takes to get it moved to a Saturday unfortunately Sad
Report MJK March 23, 2011 1:47 PM GMT
Agree. Everyone assumes we all love Ted cause were Irish. Not all of us do. As for the rest of them it's cringeworthy at the best of times. Totally sick of watching races from the car camera as well. I thought that that was originally only for replays. You've no idea what's going on behind the leaders most of the time. Of course many of us have put forward suggestions on here over the last couple of years but they couldn't care less what punters think.
Report know all March 23, 2011 1:49 PM GMT
lord oaksey stayed 20 years after he should have done, francs and co are safe yet for another 30 years at least
Report howard March 23, 2011 1:50 PM GMT
Maybe its due to punters having less money and then not watching without a bet on.
Report unbiased March 23, 2011 1:59 PM GMT
Don't forget that to the non- racing  crowd Chelts is just a raceday and the Gold Cup is just a race over fences,in some minds no different from a basic Saturday.
Report swift-tuttle March 23, 2011 2:06 PM GMT
As the years go by, the percentage of people that find horse racing (and odds) totally incomprehensible increases.
Report ph. March 23, 2011 2:07 PM GMT
minority sport for media purposes,recent shenanigans and supposed transparency on machine show the game to be a cheats charter for any newbies.TBF Ch4 coverage is no more than a jolly for all involved,it doesn't help or assist viewers/punters with the arty shots,close ups that exclude the rest of the field and pundits who add little more than the likes of Money tree and Soldato!
Report unbiased March 23, 2011 2:08 PM GMT
Trying to explain that odds are NOT complex to an outsider is a waste of time.Saying £4 wins £7 always gets the reply"But I want to put a fiver on"!!! End of!!
Report jock1953 March 23, 2011 2:09 PM GMT
lord oaksley ,,,, think i remember him ,, he did a few commentries didnt he ,,,  half way through    tut tut   stutter stutter  ,and the winner is   mm  mm  mm
Report unbiased March 23, 2011 2:19 PM GMT
Compare racing with cricket.Very hard to change people's image of cricket ,even though the one-day stuff and 20/20 has transformed the game.Non racing people still think that I know the winner of every race,because I follow it.Hard to change images .Same as the non-racing and racing ,for that  matter,public still trot out"you never see a poor bookie".A trip to the car park would do them good.
Report old ace March 23, 2011 2:29 PM GMT
the morning line is just a pure embarrasment , racing would be better off without it
Report Blackwater March 23, 2011 2:35 PM GMT
I'm one of the 100,000 who tuned out this year. And fractional odds had nothing to do with it.

-The corruption in the sport has become too obvious. It's plainly futile getting involved without a marked card.

-The sheer quantity of bad racing day after day, week after week, would erode anyone's enthusiasm for the sport.

-The Channel 4 presentation is so self-serving, so stale, so insider-ish and uncritical that it's annoying to watch.
Report unbiased March 23, 2011 3:05 PM GMT
Someone like Andy Gray would shake up the Morning Line,although not sure he knows anything about racing.More hard-biting approach needed.
Report dambuster March 23, 2011 3:28 PM GMT
I WOULD PRESENT THE MORNING LINE WITH..
McCIRRICK..for the entertainment.
THE HEAD OF LADCROOKS..for the lies.
BARNEY CURLEY...for the truth..
TANYA .........for the exchanges.
JIMBO McGRATH..for the analysis...
NICOLE GRAVES..for the glamour...
This would make the people tune in..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 23, 2026 3:29 PM GMT
c4 wants to drop racing
Report john42 March 23, 2026 4:25 PM GMT
It dosen't help there are no real equine stars, most horses don't have a following because they run twice a year at the most, I have followed racing for 50 years and worked in the industry, I always watch the big meetings, but very rarely do I look forward to watching a horse run.
Report leif March 23, 2026 5:25 PM GMT
^^^
Grin
Report top2rated March 23, 2026 5:38 PM GMT
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps March 23, 2026 5:42 PM GMT
bring back cons hill eh john?
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