Hi there. thats the money saved,the studying done,i,m ready to go. going to set a £500 a day challenge from £5k bank.a tall order you may think but we,ll see how it goes. i,ve saved hard for this and want to make it work, but not to concerned if it goes. mixture of backing/laying/dutching etc.feel free to contribute and any help appreciated. the mrs away out now, been sitting all day like i was waiting to open my christmas presents. here we go, onwards and upwards.
1rst bet:laying the lady at pontefract 100 at 2.46 liability 146
actual p/l and thread p/l miles apart Johnny.....thread in danger of getting pulled given how 12 has lost it...one last time try and play small, post real bets, dont worry about cgt or Cannes, not your business. Life is too short for the stress.
actual p/l and thread p/l miles apart Johnny.....thread in danger of getting pulled given how 12 has lost it...one last time try and play small, post real bets, dont worry about cgt or Cannes, not your business. Life is too short for the stress.
12 oak, maybe what ive just said aint what you wanted to hear fella, but im afraid the fact is dharma isnt a fake, just stateing a fact, i have no idea whats going on in this thread but if you read the first page i wished you luck and gave you advice.
all gone a bit nuts since obviously.
12 oak, maybe what ive just said aint what you wanted to hear fella, but im afraid the fact is dharma isnt a fake, just stateing a fact, i have no idea whats going on in this thread but if you read the first page i wished you luck and gave you advice
twelveoak Joined: 28 May 10 Replies: 13 28 May 10 20:12
thanks for your concerns folks re not throwing money away but there is a strategy for this like everything else. gl all.
Fair enough we are all big boys, be lucky.
Was only trying to help? i aint got a clue if dharma lives in frace or not, nor do i care, but as for fake punter
tree wrong barking it up
twelveoak Joined: 28 May 10Replies: 13 28 May 10 20:12 thanks for your concerns folks re not throwing money away but there is a strategy for this like everything else. gl all. Fair enough we are all big boys, be lucky. Was only trying to help? i
Good luck today 12....Just in case you are interested I live in the Central District of Suffolk (Ipswich)pay tax and go to a Thomson Hotel in Majorca for 2 weeks every July my pin number is 5633 and I bank with Lloyds TSB. Ohh and today it is overcast just in case you are doubting me
Good luck today 12....Just in case you are interested I live in the Central District of Suffolk (Ipswich)pay tax and go to a Thomson Hotel in Majorca for 2 weeks every July my pin number is 5633 and I bank with Lloyds TSB. Ohh and today it is overcas
Well done twelveoak - you have the fool running around in circles.
dharma:This is definitely my final post!!! (11.38)twelveoak - can you not read? (11.57)12 - do you know Cannes at all??? (12.01)Well done twelveoak - you have the fool running around in circles.
Well done twelveoak. As there are a max 40 posts per page, you should get £200 each time this thread goes round onto a new page. That should top up your bank nicely. Just don't land on any of those expensive Cannes hotels, and you'll be ok.
Well done twelveoak. As there are a max 40 posts per page, you should get £200 each time this thread goes round onto a new page. That should top up your bank nicely. Just don't land on any of those expensive Cannes hotels, and you'll be ok
funny that the only 2 things you have pulled me up for - the size of my bets, and where my holiday home is, are the only two things that are actually indisputable....
Here is just one of the statements that proved you to be fake 12oak:
First of all on the thread you referred to "fellow pros" indicating that you were a professional punter.
Later in the thread you said you will get back to what you know best - pubs etc....
What are you? A "pro" punter or not??? I think we all know the answer. IF you are a pro-punter, you are pretty bloody awful at it, given you lost your whole bank in a single afternoon....
funny that the only 2 things you have pulled me up for - the size of my bets, and where my holiday home is, are the only two things that are actually indisputable....Here is just one of the statements that proved you to be fake 12oak:First of all on
buzzer Joined: 05 Jun 04 Replies: 5678 29 May 10 11:40 You'll be the greatest ever if you can make 10% a day every day you play. I notice you don't deduct commission and you haven't said what happens if you go 10% behind for the day, just carry on until bank is 0? twelveoak Joined: 28 May 10 Replies: 309 29 May 10 11:50 hi buzzer. commission obviously comes into the equation and there are also methods to deal with bank at any stage of the day. i,m never winning or losing at any stage of the day as its the end of the day that counts. gl with your trade/bets today. buzzer Joined: 05 Jun 04 Replies: 5678 29 May 10 11:54 a slight contradiction there twelveoak, if you are 2k down with one race to go and need/want to win your 10% you'd have to stake accordingly! You should look, if you must, at a potential monthly target then you may last a little longer. Good luck with your venture. hearts1874 Joined: 27 Feb 10 Replies: 1323 29 May 10 11:57 no loss talk on this thread please positive vibes only !!!
Happy twelveoak Joined: 28 May 10 Replies: 309 29 May 10 12:02 buzzer, the challenge is for a particular amount each day. as in life not all challenges are met on a daily basis. some days we miss our goals, other days we exceed them. the key as you,ve probably heard alot of times is discipline and not going on tilt but your right we all have to be careful in murky waters and protect the bank at all times.if your comments are constructive then fair shout but as hearts said lets try and keep it positive. good luck today.
Nobody likes to see anyone do their nuts if real money is down but you stated i didn't offer anything until you were losing, when i did offer advice pre chase you explained you had plans in place and your discipline was fine but from the start you only achieved your 'target' through chasing from early on! Many get into the mindset, as you can see from your supporters on this very thread, that chasing is fine and it'll work out but we all know chasing leads to one conclusion whether it's today, tomorrow or next month! You need a staking plan that suits your temperament to win and you need to adhere to it. The thing that concerns me is so many people want you to continue as you are because you have a 'good strike rate' in their words, those are the very people that enjoy seeing car crash threads not the people that warned you how it would all inevitably end. Good luck twelveoak but as overseas states you should start small and attempt to build to see if you're cut out for this but as we all know the thread wont get the same attention then and perhaps that's what you crave
buzzer Joined: 05 Jun 04Replies: 5678 29 May 10 11:40 You'll be the greatest ever if you can make 10% a day every day you play. I notice you don't deduct commission and you haven't said what happens if you go 10% behind for the day, j
excellent points Buzzer....dont think its far to compare like for like...but I found winning long term is purely down to money management/staking plan. I lay 99% of the time and obviously to make that pay have to be selective. Won a lot last year and then found the first 4 mths of this year dire due to overstaking on bad horses in poor races. Happy to play now with a small daily bank and play 3 or 4 races and then enjoy the day.
excellent points Buzzer....dont think its far to compare like for like...but I found winning long term is purely down to money management/staking plan. I lay 99% of the time and obviously to make that pay have to be selective. Won a lot last year a
said the other day in the thread "i,m not at home" then in the same breath said "must dash,lingfield about to start" another ****ing wannabe?
keep taking the medication buzzer?
this the same guy that supported union jacks laying alan keytes thread then turned on him as well when he could,nt be bothered anymore.
buzzer - what skill is there in laying the naps boys?if there all right day after day what do you do?increase your stakes? (martingaling/chasing)nice....to....see....you....have....learned......how.....to......type properly.......you muppet, another
i think you have me mixed up with someone else twelveoak. The only person i've seen who opposes the naps boys is zipper on general betting, you wouldn't know that though would you as you've never posted on the forums before and were only warned what they were like by a 'friend' of yours! Good luck for the future and remember you need an excellent memory to carry out acts of deceit [:D]
i think you have me mixed up with someone else twelveoak. The only person i've seen who opposes the naps boys is zipper on general betting, you wouldn't know that though would you as you've never posted on the forums before and were on
said the other day in the thread "i,m not at home" then in the same breath said "must dash,lingfield about to start" another ****ing wannabe?
you are upset aren't you! Do you have to be at home to know Lingfield's about to start? Have you heard of trading rooms and the like. Calm down, you either made the bets up and are embarrassed or you've done your bol0x by chasing like a c unt, either way you need to calm down and put it down to experience
said the other day in the thread "i,m not at home" then in the same breath said "must dash,lingfield about to start" another ****ing wannabe?you are upset aren't you! Do you have to be at home to know Lingfield's about to start? Have you he
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions races and heritage handicaps. This **** can be an expensive hobby so its your own responsability to be as professional as you can about it. I'm tryin to build a bank of 1500 for a university registration fee. currently on 360. Long way to go. Once got up to 600 on here and blew the lot in 2 days.
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions r
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions races and heritage handicaps. This **** can be an expensive hobby so its your own responsability to be as professional as you can about it. I'm tryin to build a bank of 1500 for a university registration fee. currently on 360. Long way to go. Once got up to 600 on here and blew the lot in 2 days.
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions r
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions races and heritage handicaps. This **** can be an expensive hobby so its your own responsability to be as professional as you can about it. I'm tryin to build a bank of 1500 for a university registration fee. currently on 360. Long way to go. Once got up to 600 on here and blew the lot in 2 days.
One bet or one lay a day is the way forward,especially if you're not fulltime and can only look into a couple of races a day in depth. If you have to play big do it when you have a bit of inside information or in pattern races, good conditions r
You usually only see threads like this involving several of the deadly sins on the Poker thread. Only this one gets cameo appearances by that repellent and slimy toad mfraudy.
Truly marvellous entertainment. "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy"
You usually only see threads like this involving several of the deadly sins on the Poker thread. Only this one gets cameo appearances by that repellent and slimy toad mfraudy.Truly marvellous entertainment. "He's not the messiah, he's a v
twelveoak the only thing you done wrong imo you diddent stick to your original plan make £500 a day you be still posting and the idiots rubbishing you would be quite betting is about discipline wich you need badily on the day it went pear shaped you was up over £1000 ? why carry on any way lesson learnt i hope 4 you all the best in the future dont worry about the muppets rubbishing you they couldent keep a thread going as long as you did
twelveoak the only thing you done wrong imo you diddent stick to your original plan make £500 a day you be still posting and the idiots rubbishing you would be quite betting is about discipline wich you need badily on the day it went pear shaped you
thats ireland smartie im too poor to buy it and too rich to be given it, I've been messing around with d gees since I was about thirteen but there has been too much boom and bust in the intervening 8 years, Last autumn I decided to get serious about it, For example I had a large bet on Big Bucks at 8's when he won his first WH but I also once had an equally large bet on sixties icon in the prince of wales because Frankie was up and noseda said he was showing more speed in his work, and mainly cos I was bored and greedy. to this day it is the bet im most embarassed about. How can someone reconcile those two decisions? I'm now very serious about every bet I place
thats ireland smartie im too poor to buy it and too rich to be given it, I've been messing around with d gees since I was about thirteen but there has been too much boom and bust in the intervening 8 years, Last autumn I decided to get serious a
seriously Sixties Icon over 1m2f sends a shiver down my spine every year since when i watch the prince of wales stakes, I still remember willie carson saying after the race that murtagh had told him the night before in the carpark that the Duke was the best horse in the yard, I't wasn't his fault I lost but i still wanted to kill the aftertiming bastard
seriously Sixties Icon over 1m2f sends a shiver down my spine every year since when i watch the prince of wales stakes, I still remember willie carson saying after the race that murtagh had told him the night before in the carpark that the Duke was t
No, just stay calm. As long as you have a clear strategy, I have confidence that in the long run I will win. Dont chase unless you want to dodge bullets and ride the storm.
No, just stay calm. As long as you have a clear strategy, I have confidence that in the long run I will win. Dont chase unless you want to dodge bullets and ride the storm.
fair comment, i have read previously about systems/staking plans can only work if done to level stakes, no martingaling etc but what i dont understand is that all of us experience losing runs. whats the worst run you,ve had in relation to loses i.e. have you ever had 6 losing bets in a row and wiped out 30% of your bank and if so how do you recover from that?
fair comment, i have read previously about systems/staking plans can only work if done to level stakes, no martingaling etc but what i dont understand is that all of us experience losing runs. whats the worst run you,ve had in relation to loses i.e.
Sorry 12, did type a reply but failed to hit the system. I use a daily bank so would need 20 losers to wipe me out in a daily sense. As mainly a layer, my longest losing run is about 3 or 4. To survive in the long term you have to play the slow game and build slowly...GL
Sorry 12, did type a reply but failed to hit the system. I use a daily bank so would need 20 losers to wipe me out in a daily sense. As mainly a layer, my longest losing run is about 3 or 4. To survive in the long term you have to play the slow ga
thank you overseas, my preference is also to lay, infact when i used to paper trade before going live on hear most days i could very easily be 10% up on bank on any given day.thank you for your thoughts.
thank you overseas, my preference is also to lay, infact when i used to paper trade before going live on hear most days i could very easily be 10% up on bank on any given day.thank you for your thoughts.
12, I thought we had a sensible chat about staking et al....but its obviously just pure fantasy.....15K grand lays...you cant post the bet, so why bother saying such. Hopefully all will be ok.
12, I thought we had a sensible chat about staking et al....but its obviously just pure fantasy.....15K grand lays...you cant post the bet, so why bother saying such. Hopefully all will be ok.
yeah i know overseas but i had a definate nod things were not well with this today. hope you caught the message in time mate.
seriously cant see mull of dubai in first 4.
gl all today.
yeah i know overseas but i had a definate nod things were not well with this today. hope you caught the message in time mate.seriously cant see mull of dubai in first 4.gl all today.
u scrimped and saved for years to get 5k....u blew that and then the mrs blew u......a few days later uve go 40k in your account.........did u get 5 number up in the lottery on wednesday?
u scrimped and saved for years to get 5k....u blew that and then the mrs blew u......a few days later uve go 40k in your account.........did u get 5 number up in the lottery on wednesday?
10k ...now laughable beyond belief.....12, you should always check the graph before posting your fantasy bet....1300 odd matched at evens a place btw..so that would be 650 of actual money.
10k ...now laughable beyond belief.....12, you should always check the graph before posting your fantasy bet....1300 odd matched at evens a place btw..so that would be 650 of actual money.
please concentrate on the advice i give out here instead of trawling the graphs etc and asking for bets to be posted etc.
now start behaving and make yourself some money.
bet 4 - win
p/l so far today = £20000
bet 5 - win bet £5000 stake coasting 2.55 sandown
gl
boomplease concentrate on the advice i give out here instead of trawling the graphs etc and asking for bets to be posted etc.now start behaving and make yourself some money.bet 4 - winp/l so far today = £20000bet 5 - win bet £5000 stake coasting 2.