usaidits having a break but carry on regardless thread

those handicaps are the ones that make it down to luck

i am fixated by it, dunno why but its becoming a crusade, i dont play the lotto, never done the pools, most of my gambling these days is done to a rigid set of rules that have served me well in poker, the Scoop6 is a million miles away from these rules yet I still do it when the pot is decent

fair enough but it doesn't surrender itself to form study imo

lot of pure luck involved-but i would say that,I can't pick two winners in a row nevermind 6

i suppose its like online poker verus live games, you can make as much these days without ever having to sit down with actual humans, but then only a very few will see wot you have done

York Result
13 May 2010
« 4:20 » Stratford Place Stud For Royal Ascot 2Yos E B F Maiden Stakes
(Class 3) (2yo) 6f Good To Firm
£7,123.60, £2,119.70, £1,059.30, £529.10
WATCH RACE - 20p
RESULT
RATE RACE
Show all comments in running Show all pedigrees
      HORSE/SP AGE WGT TRAINER/JOCKEY OR TS RPR   
 
1
6   Elzaam (AUS) 2/1F  2 9-3  M A Jarvis  — * * 
b c Redoute's Choice (AUS) - Mambo In Freeport (USA) (Kingmambo) Richard Hills
  Made all, stayed on strongly final 2f, pushed out, readily (tchd 5-1 in places)   
 
2
12  1¼  Sir Reginald 9/1  2 9-3  R A Fahey  — * * 
b c Compton Place - Clincher Club (Polish Patriot) Paul Hanagan
  Hampered start, tracked leaders, went close 2nd over 2f out, kept on well inside final furlong (tchd 12-1 in a place)   
 
3
1  2  Rerouted (USA) 6/1  2 9-3  B W Hills  — * * 
ch c Stormy Atlantic (USA) - Rouwaki (USA) (Miswaki) Michael Hills
  Dwelt, soon chasing leaders, kept on same pace approaching final furlong (tchd 8-1 in a place)   
 
« 4
17  2¼  Rojo Boy 20/1  2 9-3  A M Balding  — * * 
gr c Red Ransom (USA) - Way To The Stars (Dansili) Jimmy Fortune
  Chased leaders towards stands' side, stayed on same pace final 2f (op 18-1)   
 
5
8  5  Jibaal (IRE) 18/1  2 9-3  M Johnston  — * * 
b c Acclamation - Maid To Order (IRE) (Zafonic) Joe Fanning
  Chased leaders, driven and outpaced 3f out, kept on final furlong (op 20-1)   
 
6
2  3½  Tinkertown (IRE) 12/1  2 9-3  P F I Cole  — * * 
gr c Verglas (IRE) - Kelly Nicole (IRE) (Rainbow Quest) Jamie Spencer
  Chased leaders far side, hung badly right and lost place over 2f out, kept on final furlong   
 
« 7
14  ½  Juliet Capulet (IRE) 5/1  2 8-12  A P O'Brien  — * * 
b f Holy Roman Emperor (IRE) - Royal Ballerina (IRE) (Sadler's Wells) J Murtagh
  Chased leaders, weakened over 1f out (tchd 9-2)   
 
8
9  ½  Mariachi Man 50/1  2 9-3  T D Easterby  — * * 
b c Haafhd - Popocatepetl (FR) (Nashwan) David Allan
  Started very slowly, green and hung left over 2f out, stayed on over 1f out, will improve (op 66-1)   
 
« 9
11  ½  Bonjour Bongee 100/1  2 9-3  A J McCabe  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Bond Babe (Forzando) James Doyle
  In rear, kept on final 2f, never near leaders   
 
« 10
15  1  Comrade Bond 18/1  2 9-3  M H Tompkins  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Eurolink Cafe (Grand Lodge) Darryll Holland
  Chased leaders, weakened 2f out (op 16-1)   
 
11
7  ¾  Move In Time 33/1  2 9-3  B Smart  — * * 
ch c Monsieur Bond (IRE) - Tibesti (Machiavellian) Tom Eaves
  Slowly into stride, headway and hung left over 2f out, never on terms   
 
12
3  1  Market Maker (IRE) 66/1  2 9-3  T D Easterby  — * * 
ch c Trade Fair - Papier Mache (IRE) (Desert Prince) Graham Gibbons
  Dwelt, mid-division, lost place over 2f out   
 
« 13
4  ½  Dreamweaving (IRE) 25/1  2 8-12  N Tinkler  — * * 
b f Sleeping Indian - Wicked (Common Grounds) Silvestre De Sousa
  Chased leaders, lost place over 2f out (op 20-1)   
 
14
5  4  Windward Islands 9/1  2 9-3  Mahmood Al Zarooni  — * * 
ch c Cadeaux Genereux - Dominica (Alhaarth) Frankie Dettori
  Chased leaders, lost place over 1f out (op 8-1)   
 
« 15
10  9  Scatty (IRE) 28/1  2 9-3  S Kirk  — * * 
br c Verglas (IRE) - Nonsense (IRE) (Soviet Star) Stephen Craine
  Soon driven along in rear, behind final 3f (op 25-1)   
 
16
13  18  Little Oddy (IRE) 100/1  2 9-0  M A Barnes  — * * 
b c Refuse To Bend (IRE) - Archipova (IRE) (Ela-Mana-Mou) Andrew Heffernan3
  Slowly into stride, reminders after start, soon well behind, tailed off   
 

16 ran TIME 1m 11.43s (slow by 0.83s


I think this is the best maiden run this season looking at the standard time yesterday it was slow by 0.83 the first three all making btheir debuts over the 6fs,earlier the two sprints won by a 95 and 97 rated horses were slow by 0.05 and 0.18 but over a furlong shorter using the comparisons on all races this season it bares that out.The first three in the 2 yr old maiden would go near standard time on there next runs and although its not a great way of comparing times over different distances it would give them ratings of near 100,i've back tracked through most of the better 2yr old races run so far this season and this race definitely comes out on top.
The form does look solid with another 5ls back to the 5th jibaal from the 4th rojo boy,the 6th tinkertown was another 3 1/2ls back in 6th
beaten a total of 14ls by the winner but both jibaal and tinkertown relatively expensive purchases.Juliet the o'brien horse had come out of what looked a reasonable maiden and had experience but ws still beaten 14 1/2ls.
Elzaam 280,000 euros,sir reginald 75,000 gns half brother to four winners including henrik and rerouted half brother to three winners including critical moment must be wining races,hopefully the york form will be underestimated and they might go off decent prices in what will probably be races like the coventry etc.

ELZAAM
SIR REGINALD
REROUTED



thegiggilo Joined: 04 Aug 07
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Just wrote that bit to make it sound better dave,the time was the most important thing.

David Fishwick Minibus Sales Joined: 16 Mar 10
Replies: 2836 16 May 10 02:21   
fair enough. i think plenty would have noted it already though.

Brodie Joined: 20 Oct 08
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Bed beckons, seeya later lads.

David Fishwick Minibus Sales Joined: 16 Mar 10
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Adios

thegiggilo Joined: 04 Aug 07
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16:00 Newbury, 14 May 2010
6f 8y


Berkshire County Blind Society Maiden Stakes (Div 2) (Class 4)  (2YO only)
Winner £4,209 - 12 ran

Good to Firm



Weighed In

Result
NEW: Future Form
Pos Dist. Silk Cloth / Horse Name (Draw) SP Age / Wt Jockey / Trainer OR
1    10. Strong Suit (USA) (10) 6/4 Fav 2 9 - 3 R Hughes
R Hannon
-
  tracked leaders and always going well, chalenged when shied away from rival whip 2f out, quickened to lead over 1f out, shaken up and edged left when in command inside final furlong
2  1¼  5. Neebras (IRE) (5) 25/1 2 9 - 3 Dane O'Neill
D R Lanigan
-
  mid-division, headway towards far side over 2f out, chased winner 1f out, staying on same pace and well held when carried slightly left inside final furlong
3  6  2. Formosina (IRE) (13) 5/1 2 9 - 3 R L Moore
J Noseda
-
  chased leaders, effort 2f out, ridden over 1f out, outpaced by leading duo inside final furlong
4  2  9. Straight Line (IRE) (12) 4/1 2Fav 2 9 - 3 R Kingscote
A P Jarvis
-
  slight lead, pushed along halfway, headed over 1f out, one pace and well held when hung left inside final furlong
5  6  4. Major Conquest (IRE) (9) 25/1 2 9 - 3 S Drowne
J W Hills
-
  mid-division, headway over 1f out, stayed on same pace and no impression final furlong
6  1¾  6. Presto Volante (IRE) (1) 33/1 2 9 - 3 A Kirby
Mrs A J Perrett
-
  slowly into stride, green and soon pushed along in rear, headway halfway, ridden 2f out, stayed on one pace final furlong
7  ½  3. Indigo Way (4) 16/1 2 9 - 3 E Ahern
B J Meehan
-
  in touch, ridden and one pace final 2f
8  1½  7. Ree's Rascal (IRE) (2) 66/1 2 9 - 3 P Cosgrave
J R Boyle
-
  pressed leader, pushed along and every chance over 2f out, weakened over 1f out
9  ½  13. Silken Thoughts (6) 100/1 2 8 - 12 I Milickova
John Berry
-
  started slowly, green and soon pushed along in rear, no progress final 2f
10  2  11. Tarjeyh (IRE) (7) 7/1 2 9 - 3 R Hills
M P Tregoning
-
  keen, chased leaders, well there over 2f out, weakened well over 1f out
11  6  8. Shostakovich (IRE) (8) 10/1 2 9 - 3 G Baker
S Kirk
-
  dwelt, took keen hold in mid-division, behind over 2f out
12  dist  12. Bournefree (IRE) (11) 100/1 2 8 - 9 P Hills (3)
S Kirk
-
  started slowly, outpaced and always in rear, tailed off
     1. Capaill Liath (IRE) (3)  Non Runner -
   

Off Time: 16:01:23
Winning Time: 1m 12.73


After waiting ages for some outstanding 2 yr olds within 2 days comes another in the shape of strong suit and neeebras,the york race won by elzaam was the strongest and quickest formlines seen this season till one day later produced by these two.
The time was 1.12.73 only .67 slower than angels pursuit rated 111 beating society rock rated 107 earlier on the card again these two look to be heading to group races,just to back up the times on the card the other maiden div 1 won by memen was 2.21 seconds slower than that of the second division.Memen had already run and been beaten 4 1/2 ls by todays winner klammer that performance itself looked half decent the formlines of that newbury race and the time produced would suggest that these two are on paralell with elzaam if not better.These two races have been miles infront of anything produced so far,these two infact could be and are likely to be the strongest formlines so far this season,infact the latter looks even better than the formlines produced by elzaam.

Has the fight started lads?

Might go and rick the telly up in the control room here - getting tired now.  Rosario drew 0-0 - easy to say it now but could have laid Velez at as low as 1.58 - this for a team that haven't won away in yonks. 

Never stop learning and you will become wise one day I suppose.....

I've backed khan to win at 1.17-going to trade asap

Don't forget to note them!!

Drew

I think there is a fight before the khan one

have you received an email from me?

i wouldnt bother trading, this guy wont win bar a fluke.

Cheers Giggs, i have them noted. Will watch the race in the morning.

feck it i am too tired, i will email u in the morning usaidit, i have to get some sleep

Got it Usaidit

Will try to sign up tomorrow - do you have to join via FB?

no Drew,nothing to do with facebook

if the boxers gloves touch the floor it has to be treated as a knockdown I thought

that ortiz would give khan all kinds of problems

greened out for pennies-khan will have to work for this one[:o]

morning all,just finished 9am to 430 19.5 hours

  Good morning guys. Just signed into your site using facebook Usaidit - I reckon you'll all get to see what I get up to on there. I'm always using it as I know a lot of peeps personally.

Good luck with the site mate & continued good luck on here fellahs. I begin my full marathon training this week - destination Rome, Italy, March 2011 (hopefully). 

good morning

Hello       

hello sammy

Hi pedro.
Did you really get 4 winners out of 6. I was preening myself on getting 2 tbh.

yes i did sammy,but i did pick 2 per race

afters all

Wd indeed. I picked two as well. You and I can follow instructions.

hello usaidit

afters pedro

did you get your email?

yes,but cant get into site,says site not found

that's odd

I just switched browsers,got it now
Had to change from Mozilla to Chrome

could be a favs day today at Ripon imo,except for 3.10 where I think Misplaced Fortune has a good chance

will you be trading the tennis pedro?

the odds on the mens final looks wrong to me

No i am not,havent looked at final tbh

afters all

310 ripon ELUSIVE SUE win lay

can't access your site yet usaidit,as i have non of those id sites,may have to use my daughters facebook and go in that way.

Is that just a cover up lester cos you are really a girl

lester did you get a message from noreply from the site?

yabbbbbbbbbbbbbadabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbadooooooooooooooooooooo

wd pedro

3/3 is good enough for one day

well done pedro

yes usaidit,clicked on link,got site up with you pedro and stevo the snowman on it,but when you go to sign in,it goes to a id site,facebook,twitter,google etc

I signed in on my aol username

sign in with yahoo lester

2nd that time,but traded sub 2.0

unlucky pedro

done it now,went through daughters,msn windows

channon horse is a NR

wd again pedro

4/5

well done pedrocast on a roll

2 day roll after yesterdays fantastic effort

thanks chaps
Trying to get to grips with this flat racing malarkey

5/6

that is it for me now.
Just got to see what placepot pays,sweet fa i expect

Had 1 line @ £2 paid £33

better than a kick in the ghoulies mate

wd

yes very true.
I dont usually do it,but for £2 it was a bit of fun

Evening lads

Just woke up now - never slept like that in a while and wok in a few minutes.  Will have a tear in my eye if England go on to win the cricket.  Collingwood an old friend/adversary and nobody in world sport as self effacing.

Catch up later lads

Deciding matches in Argentina tonight.  I expect both teams that need to win both will.  Huracan have players in dispute/on strike and Argentinos are on fire anyway.  Colon look to have given up in recent weeks and Estudiantes are simply the best team in the league.

Only the magnitude of winning will stop an away double....

evening all

good evening, wd engerland on winning your hittyball match

hello FD
i havent been watching it,not interested in cricket

i dont watch it much, just decided to lay England @ 1.2 expecting the usual capitulation which never came which is just not cricket imo

lol
howzzzzzat imo of course

Pedro you any early thought on the Derby?

No mate I haven't

not really got a hand on it yet but cant help thinking the 3.00 on SNA in the Ante market is very short, was thinking of laying a chunk

Tbh I have had a sneak at it,SNA is far too short,to be fair I dont think its that good!!

i dont usual bother ante post, but how much shorter can it get?

the worry is that obrien hasnt had it at its best yet this year

Books have it @ 9/4

If it runs I really like Elusive Pimpernel,and Midas

is EP a 12f horse? i am not sure it is, but i dont know that

looking at the prices i cant see that it will be running tbh

I will wait until the night before,then make the decision,
what you think of Midas Touch?

its profile looks better to me and its ran well so far but its Obriens horse, so why all the dough for SNA, the one that half interests me is Zeitoper, I know Circumvent ran horribly at york and ****ed the form a bit but the ground was surely the problem there,  I am positive the trip will see improvement in this brother to Eastern Anthem

You know considerably more than me about flat racing,so I will glean as much info from you as possible

i dont know that much mate, dont let me put you off, were as everything was easy this time last year i am pretty confused this year to be honest, straws are being clutched at but there is no way i could back SNA on what its done @ that price, which makes me want to lay it, then lay it some more

I agree 100% on laying it,like you say its too short.
Lets hope we are lucky boys

Evening lads

Green on Argentinos as only 1 goal up.  Estudiantes winning 4-0, got 2.1 and they were playing no-hopers, best bet I've placed in a while and helpful when it is a winner.

Engerland Engerland Engerland......imo :D

Good evening drew and wd

FD and Drew-don't forget to email me etc

Thanks Pedro

And congratulations on what appears to have been a great weekend for you.

Going to really miss this Argie league - richest seam I have mined on here.  Only 2 more shifts to do then all gravy.  If they both win I will celebrate in style tomorrow night - maybe with a bottle of the Barolo FD was talking about last night, but it won't beat Suinzano imo...

will do usaidit, yeh pedro wd, you have been on fire, wot did everyone think of the scoop attempt btw?

A good effort imo FD - all we need is about 100k behind us and we could take on HF and all be on the ML in a few weeks.

I'll get me hair cut and have a shave!!!

I thought the scoop picks was an excellent format,really liked it.
I liked the way it highlighted the hardest race,I expect we all realised it anyway when we were picking,but yes very enjoyable

yeh i thought it went pretty well, i think it can help with everyone and i know it made me go back a look at certain horses i had ruled out, we do need 2 picks each though becsue we are working from such a small sample, i am up for doing it again next week if everyone is ok with that?

yes definitely

Don't do this often - but boooooooom!

yes,I'll do it again FD while you are in charge

not sure if 2 picks from me would be any better contribution wise but I'll try

Good evening all, had a shocker of 2nds on the US so stopped betting for the evening..  I will play the Scoop 6 next weekend..       we did really well IMO..   

May be worth playing some 3 / 4 folds next week ..   

Some nice priced winners..

Was nice to be part of it..  hope all good on this nice and pleasent thread

talking of threads-new thread up in 2 minutes

nice and pleasant? i suppose it is, where is the fish btw?

Which fish FD?

probably dumping old copies of the morning star into the paper recycling box

Salmon Spray, our guide and mentor

Ahh I see ..         going to go now ..   good luck for tomorrow all..    catch up soon

cheers kirty

morning giggsy

The day has just begun.

anything interesting?

Hello Lester/Giggolo

Having a go at US while quiet at work.
Anything sorted for tomorrow yet Lester?  Thinking of following you as you embark on your winning streak!!

morning drew,am normally quite good,but have had 5 winners on the thread,not the position i was hoping to be in,
but good luck and i will try my best to win you some money

Victor the predictor says that Beautiful Jen will win race 8 at Emerald

Thants good enough for me, full bank LOL

Lester leave your addy anything interesting i'll send something,won't leave anything on forums anymore.