New Posts For Thread: Hoiles or Holthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holtListening to Simon Holt in the 2.30 I was reminded how simple and accurate his commentary is. Nowadays I'd prefer him to Richard Hoiles who always seemed to think he was paid by the word - too often trying to analyse a race while it's going on. KeepTalking of irritating tics, I was watching a live stream on here from Wolves the other night where Shouty was on duty. Free from Sky ads, watching on BF you get the race caller chuntering a bit before the off. In the middle of his musings, there washttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565543125#565543125Talking of irritating tics, I was watching a live stream on here from Wolves the other night where Shouty was on duty. Free from Sky ads, watching on BF you get the race caller chuntering a bit before the off. In the middle of his musings, there wasWed, 19 Aug 2026 11:49:35 -0500Howes the best imop. Rarely mentions the betting, doesn't try to predict what will happen, and just tells what's happening.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565543063#565543063Howes the best imop. Rarely mentions the betting, doesn't try to predict what will happen, and just tells what's happening.Wed, 19 Aug 2026 11:30:33 -0500there is nobody now that stands out as having a unique quality that elevates them above the rest, but for just accurate plain language, free from hyperbole and irritating "tics", Alan Howes is the man. Like a good referee in football, when they do thhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565543031#565543031there is nobody now that stands out as having a unique quality that elevates them above the rest, but for just accurate plain language, free from hyperbole and irritating "tics", Alan Howes is the man. Like a good referee in football, when they do thWed, 19 Aug 2026 11:18:53 -0500some of the later years been less enjoyable, sprinter sacre the impossible dream coming true is a cringe commentary imohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542859#565542859some of the later years been less enjoyable, sprinter sacre the impossible dream coming true is a cringe commentary imoWed, 19 Aug 2026 10:27:05 -0500been some great calls especially late 90s and into the 2000s especially over jumpsistabraq 3rd champion, best mate 3rd CGC, kauto's 4th KG, frankel's guineas...prob up to then when he peakedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542849#565542849been some great calls especially late 90s and into the 2000s especially over jumpsistabraq 3rd champion, best mate 3rd CGC, kauto's 4th KG, frankel's guineas...prob up to then when he peakedWed, 19 Aug 2026 10:25:25 -0500both been top commentators, possibly had their day nowhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542823#565542823both been top commentators, possibly had their day nowWed, 19 Aug 2026 10:17:52 -0500I didn't like Aussie McGrath - it was commentary by cliche (scraping paint, travelling kindly, ....., ad nauseam).Sir Peter is legendary, but his style is outmoded now - people expect more analysis and race reading than simple description. You couldnhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542809#565542809I didn't like Aussie McGrath - it was commentary by cliche (scraping paint, travelling kindly, ....., ad nauseam).Sir Peter is legendary, but his style is outmoded now - people expect more analysis and race reading than simple description. You couldnWed, 19 Aug 2026 10:14:42 -0500Holt every day and twice on a Sunday, hoiles is plain annoyinghttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542773#565542773Holt every day and twice on a Sunday, hoiles is plain annoyingWed, 19 Aug 2026 10:04:54 -0500...in the 436th running of the Upmybarlocks Stakes...reefing and pulling for his headhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542739#565542739...in the 436th running of the Upmybarlocks Stakes...reefing and pulling for his headWed, 19 Aug 2026 09:59:59 -0500i did like him tbh, but until the puns started , bbc mcgrath i enjoyed , and for me the irish one now is the best, bur oh so for Sir PETERhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31909249/hoiles-or-holt?post_id=565542735#565542735i did like him tbh, but until the puns started , bbc mcgrath i enjoyed , and for me the irish one now is the best, bur oh so for Sir PETERWed, 19 Aug 2026 09:59:38 -0500