New Posts For Thread: Bow Echo retiredhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retiredinjuredNobody said Sir Henry "came from nothing". Hardly any top trainer can claim that can they ?In the 70s and 80s in particular he was up against powerful stables such as Stoute, Hern, Harwood, Cumani, Dunlop , Hills etcAll of those trainers had top ownhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533801#565533801Nobody said Sir Henry "came from nothing". Hardly any top trainer can claim that can they ?In the 70s and 80s in particular he was up against powerful stables such as Stoute, Hern, Harwood, Cumani, Dunlop , Hills etcAll of those trainers had top ownThu, 13 Aug 2026 17:08:39 -0500I have never doubted the brilliance of Frankel.Everyone could see from his Guineas win, what a bull he was.It would have been impossible to step him up in trip as a 3 year old.But let's not forget the leg up Cecil got as a trainer. Not doubting his ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533711#565533711I have never doubted the brilliance of Frankel.Everyone could see from his Guineas win, what a bull he was.It would have been impossible to step him up in trip as a 3 year old.But let's not forget the leg up Cecil got as a trainer. Not doubting his aThu, 13 Aug 2026 15:25:56 -0500Thank god that Frankel had the right connections If he'd have had Bow Echo's owners he'd have been packed off to stud after that injury "scare" at the start of his 4 year old career.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533533#565533533Thank god that Frankel had the right connections If he'd have had Bow Echo's owners he'd have been packed off to stud after that injury "scare" at the start of his 4 year old career.Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:54:16 -0500One could rely on Sir Cecil. He'd only nominate one target for his superstar. Also, he'd take no nonsense from his stable jock either. I can still remember he was unhappy that Cauthen did not make the racecourse on time to ride Faustus because his chhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533531#565533531One could rely on Sir Cecil. He'd only nominate one target for his superstar. Also, he'd take no nonsense from his stable jock either. I can still remember he was unhappy that Cauthen did not make the racecourse on time to ride Faustus because his chThu, 13 Aug 2026 12:52:52 -0500You won’t get an argument from me on that post elisjohn You could have added in Henry we trustedhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533509#565533509You won’t get an argument from me on that post elisjohn You could have added in Henry we trustedThu, 13 Aug 2026 12:43:53 -0500i just wish the doubters etc would realise , now what cecil did with frankel was arguebly best training performance ever, to train a head strong colt to win all them races from 2 to 4 years old and up in distance against a very strong juddmonte fieldhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533501#565533501i just wish the doubters etc would realise , now what cecil did with frankel was arguebly best training performance ever, to train a head strong colt to win all them races from 2 to 4 years old and up in distance against a very strong juddmonte fieldThu, 13 Aug 2026 12:41:38 -0500^Yep, they’ll all be at least as good, or may be even better than Bow Echo.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533477#565533477^Yep, they’ll all be at least as good, or may be even better than Bow Echo.Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:27:30 -0500I never knew the executors of the late Sheikh Obaid (owner of Bow Echo and Postponed) and Godolphin were related business-wise. I hope the offspring of Bow Echo could be as good as their old man in the future.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533445#565533445I never knew the executors of the late Sheikh Obaid (owner of Bow Echo and Postponed) and Godolphin were related business-wise. I hope the offspring of Bow Echo could be as good as their old man in the future.Thu, 13 Aug 2026 12:15:59 -0500Is it why Notable Speech is going a York and never was going to face him? Because of this link?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565533045#565533045Is it why Notable Speech is going a York and never was going to face him? Because of this link?Thu, 13 Aug 2026 09:22:18 -0500Obaid owned Zomaradah, mother of Dubawi.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908809/bow-echo-retired?post_id=565532985#565532985Obaid owned Zomaradah, mother of Dubawi.Thu, 13 Aug 2026 08:52:10 -0500