New Posts For Thread: SP Returnshttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returnsMaybe I'm imagining it but recently whenever I watch a race the SP of the winner always seems to be shorter than last show, particularly on a shortie. I understand that the tv channels maybe a little behind but this is when there maybe only two left2.15 Catterick. 3rd fav withdrawn. Last show as the last one went in was the winner 2/1 and second 6/4. Winner returns 7/4 and second 11/8. So they've cut both plus theres a 15p Rule 4 on top of that. Absolute robbery.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565523491#5655234912.15 Catterick. 3rd fav withdrawn. Last show as the last one went in was the winner 2/1 and second 6/4. Winner returns 7/4 and second 11/8. So they've cut both plus theres a 15p Rule 4 on top of that. Absolute robbery.Tue, 04 Aug 2026 08:26:17 -0500Same as the cartoon racing then!Why would anyone bother with Doubles, Trebles, Accas etcBetter off a fun placepothttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565523115#565523115Same as the cartoon racing then!Why would anyone bother with Doubles, Trebles, Accas etcBetter off a fun placepotMon, 03 Aug 2026 15:48:30 -0500As was pointed out on a similar Thread last week -The OFF-Course 'Big Firms' now both Control and RETURN the 'Industry SP.... and the Betting Shows are no longer directly, or rather Solely, from the Racecourse.The consequences, therefore, hardly neehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565523111#565523111As was pointed out on a similar Thread last week -The OFF-Course 'Big Firms' now both Control and RETURN the 'Industry SP.... and the Betting Shows are no longer directly, or rather Solely, from the Racecourse.The consequences, therefore, hardly neeMon, 03 Aug 2026 15:42:28 -0500It's been going on for a long time. I regularly attend Ascot and nearly every winning horse I back, the SP price is shorter than the price I took on track (shortly before the off). It may be weighted bets in shops feeding back to the ISP is biased tohttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522959#565522959It's been going on for a long time. I regularly attend Ascot and nearly every winning horse I back, the SP price is shorter than the price I took on track (shortly before the off). It may be weighted bets in shops feeding back to the ISP is biased toMon, 03 Aug 2026 12:10:58 -0500No matter where we watch the live prices they could be different. Racing TV, a bookies or b356 for example. They aren’t all gonna be showing the same price for every horse.Fair point. Livenka 4/5 on Racing TV with two to be loaded returns 4/6.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522893#565522893No matter where we watch the live prices they could be different. Racing TV, a bookies or b356 for example. They aren’t all gonna be showing the same price for every horse.Fair point. Livenka 4/5 on Racing TV with two to be loaded returns 4/6.Mon, 03 Aug 2026 10:53:25 -0500I think this has been going on for a long time.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522719#565522719I think this has been going on for a long time.Mon, 03 Aug 2026 09:25:08 -0500the fact the bookies accepted the new regime for SP returns probably tells us all we need to know.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522701#565522701the fact the bookies accepted the new regime for SP returns probably tells us all we need to know.Mon, 03 Aug 2026 09:08:09 -0500No matter where we watch the live prices they could be different. Racing TV, a bookies or b356 for example. They aren’t all gonna be showing the same price for every horse.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522657#565522657No matter where we watch the live prices they could be different. Racing TV, a bookies or b356 for example. They aren’t all gonna be showing the same price for every horse.Mon, 03 Aug 2026 08:43:55 -0500always the very late money that finds the winner.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522645#565522645always the very late money that finds the winner.Mon, 03 Aug 2026 08:40:42 -0500Maybe I'm imagining it but recently whenever I watch a race the SP of the winner always seems to be shorter than last show, particularly on a shortie. I understand that the tv channels maybe a little behind but this is when there maybe only two lefthttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31908369/sp-returns?post_id=565522625#565522625Maybe I'm imagining it but recently whenever I watch a race the SP of the winner always seems to be shorter than last show, particularly on a shortie. I understand that the tv channels maybe a little behind but this is when there maybe only two leftMon, 03 Aug 2026 08:33:22 -0500