New Posts For Thread: Flat winners penalised over hurdles in Irelandhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-irelandSeems rather harsh imo as it's a different discipline.I don't know how long this has been the case for but I noticed one the other day, and interestingly today in the opener at Kilbeggan, it doesn't actually state that Earthwatch is in effect penalisYes fair enough,different race conditions.I can remember a time when the fillies allowance on the flat was almost invariably 3lbs and there was no allowance at all over jumps. Bumpers didn't exist in GB only in Ireland where they were confined to amahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508093#565508093Yes fair enough,different race conditions.I can remember a time when the fillies allowance on the flat was almost invariably 3lbs and there was no allowance at all over jumps. Bumpers didn't exist in GB only in Ireland where they were confined to amaFri, 24 Jul 2026 05:46:06 -0500Nothing to do with the rules SS, just the race conditions and not just flat winners, applies also to bumpers and PTP and fillies also get the 7lb allowance in addition. The race is 4yo only but in 4yo+ they would get an age allowance, 5lb I think andhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508061#565508061Nothing to do with the rules SS, just the race conditions and not just flat winners, applies also to bumpers and PTP and fillies also get the 7lb allowance in addition. The race is 4yo only but in 4yo+ they would get an age allowance, 5lb I think andFri, 24 Jul 2026 05:25:38 -0500Different jurisdiction. Different rules.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508015#565508015Different jurisdiction. Different rules.Fri, 24 Jul 2026 04:48:22 -0500But that applies to both GB & Ire, Flat winners aren't penalised over jumps in GB.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508007#565508007But that applies to both GB & Ire, Flat winners aren't penalised over jumps in GB.Fri, 24 Jul 2026 04:44:26 -0500Similar logic to not allowing flat runners to compete in "bumpers"https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508005#565508005Similar logic to not allowing flat runners to compete in "bumpers"Fri, 24 Jul 2026 04:41:50 -0500Seems rather harsh imo as it's a different discipline.I don't know how long this has been the case for but I noticed one the other day, and interestingly today in the opener at Kilbeggan, it doesn't actually state that Earthwatch is in effect penalishttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31907535/flat-winners-penalised-over-hurdles-in-ireland?post_id=565508001#565508001Seems rather harsh imo as it's a different discipline.I don't know how long this has been the case for but I noticed one the other day, and interestingly today in the opener at Kilbeggan, it doesn't actually state that Earthwatch is in effect penalisFri, 24 Jul 2026 04:38:49 -0500