New Posts For Thread: French 2000 Guineashttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineasSome fascinating facts from a recently published articleApologies yes Le Havre I get you ;) Premiums eligible YesEBF Eligible YesI’m not sure what or how that’d impact his stallion fee as a Derby winner though, you know more than that than me.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565367623#565367623Apologies yes Le Havre I get you ;) Premiums eligible YesEBF Eligible YesI’m not sure what or how that’d impact his stallion fee as a Derby winner though, you know more than that than me.Wed, 13 May 2026 02:29:34 -0500AOB : from SL “What was the best Derby winner we ever had? I would say it was Galileo. And he proved to be probably one of the greatest stallions ever. That's what Epsom does. It's very tough, but you will get the blood that you really want going fhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565367607#565367607AOB : from SL “What was the best Derby winner we ever had? I would say it was Galileo. And he proved to be probably one of the greatest stallions ever. That's what Epsom does. It's very tough, but you will get the blood that you really want going fWed, 13 May 2026 02:12:13 -0500I understand your viewpoint but it is more likely that he’d send him to run against a Group 1 winner in Hawk Mountain?He’s had the speed to win over a G1 mile @ 2 and the Jockey Club suits horses who have that sort of speed who can stay the 10 1/https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565367605#565367605I understand your viewpoint but it is more likely that he’d send him to run against a Group 1 winner in Hawk Mountain?He’s had the speed to win over a G1 mile @ 2 and the Jockey Club suits horses who have that sort of speed who can stay the 10 1/Wed, 13 May 2026 02:03:40 -0500The two that stood out at Chester (best trials / form so far) were Ben C and Con R. As such, I cannot foresee Ben C running against Con R prior to Epsom unless fate intervenes eg Ben C is unavailable for Epsom. Then AOB would probably take a chance ahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366275#565366275The two that stood out at Chester (best trials / form so far) were Ben C and Con R. As such, I cannot foresee Ben C running against Con R prior to Epsom unless fate intervenes eg Ben C is unavailable for Epsom. Then AOB would probably take a chance aTue, 12 May 2026 07:53:34 -0500To who or what especially Sage going forwards what are you thinking?https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366179#565366179To who or what especially Sage going forwards what are you thinking?Tue, 12 May 2026 06:53:37 -0500Very wet in Paris on Sunday so the form may not be worth much.https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366159#565366159Very wet in Paris on Sunday so the form may not be worth much.Tue, 12 May 2026 06:37:34 -0500Cheers impossible for giving your thoughts, I agree what you say about the Dante and it’s not a race that AOB targets with his bullets, I see Godolphin have 3 in there. I’m not sure that Constitution would have ran over 12f first time up, only rahttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366157#565366157Cheers impossible for giving your thoughts, I agree what you say about the Dante and it’s not a race that AOB targets with his bullets, I see Godolphin have 3 in there. I’m not sure that Constitution would have ran over 12f first time up, only raTue, 12 May 2026 06:37:05 -0500Personally I'd put Hawk Mountain before Ben and PB. Constitution River showed good acceleration, but that was over 10f. Nevertheless, I think we've seen the Epsom Derby winner at Chester. I do not think The Dante result will be as significant for Thehttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366113#565366113Personally I'd put Hawk Mountain before Ben and PB. Constitution River showed good acceleration, but that was over 10f. Nevertheless, I think we've seen the Epsom Derby winner at Chester. I do not think The Dante result will be as significant for TheTue, 12 May 2026 05:44:27 -0500We’ll see impossible, the past record of Dee Stakes winners is uninspiring but as I showed only one went to the Jockey Club in 2018 when Saxon Warrior was 4/5f for Epsom.Ben is no short priced fav like him. Mr Colonel who Ben beat at Chester albeithttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366035#565366035We’ll see impossible, the past record of Dee Stakes winners is uninspiring but as I showed only one went to the Jockey Club in 2018 when Saxon Warrior was 4/5f for Epsom.Ben is no short priced fav like him. Mr Colonel who Ben beat at Chester albeitTue, 12 May 2026 04:10:02 -0500I think Constitution River would opt for the French Derby instead for the sole reason the race is over 10f. He might go for the Irish equivalent. Also, AOB has others for Epsom eg Benvenuto Cellini,Christmas Day, Action, etc. I also think Pierre Bonnhttps://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31901415/french-2000-guineas?post_id=565366021#565366021I think Constitution River would opt for the French Derby instead for the sole reason the race is over 10f. He might go for the Irish equivalent. Also, AOB has others for Epsom eg Benvenuto Cellini,Christmas Day, Action, etc. I also think Pierre BonnTue, 12 May 2026 03:52:14 -0500